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#51 2026-02-04 22:42:10
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Re: Greenland
I will call this video "Interesting": https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … &FORM=VIRE Quote:
'Trump defeated Europe over Greenland. Now Starmer will fall'
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I will view it another time.
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#52 2026-05-13 18:40:54
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Re: Greenland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpbLN0TYYMU
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NATO & Greenland Deal May Come Soon For Trump
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I think that for the security issues this is just about right for all three major parties of the issue.
Scandinavia and North America apparently have been swapping genes for perhaps 1000 years.
There is native American genes in Iceland, and it is not proven but there is some evidence that the Greenlanders may have made a deposit on the mainland.
I think that this could be just enough and not too much mingling. After all even if NATO goes away, Greenland and the Danes may want some assistance from the USA under some circumstances.
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#53 2026-05-13 20:44:02
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Re: Greenland
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For Void re unfinished post ...I may have accidentally opened a post while you were still working on it ...
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 06#p239306
Please add an explanation for why anyone would want to spend valuable time following a YouTube link you have provided.
Most YouTube links are NOT worth anyone's time.
The link you have provided may be an exception to the rule, but our readers will not have any way of knowing.
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It is important. I was so glad to see that North America and Scandinavia, were able to achieve the beginnings of a mutual accommodation.
You may or may not recall that I mentioned that I am half Swedish, by genetics, and half of that is actually Norwegian.
Although I want North America protected by bases in Greenland, I do not want to see that heritage distorted in it's own land. I feel similar about the Inuit.
I am very pleased that possibly protections can be installed without causing major cultural discomforts. Down the road, I am guessing this may work out very well for the 3 major participants.
Have you noticed that I have not risen to your bait?
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#54 2026-05-24 13:07:36
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Re: Greenland
Perhaps this is worth the trouble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NrJaMGWOGc
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DNA Just Proved Vikings Lived In America For 350 Years — Not One Voyage
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Remember Columbus spent time in Iceland before traveling to America.
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Christopher Columbus’s Time in Iceland
Historical accounts and Icelandic oral tradition suggest that Christopher Columbus visited Iceland during the winter of 1477–1478, staying at a farm called Ingjaldshóll (also spelled Ingjaldsholl) in the western region of the country, near the Snaefellsnes Peninsula and Breida Fjord The European Conservative+1.The Visit
According to Icelandic roots and local lore, Columbus likely arrived in the early autumn of 1477 and remained through the winter, leaving in late spring The European Conservative. He stayed at Ingjaldshóll, an abandoned farm now owned by the Icelandic government, and is said to have learned from the local people about Viking expeditions to Vinland (North America) centuries earlier www.icelandicroots.com. This included stories of Leif Eriksson’s 1000 AD landing at L’Anse aux Meadows, Newfoundland, as well as later Norse voyages to the east coast of North America for trade and resources The European Conservative+1.Historical Evidence
While there is no definitive documentary proof, Columbus himself mentioned the visit in his journals and in a 1495 letter to King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain The European Conservative. The Ingjaldshóll church, built in 1903, still contains a painting of Columbus and a local priest studying a map, reinforcing the local tradition www.icelandicroots.com.Significance
Some historians, like Kirk Johnson, argue that this Icelandic experience may have influenced Columbus’s confidence in finding land “across the ocean blue” when he set sail in 1492 The European Conservative. The stories of Norse exploration could have reinforced his belief that a westward sea route to the East Indies was possible.Legacy
Today, the Ingjaldshóll site is part of Iceland’s cultural heritage, and the Snæfellsnes Peninsula remains a popular destination for visitors interested in both Viking history and the legend of Columbus’s visit www.icelandicroots.com.In summary: While the exact details remain debated, the most widely accepted account is that Columbus spent a winter in Iceland in 1477–1478, learning about Viking voyages to North America, which may have shaped his later transatlantic expeditions.
The Viking era transitioned into Christianity. The need for Rome to be the center of the world, (I call it the Green City), conflicted with North and Western European deviation from such an anchoring. (In my opinion).
The fracture of the western church (In my opinion) was in part due to the churches desire to be the center of the world if Jerusalem could not be held, and the fact that Rome is not the center of the world.
So, there is an incentive to downgrade anything that North and Western Europeans might have had to offer.
I can speculate that an example of this is the creation of the concept of "Hispanic", created by a French person I believe. Clever people. This creates an ethnic identity which is separable from North and Western European identities. Created no-doubt to make it harder for Mexicans and Americans to get along. In reality, Mexicans being part Spanish and Native American, makes them quite compatible with Median type European Americans. Anyway, I like Gods jokes. They are quite good.
I think that the reason that the Vikings did not make a large population in North America is that their population growth rate was not very much at that time, and they did not carry many deadly diseases that they could have transmitted to North America.
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#55 Yesterday 18:54:36
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Re: Greenland
Well Well. I think we need to have some love for Denmark and Greenland, and make things better for them if we can.
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … 32b2f9ef1a Quote:
Trump Just Turned His WILDEST PROMISE Into REALITY!
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/18/us/p … nland.html
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U.S. Has Reached Security Deal on Greenland, Trump Says
The full contours of the deal were unclear, but Denmark and Greenland both indicated they expected an agreement to be signed soon.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/09/1 … t-01084764
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US and Denmark reach new agreement on defense and investment in Greenland
The agreement is expected to be signed next week at the U.N.
What I know of it seems good for all parties.
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#56 Yesterday 19:17:02
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So could Greenland export melt water by tanker, all the way down to the Texas/Mexican border maybe and places in between.
Could such even be capable of submarine travel? In which case they might navigate under the Arctic Ocean down to California/Mexico?
Long shot? Probably but still fresh water floats in salt water is a good factor.
Of course I am expecting the exporters to get some $$$.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait
90 Meters deep. The water tanker would have to go under the Ice pack. Maybe Russia would if Canada would not.
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#57 Yesterday 19:48:55
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Re: Greenland
Fresh water typically sells for about $2 per cubic metre. That is about $0.3/barrel.
https://ukwaterbills.co.uk/calculator
I think it highly unlikely that it could be shipped by tanker without greatly exceeding that price. Small costs would matter when shipping something as low value as that. Water has about 1/300 the value of oil at present prices.
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#58 Yesterday 20:56:52
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Well, you probably win that one, but I had to try.
Still, maybe someday ride a cold current south with fresh water, submerged, and a warm current north. But yes not good enough.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Atlant … /Hydrology
However, I will note that many "Fossil" aquifers are being drained dry, so the replacement is either by shipping or desalinization. Without water a lot of places lose value.
But yes it is an uphill battle.
But this comparison is a bit better, perhaps:
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Desalination of seawater is generally expensive, with costs ranging from $0.40 to $3.00 per cubic meter depending on technology, scale, and energy efficiency.
Overview of Costs
Desalination involves removing salts and impurities from seawater to produce potable water, primarily using Reverse Osmosis (RO) or Multi-Stage Flash (MSF) distillation. Large-scale modern RO plants can produce water at $0.40–$0.80 per cubic meter, which is competitive in water-stressed regions, but still higher than conventional freshwater sources, which often cost $0.10–$0.50 per cubic meter
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. Small-scale systems, such as those for islands or resorts, incur higher per-unit costs due to reduced economies of scale
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Energy Consumption: RO systems require 2.5–6 kWh per cubic meter, with energy accounting for 40–50% of operational costs. Thermal methods like MSF consume even more energy, up to 25 kWh/m³
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. Energy recovery devices can reduce costs, but energy remains the largest ongoing expense
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Capital Expenditure (CapEx): Building a desalination plant requires substantial investment, often hundreds of millions to over a billion dollars for large facilities
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Maintenance and Materials: Membrane replacement, chemical usage, and routine maintenance add to operational costs. Modern membranes last 5–7 years, reducing replacement frequency
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Brine Disposal: Concentrated brine must be managed carefully to avoid environmental harm, adding to operational complexity and cost
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Economic Context
While desalination is expensive compared to conventional water sources, it is increasingly viable in regions facing water scarcity, such as the Middle East, parts of Asia-Pacific, and coastal cities like Dubai and Singapore
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. Subsidies are often used to make desalinated water affordable, but reliance on subsidies raises long-term sustainability concerns
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Desalination is resource-intensive and costly, primarily due to energy demands, infrastructure investment, and maintenance. However, advances in RO technology, energy recovery, and modular plant design have reduced costs significantly, making it a practical solution in water-stressed regions despite being more expensive than traditional freshwater sources
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No, actually, your number was perhaps generous.
Oh well, I lose this one.
But we did get Greenland, sort of, not really.
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