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#1 2004-03-03 04:43:15

cassioli
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From: Italy
Registered: 2004-02-23
Posts: 218

Re: Creating 3d animations - Can you do it with this pogram?

I found a very interesting program, Stereomorpher:
[http://www3.zero.ad.jp/esuto/stphmkr/index_e.htm]http://www3.zero.ad.jp/esuto/stphmkr/index_e.htm
EDIT: WRONG LINK!
This is the right one:
[http://wmiller.topcities.com/program_eng.html]http://wmiller.topcities.com/program_eng.html


It allows creating images like this, starting from common stereo pairs:
test2.gif

Using Mars images, we could obtain astonishing images! Any volunteers? smile Using this program is quite difficult...

Luca

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#2 2004-03-04 13:28:01

Rxke
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From: Belgium
Registered: 2003-11-03
Posts: 3,669

Re: Creating 3d animations - Can you do it with this pogram?

Looks great! I've seen it used on Mars pics, linked on the Slashdot site, a while ago, so some people use it... And it was really nice...

Too bad i don't run Windows... Have only an ancient mac that runs MacOS9 and Debian (GNU/Linux)

Ive been thinking about this: all the pictures Spirit (and Opportunity) takes, while travelling... Could these not be rendered into a movie? Since these are mostly stereopairs, you should (in theory) be able to create a very detailed 3D map of the surroundings, and use the pictures as a color overlay (skins/textures) ...

But i guess that is *A LOT* of number crunching... if possible at all...

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#3 2004-03-05 05:05:03

atomoid
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From: Santa Cruz, CA
Registered: 2004-02-13
Posts: 252

Re: Creating 3d animations - Can you do it with this pogram?

I found a very interesting program, Stereomorpher:
[http://www3.zero.ad.jp/esuto/stphmkr/index_e.htm]http://www3.zero.ad.jp/esuto/stphmkr/index_e.htm

Using Mars images, we could obtain astonishing images! Any volunteers? smile Using this program is quite difficult...

Luca

Are you talking about "[http://www3.zero.ad.jp/esuto/stphmkr/index_e.htm]StereoPhoto Maker Ver2.12"?  its got some great features for stereo viewing and merging, but i tried all the options and it wont create images like the daisy animation, and it doesnt even save GIF files anyway...

you must be talking about [http://wmiller.topcities.com/program_eng.html]this $600 program which generates in-between pictures, thats pretty cool but unfortunately very pricey stuff...at least its free to try [http://www.stereoart.ru/zip/demo-stereomorpher.zip]the demo version (but thanks for hipping me to "StereoPhoto Maker Ver2.12 anyway")

I tried the demo and its a pretty utilitarian peice of software, definately made by some algorithm gearheads, not much attention has been given to the interface, or bugfixes for that matter... i tried the default and tutorial settings and just get all sorts of "couldnt load dx bitmap" errors dialogs and botched loop throw dangles and loosed threads run amok, the interface is a nightmare indeed, so far nothing to show for it but lost time... though its curious that it somehow hasnt managed to actually crash yet...


"I think it would be a good idea". - [url=http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Mahatma_Gandhi/]Mahatma Gandhi[/url], when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

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#4 2004-03-05 06:51:21

cassioli
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From: Italy
Registered: 2004-02-23
Posts: 218

Re: Creating 3d animations - Can you do it with this pogram?

I found a very interesting program, Stereomorpher:
[http://www3.zero.ad.jp/esuto/stphmkr/index_e.htm]http://www3.zero.ad.jp/esuto/stphmkr/index_e.htm

Using Mars images, we could obtain astonishing images! Any volunteers? smile Using this program is quite difficult...

Luca

Are you talking about "[http://www3.zero.ad.jp/esuto/stphmkr/index_e.htm]StereoPhoto Maker Ver2.12"?  its got some great features for stereo viewing and merging, but i tried all the options and it wont create images like the daisy animation, and it doesnt even save GIF files anyway...

you must be talking about [http://wmiller.topcities.com/program_eng.html]this $600 program which generates in-between pictures, thats pretty cool but unfortunately very pricey stuff...

Ops.. it looks like I did a nice link mixing!  tongue
Sorry about it...
Anyway, I "successfully" created "in-between"  pictures with the demo... but I did it without reading all the manual  big_smile , so I obtained absurd results.... completely unuseful.
Maybe I can obtain best results after reading the manual.
Then, to obtain an animation, I could use bmp2avi (if it supports BMP, and if I find again the link to bmp2avi...   ???  )

i tried the default and tutorial settings and just get all sorts of "couldnt load dx bitmap" errors dialogs and botched loop throw dangles and loosed threads run amok, the interface is a nightmare indeed, so far nothing to show for it but lost time... though its curious that it somehow hasnt managed to actually crash yet...

So do I... before reading the manual!
Doing so, I discovered I must press a button to start a process from inside every "tag" of the program, before proceeding to the next tab.
Boring&complex, but, if it works...
Still testing, anyway.

Luca

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#5 2004-03-05 10:33:38

saidias
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From: mars.systemsfirst.com
Registered: 2004-03-05
Posts: 3

Re: Creating 3d animations - Can you do it with this pogram?

Check out my website.  I have hundreds of B&W Anaglyphs, and the ONLY color 3D Anaglyphs on the net!  I update the site several times a day as new images come down.

[http://mars.systemsfirst.com]http://mars.systemsfirst.com

Let me know what you think!

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#6 2004-03-05 21:45:10

atomoid
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From: Santa Cruz, CA
Registered: 2004-02-13
Posts: 252

Re: Creating 3d animations - Can you do it with this pogram?

Check out my website.  I have hundreds of B&W Anaglyphs, and the ONLY color 3D Anaglyphs on the net!  I update the site several times a day as new images come down.

[http://mars.systemsfirst.com]http://mars.systemsfirst.com

Let me know what you think!

I think i saw your link on the Maestro site, and checked it out, your MIL is a nice site, with a unique user-friendly look and feel and good repository of information for general mars observers. Since your asking, here's some friendly criticism: my biggest complaint is that the images load painfully slow (maybe your server provider's fault) and design-wise its not as easy as lyle.org or even the NASA site, to browse the raw images since you need to load separate pages under each sol instance and little nits and picks like that. but i appreciate it and check it out every so often... is your site scripted to automatically pull everything down to your servers, or do you hand do most of it?

Congrats and thanks on supplying the COLOR 3D ANAGYPHS they are really really cool (i cant figure out why anyone else hasn't been making them, myself included)!

I was going to work out some kind of scripted autogeneration of the anaglyphs and panorama mosaics for my own mars site (which i ended up never making, i just dont have enough quality time to invest since i spend way too much time noodling over little details) and what really put the nail in the coffin was when i found the lyle.org site which was already doing an excellent job with the automated anaglyphs and had a very convenient fast browse methodology figured out (but they really need some breadcrumbs for their image browsing session schema), i still havent seen any automatic panorama mosaic generation, maybe its pretty tricky, i thought the filename scheme would allow automation of all this stuff to be easy.  Although i hate to admit it, its still much better than my own proposed implementation would have been...
So my current all-time favorites sites for my type of use (heavy on the anaglyph and raw image browsing/comparing) are:

  [http://www.lyle.org/mars/][http://www.lyle.org]www.lyle.org ("almost" perfect browsing schema and fast)
  [http://www.marsunearthed.com/OMIndex/Ma … sIndex.htm]Mars Unearthed (very nicely calibrated anaglyphs, but theyre only grayscale!)


"I think it would be a good idea". - [url=http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Mahatma_Gandhi/]Mahatma Gandhi[/url], when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

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