RobertDyck Postings

tahanson43206 · 2025-01-06 14:51:18

For RobertDyck re Resignation of PM Trudeau...

I'm posting here to avoid inserting my ID into a series you have started.

I read a bit of background in the news feeds from Canada, about the resignation.

Thanks for the detail about the pension and the March action date.

As I read about the problems facing Canada (inflation, housing, health care) I couldn't help thinking that there is no one alive on Earth who could solve those problems for any population, let alone one as large and diverse as Canada.

I'm sure it doesn't help that other Nations are experiencing turmoil at the same time.

Please reply in the Politics topic.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-01-07 08:11:44

For RobertDyck re carbon tax and other causes of discontent....

A reasonable direction for a nation the size of Canada to go is to dramatically ramp up nuclear power. The increase of energy-flow-per-capita should result in an increase of well-being, even if the distribution is uneven.

There are examples from human history. The discovery of oil ultimately led to greater well being for the populations of a number of countries, even though those who could amass fortunes for themselves did so.

Is the conservative leader someone who would lead the Nation in that direction?

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tahanson43206 · 2025-01-28 19:42:48

For RobertDyck ...

Nice to see you back on the board after some time away. Your last communication was about a trip to the wilds of far Canada. I hope the trip went well and the polar bears kept their distance.

In this post: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 23#p229423

you offered a hint that maps might be available showing where useful materials might be found. If you have time, and if the original documents are still available, please add links to the topic.

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The Large Ship is in a hanger right now, where it's been hanging out waiting for you to figure out how to build it.

If you've been away, you may not have noticed that your example has inspired other members to think about rotating transport systems, and everyone seems to be using numbers that come close to the ones you offered years ago.

Something you could actually ** do ** is to persuade a Canadian individual or company to build a rotation training facility as an entertainment with educational value. I spent some time earlier today looking at warehouse sizes, and found that buildings large enough to hold the entire Large Ship habitat exist and in fact, appear to be quite common.

Terraformer found a NASA funded study of rotation training for humans, and GW Johnson has blended that into the papers he is writing. What it says is that humans can definitely learn how to experience rotation. What is not yet established is if humans can tolerate life in a rotating habitat for months or years. Your Large Ship habitat is as good as any to provide a facility to study human capability, right here on Earth/

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tahanson43206 · 2025-02-01 20:35:02

For RobertDyck ...

Your recent posts re-awakened my interest in Canada and Canadians....

The Internet feed tossed this item my way:
https://thewalrus.ca/canada-has-spent-o … wtab-en-us

I read about half and skimmed the rest ... this is a thoughtful review of the history of political systems and of Canada in particular. The article points out the fragility of all political systems.

You very likely know most if not all of this history.

What I'm watching with interest these days is to see how Canadian's deal with the provocations of the current time. The article at the link above mentions previous trials that Canada has survived. Not a few are caused by the neighbor to the South.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-02-02 08:44:09

For RobertDyck re exchange with kbd512...

kbd512 appears to have gotten under your skin...

http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 35#p229535

Please take a few moments to replace emotions with cold hard facts.

If kbd512 has made a factual error, it should be possible to isolate it and refute it.

If kbd512 has offered an opinion that is based upon nothing at all, it should be possible to identify that as well.

There is nothing to refute in that case.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-02-05 12:01:03

For RobertDyck re Large Ship on Pause...

We left off with a pause due to uncertainty about how to build the Large Ship in orbit.

It would be possible to build a full scale working (rotating) mockup of the Large Ship, inside a large warehouse.

I'm interested in seeing you back at work on this important initiative.

Please look for a ware house that is idle at the moment, and large enough to hold the habitat ring, and a track for it to run on.

It seems that we have a number of those in the city where I live. Your city may not be large enough to have one, and in any case it may not be vacant, since such space is valuable, but to try and get you going, please look to see what might be available.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-02-05 16:33:11

For RobertDyck re choosing leadership in one of the few remaining democracies....

All I can do is to offer my best wishes for a solution that the majority of folks can agree upon. The tradition of giving up and adopting a dictator is all too common in human history.

After typing the above, I took a moment to reflect on the fact that no one with dictatorial tendencies in Canada has come to my attention, so that might not happen to your Nation.

One option is to simply keep Trudeau, because he stood up to the bully down South, along with a hefty percentage of fellow Citizens.

This seems to me like a poor time to throw caution to the winds.

These are not normal times.

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Calliban · 2025-02-05 16:49:41

Globalisation (free trade, neoliberal economics) is unwinding, because prosperity is declining. This is leading to beggar-thy-neighbour politics. It isn't the result of one man, it is baked in. It is the inevitable result of fossil fuel energy entering its decline phase and the rising political tensions resulting. The question is not whether Trump or Trudeau are good or bad guys. We all have our own opinions on that. It is 'how do we collectively navigate the decline of fossil energy without unwinding the industrial revolution?' Tariffs between neighbouring NAFTA members will make things worse for everyone involved. But this is predictable in a world where the pie is no longer growing but population continues to grow.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-02-12 07:52:38

For RobertDyck....

If you have a bit of time and the subject is of interest, please follow up on the report in this post:
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 31#p229731

I am skeptical, but hope there is something to this.

The idea of Canada wanting to stick it to Trump is something I think the Spanish reporter added to the mix. I don't think it came from the Canadians themselves. The headline had the effect of drawing in readers, so I suppose it worked in that sense.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-03-08 18:29:09

For RobertDyck re link in Starship is Go topic...

Thanks for the Replay video!

I was amazed how long the Starship held together before failing.

Hopefully sensors were all over the vessel.

The catch at the arms was perfect. I was surprised to see all 33 engines lit for the deceleration burn before the steering trio took over the final maneuvering. I wonder of part of the strategy might have been to burn off propellant so there was as little as possible left before reaching the tower.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-03-14 07:16:43

For RobertDyck re Canadian policy ... threat assessment

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets … 52f0&ei=34

The article at the link above is about a very real possibility that the US might further threaten Canada, including many lesser insults but leading up to a physical invasion. This article seems to me to be unpolitical in nature. It seems (as I read it) to calmly accept that the risk situation has changed dramatically in just a few weeks.

The Internet feed brought up this article after I'd viewed the video suggested by Calliban, showing a greenhouse style condomium/community complex in Canada.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-03-21 19:38:04

For RobertDyck re observation in Starship topic ...

RobertDyck wrote:

Gary, that's scary because resonant frequency of the propellant tanks will change continuously has they are drained. Think slide whistle. Or music on water glasses.

As I read that, I realized that is ** exactly ** what was going on as Starship 7 and 8 drove toward oblivion. During the first several minutes after staging, everything seemed to be fine. Then, in a very short period of time, collapse occurred.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-03-22 20:17:36

For RobertDyck re Canadian citizen shackled...

From everything I've read so far, this was not normal. I did confirm that the lady has returned to Vancouver after that 2 week misadventure. She seems to be an astonishingly patient and forgiving person. In that she seems to fit the expectation we have for Canadians. I understand you would not be so forgiving!

It seems to me that government employees here are taking cues from the present Administration. The release of millions of gallons of water around the time of the Los Angeles fires was a total waste of precious water. Apparently the employees who released the water did not receive an order. They were apparently trying to interpret verbal cues from the present Administration.

Your decision to avoid the risk of travel here seems well advised. It will be many years before the US will again be trusted as it has for many decades.

I do have a question for you .... If Canada were to decide it does not need anything the US has to sell, could it trade with the rest of the world? Can the existing tariffs laid on by China be reversed, so that no tariffs exist between the two countries? I would expect that anything Canada needs can be procured from China, and the wood and other natural materials Canada has to offer should be welcomed by China.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-03-30 06:12:27

For RobertDyck ....

Thanks for providing your perspective on current events in these troubled times!

Your knowledge of history is helpful as we try to make sense of events.

Best wishes to you and your countrymen as you and they try to navigate.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-03-30 13:16:21

For RobertDyck...

Thank you for your (to me quite surprising) recounting of Minoan (and Athenian) history and folklore.

This post is to invite you to contribute to a new topic: https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=11055

The importance of planning / designing a space vessel with the Center of Mass in mind has come into view, as the small team working on kbd512's Optical Plane Space Vessel advances from broad brush vision to detailed major element design.

The specific issue at hand is how to steer the vessel.

The Apollo Command Module is an interesting example to consider, but there may be other examples.

Should the main engine be mounted on gimbals so the thrust can be steered?

If so, why might that be a good idea?

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tahanson43206 · 2025-04-01 15:01:50

For RobertDyck ....

Thank you for your continuing seminar on both history and current affairs, and the implications of ongoing decision making.

This next item may not show up in any of the active topics, so I thought I'd drop it into your inbox ... GW just wrote a short explanation of why trying to steer a space vessel by injecting propellant into the flow of hot gas, instead of tilting the engine as is done in ** all ** successful liquid rockets. He explained that injecting a subsonic component into a supersonic flow will destroy the symmetry of the supersonic flow and cause deterioration of the performance. He provided more detail, but that is the essence of the tip.

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Inasmuch as we seem headed toward a time of inefficiency, with each nation making it's own cars instead of using the great strength of capitalism which is the Division of Labor, I'm wondering if Canada might partner with other countries, such as Mexico. Perhaps a way could be found to ship freight cars between Canada and Mexico without having to pay duty to the US? The US shippers would receive payment for the service, so the US would get something out of it. Otherwise, Canada and Mexico could exchange goods by sea, bypassing the US entirely.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-04-02 11:12:46

For RobertDyck...

Thanks for your latest post in politics, with details about population and recent changes.

I just asked Google to compare the countries, and was NOT surprised to find that Canada has more land than the US claims, even with all the little add-ons it has.

The population of the US was given (by Google) as 307+ million (as of 2010) while Canada is given as 33.5 million in 2010.

Generally speaking, it is very much to the advantage of any Nation to have more residents than whatever minimum is needed to keep predators at bay. Right now, it appears to me that predators are looking at Canada and Greenland and other lesser states as ripe, juicy plums just for the picking.

So here is my question.... I do not already know the answer. As far as I am aware I do not have an ulterior motive in asking. Does Canada have a Constitution? My understanding is that the UK does not, although the UK does have the Magna Charta as the starting point for the evolution of the concept of the people governing a nation and doing away with the king. In the case of the UK, it took a while, but they got to a semblance of democracy eventually.

I see residents of the UK complaining about their version of self-government, but I don't see them complaining about the autocratic rule of the king. As far as I can tell, the UK has reduced the king to a lesser role of ceremonial duties and moral leadership. The moral leadership part seems a bit tattered right now, but that could change.

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kbd512 · 2025-04-02 11:45:55

tahanson43206,

23 trillion dollars have been siphoned out of the US economy through the trade agreements our leftists have made, which has decimated our middle class. The only predation going on here is the impoverishment of the American middle class by wealthy coastie liberals who gain control over the means of production, only to destroy the factory or send their jobs to other countries. Reshoring manufacturing and offering to buy out otherwise failing nations, which are already contiguous with the US, is NOT predation if the entire end goal is to return them to prosperity and to become stronger as a nation.

We would no more dictate life to Canadians who join America than we do to Texas or California. America's federal government does what it does, often to the dismay of everyone, but the many states are largely operated locally and independently of the federal government. Canada would still be Canada after joining the US. We're not all going to rush to live in Canada if they become part of the Union. Nearly all of their laws would continue to remain in full effect after joining America. Only some errata related to the parliamentary system would be modified, which has far more effect on the liars, I mean lawyers, who run both our nations, than the average citizen. Claiming that the nature of Canada would change is like claiming that the nature of Texas and California would change. Oh, really? Where's the evidence for that?

Texas isn't "preying upon" California. The radical leftists who have made life in California so intolerable that people with the ability to leave are choosing to get as far away from their insanity as they can manage. Texas is offering California's economic refugees a chance at a better life here in Texas, so that's where many of them end up. Some people from Texas still choose to move to California, and that's the great thing about our system. We allow our people to do that.

We would do the same thing for all Canadians and Greenlanders opting to become Americans, unless you want to make the case that the average American is now less well-off than the average Canadian, in which case your insinuation that we are somehow preying upon them doesn't seem to hold water.

Void · 2025-04-02 13:27:06

Really Canada was a cross between an invitation and a wakeup call. Things is changing.

For Greenland, they could easily sell us some of their spots, for bases, and they could opt to be a territory, that is self-governing and pays no federal taxes and has the right to exit the union using proper methods. They could make out like bandits and would have the American citizenship they could use as well.

Europe has to scratch for money to threaten a war. They certainly cannot do what we could do for Greenland. They want us to pay for NATO to protect them, but whine and scream about practical matters that are necessary for the protection of the North Atlantic.

Ending Pending

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tahanson43206 · 2025-04-03 13:25:38

For RobertDyck re post in Politics...

Thanks for posting the summary of the Smoot-Hawley act that led directly to the Great Depression, and fed into the currents that led to World War II.

I'm curious to know if the community of nations might be able to build a tarriff-free exchange excluding the US.

That would be ** something ** to see!

It would require strong leadership! It would require leadership willing to take the enormous risks of dropping the US entirely from the global economy.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-04-07 13:37:55

For RobertDyck re tariffs...

The new UK Prime Minister seems (to me at least) be on the right track!

UK's Keir Starmer vows to cut trade barriers with key partners
Reuters Videos
Mon, April 7, 2025 at 11:55 AM EDT
STORY: :: Keir Starmer vows to secure an economic partnership with the US and cut trade barriers with other key partners
:: Solihull, England
:: April 7, 2025
:: Keir Starmer, British prime minister
"Our future is in our hands. And so, of course, we will keep calm and fight for the best deal with the U.S. So we've been discussing that intensely over the last few days. But we are also going to work with our key partners to reduce barriers to trade across the globe, to accelerate trade deals with the rest of the world and champion the cause of free and open trade right across the globe."

Starmer has sought to secure a deal that would remove the need for tariffs, even as the new U.S. economic policy sent global markets into a tailspin and sparked fears of a global recession.
On Monday he said Britain would continue to work for a U.S. deal but the country's fate had to be in its own hands, adding that the imposition of 25% tariffs on the car industry would be a "huge challenge for our future, and the global economic consequences could be profound."
Starmer spoke to the leaders of France, Germany, Canada and the European Commission in recent days as governments plot a response to Trump's tariffs.

As a citizen of Canada, your voice might move the entire country in this direction.

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tahanson43206 · 2025-04-12 06:32:47

For RobertDyck re topic on corporate governance...

I reread from the top of the topic, to refresh my memory of the flow...

I stopped here: https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 34#p126134

There is a possibility that the US is experiencing a phenomenon often seen in human history of collective psychosis created by one insane individual.

I wonder if a corporate governing structure, with votes based upon property, would be immune to that problem?

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By purest coincidence, I am reading a book about the founding of the US, just as the Nation is enduring a severe trial. I am interested in your ideas about corporate governance, because that is essentially what the early US was living under. The basic structure was the family dictatorship, but the folks implementing power in the early US were essentially division managers. The only votes available were accepted from property owners, and from males of a particular ethnic group. Power was allocated to those who were loyal to the family, ** and ** descended from the "right" stock.

The US undertook an effort to rid themselves of the family governance system, but now we appear to be headed back that way.

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tahanson43206 · Yesterday 11:08:45

For RobertDyck re development of Corporate Governance topic ....

https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 84#p231084

Thank you for continuing to develop this important topic.

My contribution is small in the grand scheme of things.

I scanned the latest post to get a sense of it. I didn't see a reference to trust in any of it.

Without trust between humans, no system of governance is going to work.

You've precluded violence as a method of government, so you need to find a solution that the governed will accept.

Putin and Kim Jong Un appear to have governance by violence down to an art.

Why don't you just go with that and get the messy part over with?

Update: I'll have to reread the post to be sure, but I don't thing there was any reference at all how the population would select people to entrust with violence to maintain order. It may be in there somewhere, but I didn't see it.

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tahanson43206 · Today 06:14:32

For RobertDyck...

Your interaction with kbd512 may lead to something useful.

I haven't read every word of every post, due to time constraints, but I get the sense that there is not yet a system in place to build trust between humans sufficient to insure they cooperate instead of killing each other.

I also haven't seen any evidence the system provides a way to put the best possible leaders in positions of authority (ie, in possession of tools to impose violence).

In the United States, we have seen emerging a new form of violence. According to reports, there are individuals currently in power who are planning to (or may already have) caused the "death" of persons in the Social Security system. This is essentially a "financial death" imposed upon a person who is inside the United States, because not only are Social Security benefits denied, but no work is possible without a Social Security number.

This is a remarkable "invention" of violence in the modern age.

If you are designing a government for Mars, I am wondering how you would find people to hold power, who the citizens/residents would accept as wise rulers.

In the end, the government ** must ** have the support of the governed.

I don't see anything in the corporate structure that insures the support of the government by the governed.

All the corporate structure provides is a work force that is present while compensation is forthcoming.

When the compensation is no longer forthcoming, the population has no reason to pay any attention to the corporation.

Interestingly, the property of the corporation that is in the possession of workers is not necessarily returned to the corporation when compensation ends. Such return would require good will on the part of the worker, and that might not be present.

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