New Mars Forums
You are not logged in.
- Topics: Active | Unanswered
Announcement
Pages: 1
#1 2026-01-06 06:47:15
- Void
- Member
- Registered: 2011-12-29
- Posts: 9,156
Greenland
A possible solution is to sell some of Greenland as for American National Interests. Some money to Greenlanders, some to Denmark.
Let Denmark keep some of it for a price to be paid to the Greenlanders They may want some national parks, perhaps some monuments per the extinct Vikings.
Let the Greenlanders, establish their own state on what is left over. And they may rent additional land that they choose to other actors.
The Greenlanders will be reasonably wealthy, and the Danes will not have to support them.
An agreement to keep out other actors who may be hostile to North America and possibly South America. Currently Russian and China.
No Soup for them! That is no hosting of hostile bases from other than the USA and Denmark and the Greenlanders.
I think that this could be satisfactory to America, Denmark, and the Greenlanders.
Monroe Doctrine reasonably satisfied as well.
Ending Pending 
Last edited by Void (2026-01-06 06:53:31)
Is it possible that the root of political science claims is to produce white collar jobs for people who paid for an education and do not want a real job?
Offline
Like button can go here
#2 2026-01-06 22:59:38
- kbd512
- Administrator
- Registered: 2015-01-02
- Posts: 8,422
Re: Greenland
Void,
The only thing we're really interested in doing with Greenland at the end of the day is keeping it out of Russian and Chinese hands while capitalizing on the resources there, instead of leaving them in the ground where they don't help anyone. America has finally stopped allowing proxies to dictate terms to us. We don't need to continue playing stupid games that result in everyone winning stupid prizes.
Offline
Like button can go here
#3 2026-01-07 08:02:53
- tahanson43206
- Moderator
- Registered: 2018-04-27
- Posts: 23,826
Re: Greenland
Void, there are some who seem to think that talk about Greenland is intended as a distraction from real objectives.
Since you have created this topic, it does provide a place to put updates that might appear in the news from time to time.
Of particular interest (to me for sure) would be updates on actual changes that might well occur, in contrast to words that might be intended to confuse friends and foe alike.
For example, it seems reasonable to imagine that Denmark will take the situation seriously and make changes to improve the resilience of Greenland. Likewise, it is possible that the people who live in Greenland (native and imported) will take actions to try to improve their ability to remain independent of any of the major powers that might well be interested in moving onto their land.
Greenland is unlikely to be on the front pages of news outlets, so this topic of yours might be a way for us (and forum readers) to keep up with developments.
(th)
Offline
Like button can go here
#4 2026-01-07 11:04:53
- kbd512
- Administrator
- Registered: 2015-01-02
- Posts: 8,422
Re: Greenland
It would appear that Denmark and the EU are now ready to send ships and troops to defend Greenland. Problem solved without America having to devote more of our own troops and money to doing what Denmark always should have been doing themselves as a real functional NATO ally. Deeds, not words. Talk is cheap. Mounting a credible defense against an attack never is.
This was posted today:
Denmark, Greenland seek Rubio meeting after Trump remarks
Showing up is half the battle. When you actually show up and put in the work, both your allies and enemies take notice. Paying lip service to the idea of defending Greenland is no longer sufficient. When we station our military forces somewhere, it's not merely for sake of appearances. We will use it, if need be. Deterrence works much better when your enemies know, in no uncertain terms, that hostile actions will beget immediate overwhelming consequences. Men like Vladimir Putin and Xi Xinping only respect real routinely demonstrated military power. Whether or not our liberals are squeamish about that, or wish to complain that every last dime of public money isn't going to their favorite government handout program, they only sleep soundly in their beds at night because we're both willing and able to fight and win against all adversaries.
Offline
Like button can go here
#5 2026-01-07 11:40:58
- tahanson43206
- Moderator
- Registered: 2018-04-27
- Posts: 23,826
Re: Greenland
For Void .... please keep this topic updated, if you have and if the topic is of long term interest to you.
It appears that you will have at least two readers who will be following this topic.
I would be particularly interested to see if Denmark and Greenland (and others?) actually DO anything.
I would ask you to refrain from editorializing about citizens of the United States. We have enough of that going on.
Please try to keep this topic focused upon Greenland.
(th)
Offline
Like button can go here
#6 2026-01-07 17:31:31
- RobertDyck
- Moderator
- From: Winnipeg, Canada
- Registered: 2002-08-20
- Posts: 8,353
- Website
Re: Greenland
There is already a US military base on Greenland. If the US wants to build more, they will be allowed. So there is no security issue.
Trump claimed Greenland is surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships. That's typical Trump bullshit. There are no such ships.
If American companies want to operate on Greenland, they are welcome to. That's not an issue either.
The only issue is Trump and certain American billionaires want the resources on Greenland. They don't want to be restricted by Greenland regulations or pay Greenland taxes or fees. I don't know what regulations, taxes or fees there are, but that's what this is really about.
Diamonds, rare earth elements, graphite, zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, copper, titanium, vanadium, tungsten, molybdenum, and uranium, crucial for green tech and high-tech industries, alongside offshore oil and gas.
Oh! Found this. Mineral rights already purchased.
Offline
Like button can go here
#7 2026-01-07 20:53:02
- Void
- Member
- Registered: 2011-12-29
- Posts: 9,156
Re: Greenland
(th), I will delete any text which may offend the membership. I will try to be reasonable and polit.
kdb512, yes if the Frenchie's want to shack up with Danes, in Greenland, that is better than a Greenland that could be taken over by what we consider to be a potential bad actor.
RobertDyck, that is very rational. I am glad that you don't approach this emotionally.
As it happens, I have some book leaning about Greenland from when I was much younger.
If a balance of interests is to be negotiated, lets first consider the Innuit. Their old lifestyle was to move North and South with the Climate, in pursuit of animals to feed on. But now, of course they are probably being both enriched and damaged by contact with the outside world.
The Norse in Greenland took the most northern form of farming economy to the few best places in Greenland, and when the arrived, the Innuit were more further up North. The soils were not yet damaged. The climate cooled, and the soils were damaged, and they might have been inbred. Not sure about the inbreeding. The Innuit moved south and apparently there was some conflict. The Norse were extremely weakened, and so by some path or another have no recognized descendants, although some may have gone to Iceland. Iceland itself, dropped severely in population.
I would want to push for 1 or more bases that the USA actually owns. To be paid for into a Sovern wealth fund for the benefit of the Innuit and European inhabitants of Greenland. I don't want to continue to lease, as I want it firmly understood that we are not to be pushed out.
Now if the Europeans want to negotiate similar, I have no problem with that.
Europeans will be at a disadvantage, as the Arctic Ocean is Ethnographically of the Pacific Ocean, not the North Atlantic. The Heritage of the Romans does not do well in Asia. But if they want to be there, then fine.
NATO is perhaps something that we could modify and not eliminate. But there are deep suspicions that the children of Rome are trying to get the USA and Russia to have a nuclear war. The USA requires a clause that says that if Europe goes into a bar and starts a fight, we are not going to their defense and will not feel obligated to.
A Possible reality, not confirmed:
Since Chernobyl apparently does not cause the endless mutations that were feared, unfortunately I suspect that the Elites of Europe including the royalty and American of the like of aspirations, have this green dream that the population can be culled down to 1 billon or less people. We cannot tolerate their idiocy. They may think that they can afford a plush bunker to ride it out. If they succeed the war types will probably pull them out of their bunkers for revenge and to loot.
Americans are getting trust issues with the ruling classes of Europe and their lackeys here in America. Canada is sort of British/French, with some likeness to America and with pseudo-Asiatic peoples who they generally try to ignore.
I would like us to withdraw from NATO if we cannot find that the ruling classes of Europe are responsible people. We do not want them dragging use into another stupid European war.
The Europeans as we call them are Roman Heritage. The line of Cities Dublin, London Paris, Rome, Athens, (Egypt).
You must be able to see that they do NOT work well with Poland or Hungary, Etc. That is because the Romans never could go into Asia successfully. The Greeks could at one time. So the "European Culture" is not suited to rule North America, as we are of Asia, Europe, and Africa. It often does not work well, but so far we manage well enough to want to continue and to not become subordinate to the "Roman Europeans".
There are trust issues.
Ending Pending
Last edited by Void (2026-01-07 22:11:51)
Is it possible that the root of political science claims is to produce white collar jobs for people who paid for an education and do not want a real job?
Offline
Like button can go here
#8 2026-01-07 22:10:56
- kbd512
- Administrator
- Registered: 2015-01-02
- Posts: 8,422
Re: Greenland
Greenland Courts China in Snub to Trump
Greenland's foreign minister has said it is seeking deeper cooperation with China and potentially a free trade agreement, according to Chinese state news agency Xinhua.
Is the Polar Silk Road a Highway or Is It at an Impasse? China's Arctic Policy Seven Years On
Offline
Like button can go here
#9 2026-01-11 10:02:33
- Void
- Member
- Registered: 2011-12-29
- Posts: 9,156
Re: Greenland
I will make an exception here, as I consider Greenland to be part of my heritage, perhaps distantly but still I have a connection to it.
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … df39541c77 Quote:
Ancient DNA Shows Vikings Were in America Much Longer Than We Thought!
YouTube
History Diary
51.9K views
Although my brother is 1/2 Swedish by family rumor., of that about half of it is Norwegian. I know that my Grandmother was from very close to Norway.
So, the Norse probably thought of the western settlements as being similar to the lands of Eurasia, that the Vikings also went into. Except that you could travel more by sea than by interior rivers.
The wood remnants and tar from North America seems tin indicate much more Viking activity in the west than was thought.
Indigenous genes from North America in the Greenlanders is an interesting find. I wonder if some of it got to Iceland? Iceland has some Denisovan genetic materials. Perhaps it came from North America?
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-ev … ry-0013617
Quote:
The Far-Reaching Realms of Denisovan Ancestry Stretch to Iceland
Quote:
3.3%
Recent genetic studies have revealed that Icelanders possess a significant amount of Denisovan ancestry, approximately 3.3% of their genome. This ancestry is believed to have originated from Neanderthals, with possible additional contributions from Denisovans. The findings suggest that past interactions between the ancestors of Icelanders and either Neanderthals carrying Denisovan DNA or Neanderthals and Denisovans separately occurred, indicating that Icelanders may have inherited Denisovan genes from ancient populations.
Ancient Origins
+2
Someday, I would like to retrieve genes from the remains of the Greenlanders, and also the Dorset peoples, and to actually create children from them to include into our expansions into space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorset_culture
It is common for human females to transfer into other families or groups, when they become fertile. I think we suffer some problems from not allowing it so early now. It may mess up girls to be kept as children so long in their birth families. I do understand why we delay that sort of thing now though, as humans may continue to evolve, puberty in girls may become more and more delayed.
But I think the most probable instance of a Native American going to Greenland with Vikings would likely be an orphan girl.
But perhaps they could also recruit an adult male Native American with skills.
I will be curious about the "Y" and Mitochondrial genes in the Greenlanders.
By the way Columbus spent a winter in Iceland before sailing to the Americas, probably consulting their records.
https://europeanconservative.com/articl … o-america/
Quote:
How Columbus’s Winter in Iceland Helped Him Get to America
But I will mostly try to avoid politics here now.
Ending Pending
I will say that if Europe breaks up we might consider an Arctic Ocean community including North America, the Nordics, and Russia.
If the Polar Sea is to melt more, we might as well use if until the climate can freeze it again.
Ending Pending
It is my suspicion that Scotland and North Ireland, are in Ethnographically Pacific waters, and that England, Wales and the rest of Ireland are in the Latin realm.
I believe that the injection of Latin associated genes modified the Americas so that there is a similar crossing point in Eastern Canida.
Ending Pending
Last edited by Void (2026-01-11 10:42:51)
Is it possible that the root of political science claims is to produce white collar jobs for people who paid for an education and do not want a real job?
Offline
Like button can go here
#10 2026-01-11 13:22:44
- Void
- Member
- Registered: 2011-12-29
- Posts: 9,156
Re: Greenland
Here is an addition to the materials of the just prior post: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … 0cb2179c3f Quote:
1,000 Year Old Discovery In Greenland DESTROYS Everything We Knew
YouTube
Lost Evidence
47.2K views
Ending Pending
At least one flaw in the claims. Columbus did know about the Norse in North America. He spent a winter in Iceland studying their documents.
And the Catholic Church collected tithes from Greenland.
Ending Pending
Last edited by Void (2026-01-11 13:28:18)
Is it possible that the root of political science claims is to produce white collar jobs for people who paid for an education and do not want a real job?
Offline
Like button can go here
Pages: 1