You are not logged in.
For RobertDyck re post about civilizations in Google meeting:
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 95#p236395
Thank you for this interesting reminder of the deep history of human evolution over recent millennia!
Thank you for reminders of the hints of history that are preserved in the old testament and to a lesser extent in the new one.
This post is offered to (at least try) to remind you that you offered to show us a list of 9 indicators for the collapse of civilization.
GW Johnson has published a similar list for the United States, but (to my knowledge) that list is distributed to only a few folks.
Please show us where we can find the list you have studied, and from which you remembered several elements.
I have no doubt the United States is at risk of collapse. My only observation is that the United States has ** always ** been on the verge of collapse, although there have been (brief) periods when the conglomeration of people alive at the time managed to get their act together. We are clearly NOT in such a time.
****
As a side note .... I appreciated you and kbd512 reviewing the deterioration of nuclear warheads and delivery systems for them. You will (surely) NOT have failed to notice that the US administration thought it was a good idea to fire the folks who care for our nuclear arsenal .... Whether any of the personnel affected by that order are still on duty is anyone's guess.
An obvious sign of the imminent collapse of a culture is failure to maintain it's weapons.
(th)
Online
Like button can go here
For RobertDyck re new topic!
Thanks for adding the new topic in Civilization, and for the opening sequence of posts with links and (really helpful) commentary.
This new topic should be of interest to most NewMars members, because a strong US is needed to support the Mars venture.
(th)
Online
Like button can go here
For RobertDyck re fighter topic...
One recurring theme that I picked up from Sunday's discussion was the problem of counter-measures for fighter pilots in the modern theater. The munitions that are most likely to be aimed at a fighter are self-guided systems. There is a small chance that pure dumb mass may be thrown at a modern fighter, but by far the more likely threat is from self-guided systems.
As you and your countrymen try to figure out how to defend a huge territory, I'd like to toss into the mix the idea of laser defense systems. These would need to cover 41252 square degrees, so the systems would add mass, but perhaps that mass would be worth the investment.
If the idea occurred to me, it ** must ** have occurred to people who are paid to think about defense against modern weapons.
It would not surprise me at all to learn that serious research has been done in this area.
(th)
Online
Like button can go here
For RobertDyck ... please take your time instead of responding immediately to kbd512's interesting post in the Civilization topic.
I have a book about how we should deal with the situation if civilization does collapse. The possibility that our civilization might collapse has been apparent to thoughtful people for decades.
You are welcome to ask about the book if the subject is of interest.
It is probably available from the public library system in Canada.
Because of your background (which you have described in many posts over nearly 20 years) I think you would handle collapse better than many of us.
Still, it would be stressful even for you, so I hope it doesn't happen.
But it most assuredly ** could ** happen in today's time of immense power and weak brains.
(th)
Online
Like button can go here
For RobertDyck about current topics....
Your initiative about money seems to me to have potential long term value, if you can allow yourself to provide leadership that actually helps to find a solution to a very difficult problem. Money is a short cut to bargaining.
Americans pretend we don't like bargaining, and we definitely save a lot of time by simple setting a price and seeing if people will accept it. If people don't like a price they have the choice here of simply going online or to the next store.
Money is just a high speed mechanism for bargaining. The value of money has to hold long enough to carry out the downstream exchange.
Manipulation of money is something else entirely, and it has been going on for all of recorded history and probably before.
A big stash of gold is about as useless an asset on Mars as the human mind can imagine, but perhaps there is something worse.
***
Your discussion of military equipment to protect Canada in the current period seems vitally important, although it is taking place in a backwater of the Internet where no one besides a very few members will ever take note of it.
You might come up with something that your countrymen would appreciate.
However, the larger picture is how the settlers on Mars will protect themselves from aggression by other humans.
The history of the human race is pretty clear. Aggression is a feature of the biology of humans.
(th)
Online
Like button can go here