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#26 2025-04-18 12:12:18
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Re: Utilizing Superpower (Per Rethink X, Tony Seba)
I think that this might involve solar panels being more of a structural material themselves.
There is no telling how much natural light is needed to signal plants to grow appropriately.
I am hoping for something like 5% maybe. So, although the dome or continuing archway, might be a little bit like a greenhouse, it would be more of a solar power collector.
We can hope that plants will be bioengineered, to work more with Acetate as their energy source.
Of course, if desired, some artificial lighting could also be included instead of windows, so that the plants can be convinced that the season is different than what it is. Again, you might hope that this would be a tiny minority of the energy needed by the plants.
And then this may lead to a question of if it is good to have classical greenhouses on Mars, or to do some alternative such as suggested in this post.
Acetate is supposed to be more efficient than photosynthesis. But plants are not yet adapted as well as needed to use Acetate.
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#27 2025-04-18 17:21:41
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Re: Utilizing Superpower (Per Rethink X, Tony Seba)
I will work on this later. Thanks British! https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topst … r-AA1DaZo3 Quote:
4 billion tons yearly: UK starts sucking carbon from sea with floating solar power
Story by Prabhat Ranjan Mishra • 9h •
2 min read
Obviously this is going to be useful in the canals that I have suggested.
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#28 2025-04-18 20:46:43
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Re: Utilizing Superpower (Per Rethink X, Tony Seba)
Referring to the previous post, not a bad plan, but I think that covered canals such as have been mentioned where Hydrogen would be injected to dissolve in the water, would also absorb CO2 and O2 and N2, from the atmosphere, and along with other nutrients should allow the production of large amounts of biomass.
In some cases, perhaps food from air and energy.
And some setups may be able to extract water from the air at the same time.
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#29 2025-05-04 09:22:16
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Re: Utilizing Superpower (Per Rethink X, Tony Seba)
This is of some interest to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHdUMDV … ithHerbert
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EXCLUSIVE: Tony Seba Predicts AI + Robots Will Change EVERYTHING!
Brighter with Herbert
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#30 2025-05-04 17:18:52
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Re: Utilizing Superpower (Per Rethink X, Tony Seba)
(th) requested that I attempt a summary of the previous posts video. Here is his request: https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 41#p231441
I have only watched it once and did not pick up everything. I will watch it again and see if I can get more details.
However, I can render a preliminary summary. Advancements in technology may allow manipulation of materials in time to create crafted hardware at reduced prices to harvest energy at a lowered cost.
This will involve:
1) Generalized Labor from Humanoid and other robots.
2) Lowered cost of labor will allow for lower cost hardware.
3) Lowered cost hardware may make the concept of "Superpower" justified.
4) Improved AI will make #1 in this list more useful as to have an actual brain.
In the case of solar energy, "Superpower" would be because the cost of hardware will be so low that it will be justified to have so much in the way of solar panel quantity that on the worst day of the year, you would still have enough energy. The "Superpower" then is exhibited the most strongly on your best day of the year.
The utility of "Superpower" is desired, so that there needs to be discovered/created productive method that could use that excess and "Low Cost" power, even if it is intermittent.
My view is that Tony Seba maybe is a little towards having "Elon Time", but I think eventually this will be likely to happen.
Here is the video again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHdUMDV … ithHerbert
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EXCLUSIVE: Tony Seba Predicts Super Abundant Utopia!
Brighter with Herbert
I will try to take notes.
Interesting terms:
-Stellar Energy
-Ignition Points
-Artificial Labor = Robots + AI
-Extractive vs. Stellar
Extractive @ 9.44 (Old)
Stellar @ 16.30 (New)
Overbuilding @ 20.55
Example: Amazon at Christmas (Highest Demand) and then the rest of the year.
Overbuilding for Stellar Energy apparently is the opposite of making very large storage, so that you can even out the energy over a time period. Overbuilding of solar panels, for instance, reduces the amount of energy storage you need.
But then that system will have "Superpower", at times that are not the worst days of winter for instance.
Superpower might be 3, 4, 5 times the worst-case energy harvesting. @ 24.10
So, you design your solar system for the worst week of the year and then get the superpower the rest of the year.
(This presumes that the cost of solar, wind, and batteries will continue to go down to a point that this could be afforded)
26.04 Ignition, Entropy, negative Entropy Moving from Entropy system to Negative Entropy system.
@ 29.00 Stellar Transportation System. Transportation 10-20 times cheaper than now.
@ 32.22, battery recycle, but also improving energy density in batteries. System can heal itself and produce more from what it has.
@34.29 Artificial Labor (Robots +AI) Improving much faster at this time than Moore's law.
@ 38.29 AI Ignition Point (System becomes self-sustaining and self-improving)
Eventual Artificial Labor costs $1.00/hour $0.10/hour or eventually less.
@ 44.00 Cern becomes more involved in the conversation.
Cern asks Tony Seba Questions. I may review this part next:
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@ 52.00 Space
@ 56.27 we will only need 1% of the land, and so perhaps vast areas will be turned back to nature.
@ 57.18 Precision Fermentation
@ 1.02.14 Human reproduction
@ 1.08.35 Economic translation which will have troubles. Inflation of some things. Deflation of others. Job losses.
@ 1.11.29 Economic Hallucinations.
@ 1.13.54 UBI? NO but "Granting Stellar Output Rights"
@ about 1.18.00 "Stellar Core needs to be open source, like internet or highway system"
@ 1.20.18 National debt and deflation, a problem
@ about 1.24.31 Urgent! to build "Stellar Energy System" before economic breakdown.
@ 1.30.50 What are the structures you need for Stellar rather than Extractive?
@ 1.34.37 These changes in the next 10 to 20 years it is said.
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