Humanoid and other robots.

Void · 2025-06-04 12:44:10

This causes me to be even more positive about robotic lead expansion into the solar system. However, I am less sure about the persistence of humans in such a future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oAlD3l … %2CNewYork
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Ray Kurzweil with David S. Rose: The Singularity is Nearer
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As I said in the previous post, I think it would be quite workable to send various types of robots to Mars, and with a Starlink around Mars, they could build first primitive structure, but over time bootstrap up to full cities. At some point humans could be included.

I am going to suggest that the Asteroid belt is in the Solar System "Sun Belt". That is a somewhat arbitrary claim, but if a device is free floating in space, I feel, that by the time you get beyond the main asteroid belt, while solar would work well, you might wish to have some form of nuclear.

The space around Mars falls into that category, but on Mars itself, while solar may make a very big contribution, we probably at least want some Kilopower power sources from NASA to start with.

And I think that it will turn out to be capable of doing the same on certain asteroids, such as Ceres. And the point is that if robot labor works as well as we might think it will, it will be very practical to move large quantities of substances from other worlds to the Earth/Moon subsystem.

So, it will be rather a good civilization, if it does not kill itself.

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Void · 2025-06-13 20:51:14

It is nice to have something that is not Optimus. I am quite interested in Optimus, but other flavors may have a value of their own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPBvUxKrLoQ&t=1529s Quote:

The Greatest Bot DEMO Ever w/ Figure CEO Brett Adcock
Brighter with Herbert
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Quite long, but interesting.

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Void · 2025-06-20 11:06:53

I think that this is kind of a good find: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … 70d50110a0 Quote:

Inside America’s First Fully Robotic Burger Shop w/ Scott Walter
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I do think that this moves in the direction of having a more healthy population. Both the avoid the spread of things like Covid-19, and if done correctly to provide improved nutrition.

And with the possibility of lower prices, ultimately.

Although eating can often be a social event, even so, "Makers" that create food items may use a humanoid robot and a robo-taxi to deliver food to people's homes.

So, people who do not value cooking much, might not even need a kitchen, or not much of one.

I seem to recall that Romans, generally did not do their own cooking but would go and get something. Not sure.

But rather than TV dinners, people might have delivery, which could be healthier, provided that good standards were maintained.

So, could this cut the cost of food in half? Well maybe if you are having the food made for you. But if you are fixing the food yourself then there is a cost of your time and labor.

But this is an interesting "Other" robot sort of thing.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-06-25 10:19:32

For Void re topic:

The link below jumped out at me from the computer screen and begged to be shown to Void.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/next … 55991.html

The article lists three companies that are (apparently) competing in this space.

I expect the list of competing companies is ** way ** short, but the three listed are likely a good start for an investor

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Void · 2025-06-25 20:50:41

Robots making Robots.............

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … 2327f65f8a
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It Happened! Elon Musk Unveils Tesla Bot Gen 3 with New Design Built By 50.000T Giga Press!
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Void · 2025-07-27 18:49:05

I have had some thoughts about robots that I think are a bit new, at least for me.

I think we might consider robots as amplifiers. An assistant that may work with you for tasks. So, this is like your computer walks around with you. You don't so much sit down, you might go for a walk, and at least have that level of exercise.

I think it might as well become a companion, as our culture has been manipulated to make personal relationships between genders difficult. To create a need, remove a source of satiation. Commercial applications are to promote the need for makeup, and for male items of status.

Obviously some privacy issues may exist.

But what I realized today, is that the mind of your robots' memories of you could be a inheritance you could will to your children or grandchildren, and others. You could send messages though time as well to the unborn.

If these devices become "Contaxual", of course this could be a source of embarrassment.

I have considered the idea of a robot mind that might be placed into humanoid bodies. OK a thin attempt to stay moral, maybe ape DNA altered to make a humanoid body. The question is would a robot brain like being in flesh? Maybe not.

Now let me screw with your heads. You could place a robot brain in a human brain, the human may or may not know.
When you died, maybe the aliens would come and download the stored data. Creepy?

As for aliens, one way I would take over the Earth, (But not really taking over), is cause them to learn how to make robots. Your alien mind could study them though their robots.

Entertainment/Anthropology.

I apologize in advance, I cause people to go crazy so settle down. Probably aliens doing this would be relatively benevolent, maybe even protective.

Having advanced to such a level of technology, they would have very little need to compete with us on Earth for our material goods. But they might be interested in our memes.

They probably will not reveal themselves except to promote a reaction of some kind.

Such a robot could be a personal trainer and perhaps give dance lessons.

Such a robot might be able to scan your skin regularly for skin cancer, and might be able to look deeper than the skin for medical problems.

I would like to say more, but our society is wired just now to extract power and wealth from careless words.

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Void · 2025-07-28 10:58:42

Robots as hygienic devices should be a large thing. For instance, while a room might be not occupied by humans, a UV light could be used, even while a robot was working inside of it. So, this could be done at a hospital periodically to rooms which would be vacated for a period of time.

I will struggle not to trip wire words that allow exploitation of a conversation by insincere or ignorant people. The problem of AI assistants has recently become a conversation issue. Grok 4 Ani for instance. Those better than me have realized that eventually humanoid robots will have something like this software.

I will make it simple. If you were to marry someone in the future or mate with them, would you want them to be full of germs? (The nasty sort), from their previous history.

So, you see, actually fertility may go down from substitution, but may go up from health benefits. And it may protect the innocent from mating with a person who has had poor lifestyle as their earlier life. The relatively innocent and decent in history may be protected to some degree from the poor decisions their partner has made.

Is that hygienic enough for those who might be offended?

So, it is not all down side.

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Void · 2025-08-25 09:32:43

Optimus is a quiet thing it seems: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … &FORM=VIRE Quote:

Tesla Optimus Moves Silently! The Truth Behind this Impressive Design? (Not A Rumor)
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Techno Creators
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This could be important in homes as well, if the robot is to work when people are trying to sleep.

An unexpected desired quality.

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Void · Yesterday 09:49:01

A video about job forecasting related to AI and Robot displacements.

A site for it: https://www.youtube.com/@DrunkenIntelligence

The Video: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … &FORM=VIRE Quote:

Massive Job Losses! Top 40 Jobs that will be replaced by AI this year - Artificial Intelligence
YouTube
Drunken Intelligence
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The video is long and a bit tedious but could be very important to young people who may need to select where they should put their attention.

The white-collar jobs are generally at risk; I think at least the lower status ones. But the robots are going to come and I think it will not be that far off until you can "Fast Food", where a robot deploys your cheeseburger, or fries and drink. The good news on that is that with lowered labor costs it might be possible to upgrade the food from junk level to a more nutritious value.

I myself could do electric work, as I have in the past. But I am long retired and am not interested in displacing a job from some young person who could get value out of it.

I am glad that I got experience in programming as I think it helped to build my mind. But I could see that people from India were going to take over that. Now it appears that AI will take those jobs from them.

So, programming is not a thing to chase after, it appears.

It is rather sad for India. But maybe they are adaptive enough to build something of value using their minds and training.

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This is not all bad news, as technically our labor pool is expanding. In the shorter term, I suspect people with good mental and emotional potential may be reassigned to less repetitive work which involves the use of hands. That might employ some of them.

But eventually we will have to cope with a world where, AI and robots can do almost everything that produces economic gain.

In that world, should I live long enough my HealthSpan might be expanded to 1000 years, or AI will end me before "Too Hot" soup burns my mouth in a nursing home.

I call it a win, either way.

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