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#2776 2025-04-01 08:32:39

tahanson43206
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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0038/05/24 Tuesday Days of the week OFFSET 0 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth )
Sol 136 Business Month 5
Today on Earth: 2025/04/01 Tuesday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   
====*====*==

To see how this calendar works, we show the standard 28 day month at the bottom of this daily report.
There are 20 months of 28 Sols and 4 months of 27 Sols at the end of the four six-month quarters.
New Years Eve is extended to align the Business Calendar for Mars with the Astronomical calendar.
Business and Astronomical both start at zero (to the nanosecond) on New Year's Day.
This calendar has been in operation for two full Mars years (36 and 37).

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 38  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 3 <<== The Astronomical  month will increment when longitude reaches 90 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 064.1 Sol Number: 136  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0038136
Solar Longitude: 063.6 Sol Number: 135  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038135
Solar Longitude: 063.2 Sol Number: 134  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038134
#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars date as J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred in 2024 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred in 2022 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion Earth Dates: Next: 2025/04/16 Earlier: 2023/05/30, 2021/07/12, 2019/08/25, 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152. 
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per http://www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,061,988 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +23697 <= +0987 km/hour at 12 on 04/01 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,038,291 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +25223 <= +1051 km/hour at 12 on 03/31 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,013,068 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +26683 <= +1112 km/hour at 12 on 03/30 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular movement as seen from Earth.
Something surprising has occurred. TheSkylive.com display does not include Mars.
Mars is shown as RA 07h 44m 40.1s and Declination is +23 degrees 56 minutes 55.4 seconds
The display itself is above and to the right of the planet
HIP 37517 Day 0 just ahead  Day 1 – 1 past
PGC 1698781 below Day 0 – 0 ahead Day 1 – 3 past
HIP 37269 just below path Day 0 – 0 ahead Day 1 abreast Day 2 – 4 past
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/01 171,227,000 (increasing)
Earth Distance in km: 2025/03/31 169,759,000 (increasing)
Earth Distance in km: 2025/03/29 167,094,000 (increasing)
#

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun) Minimum is about 56 million kilometers
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in Year 36. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 136 is in Month 5 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  5 extends from Sol 113 through 140. <<== There are 28 days in Month 5. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 136 is Tuesday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 122 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 159 of Year 38 (alignment due)
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1        2      3      4      5      6      7
8        9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Copyright the Mars Society All Rights Reserved

Month 5 of 24 - Quarter 1 of 4 [Month 1-6] (This month has 28 Sols)

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#2777 2025-04-01 11:18:01

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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

This is an update on a problem with TheSkyLive.com web site, reported in Post #2776.

I reported the problem, and a member of the staff kindly replied.

it appears this was indeed a problem, and the staff person corrected it.

I am happy to report that Mars is back in the center of the view, for all who've been using that very nice feature of TheSkyLive.com web site.

However, this ** is ** an opportunity for me to reminder our members and readers that TheSkyLive.com has a LOT more to offer, so I hope folks may take a few minutes to investigate.

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#2778 2025-04-02 06:09:47

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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update:

[51.4797N, 0.0000E] 04/02/2025, 13:03:16 Europe/London
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 45m 57.6s Dec +23° 52' 20.3" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.45 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 249,084,273 km [22.0 km/s]
Earth Dist: 172,513,757 km [20.1 km/s]


Martian Year:   
38
Martian Astronomical Month:   
3
Solar longitude Ls:   
64.5
Sol number:   
137

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#2779 2025-04-02 13:54:09

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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0038/05/25 Wednesday Days of the week OFFSET 0 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth )
Sol 137 Business Month 5
Today on Earth: 2025/04/02 Wednesday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   
====*====*==

To see how this calendar works, we show the standard 28 day month at the bottom of this daily report.
There are 20 months of 28 Sols and 4 months of 27 Sols at the end of the four six-month quarters.
New Years Eve is extended to align the Business Calendar for Mars with the Astronomical calendar.
Business and Astronomical both start at zero (to the nanosecond) on New Year's Day.
This calendar has been in operation for two full Mars years (36 and 37).

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 38  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 3 <<== The Astronomical  month will increment when longitude reaches 90 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 064.5 Sol Number: 137  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038137
Solar Longitude: 064.1 Sol Number: 136  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0038136
Solar Longitude: 063.6 Sol Number: 135  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038135
#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars date as J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred in 2024 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred in 2022 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion Earth Dates: Next: 2025/04/16 Earlier: 2023/05/30, 2021/07/12, 2019/08/25, 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152. 
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per http://www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,084,273 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +22285 <= +0928 km/hour at 12 on 04/02 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,061,988 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +23697 <= +0987 km/hour at 12 on 04/01 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,038,291 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +25223 <= +1051 km/hour at 12 on 03/31 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular movement as seen from Earth.
Next ahead: HIP 37988 below Day 0 – 0 ahead
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/02 172,639,000 (increasing)
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/01 171,227,000 (increasing)
Earth Distance in km: 2025/03/31 169,759,000 (increasing)
#

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun) Minimum is about 56 million kilometers
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in Year 36. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 137 is in Month 5 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  5 extends from Sol 113 through 140. <<== There are 28 days in Month 5. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 137 is Wednesday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 122 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 159 of Year 38 (alignment due)
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1        2      3      4      5      6      7
8        9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Copyright the Mars Society All Rights Reserved

Month 5 of 24 - Quarter 1 of 4 [Month 1-6] (This month has 28 Sols)

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#2780 2025-04-03 06:01:13

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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update

[51.4797N, 0.0000E] 04/03/2025, 13:00:00 Europe/London
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 47m 23.8s Dec +23° 47' 14.7" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.50 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 249,104,975 km [22.0 km/s]
Earth Dist: 173,925,757 km [20.3 km/s]

Martian Year:   
38
Martian Astronomical Month:   
3
Solar longitude Ls:   
64.9
Sol number:   
138

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#2781 2025-04-03 09:20:54

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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0038/05/26 Thursday Days of the week OFFSET 0 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth )
Sol 138 Business Month 5
Today on Earth: 2025/04/03 Thursday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   
====*====*==

To see how this calendar works, we show the standard 28 day month at the bottom of this daily report.
There are 20 months of 28 Sols and 4 months of 27 Sols at the end of the four six-month quarters.
New Years Eve is extended to align the Business Calendar for Mars with the Astronomical calendar.
Business and Astronomical both start at zero (to the nanosecond) on New Year's Day.
This calendar has been in operation for two full Mars years (36 and 37).

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 38  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 3 <<== The Astronomical  month will increment when longitude reaches 90 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 064.9 Sol Number: 138  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038138
Solar Longitude: 064.5 Sol Number: 137  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038137
Solar Longitude: 064.1 Sol Number: 136  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0038136
#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars date as J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred in 2024 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred in 2022 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion Earth Dates: Next: 2025/04/16 Earlier: 2023/05/30, 2021/07/12, 2019/08/25, 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152. 
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per http://www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,104,975 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +20702 <= +0863 km/hour at 12 on 04/03 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,084,273 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +22285 <= +0928 km/hour at 12 on 04/02 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,061,988 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +23697 <= +0987 km/hour at 12 on 04/01 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular movement as seen from Earth.
HIP 37988 RA 07h 47m 09.0s below Day 0 – 1 ahead
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/03 174,118,000 (increasing)
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/02 172,639,000 (increasing)
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/01 171,227,000 (increasing)
#

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun) Minimum is about 56 million kilometers
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in Year 36. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 138 is in Month 5 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  5 extends from Sol 113 through 140. <<== There are 28 days in Month 5. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 138 is Thursday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 122 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 159 of Year 38 (alignment due)
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1        2      3      4      5      6      7
8        9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update:

[51.4797N, 0.0000E] 04/04/2025, 13:00:01 Europe/London
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 48m 51.2s Dec +23° 42' 03.5" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.53 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 249,124,242 km [22.0 km/s]
Earth Dist: 175,342,105 km [20.5 km/s]

Martian Year:   
38
Martian Astronomical Month:   
3
Solar longitude Ls:   
65.4
Sol number:   
139

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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0038/05/27 Friday Days of the week OFFSET 0 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth )
Sol 139 Business Month 5
Today on Earth: 2025/04/04 Friday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   
====*====*==

To see how this calendar works, we show the standard 28 day month at the bottom of this daily report.
There are 20 months of 28 Sols and 4 months of 27 Sols at the end of the four six-month quarters.
New Years Eve is extended to align the Business Calendar for Mars with the Astronomical calendar.
Business and Astronomical both start at zero (to the nanosecond) on New Year's Day.
This calendar has been in operation for two full Mars years (36 and 37).

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 38  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 3 <<== The Astronomical  month will increment when longitude reaches 90 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 065.4 Sol Number: 139  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0038139
Solar Longitude: 064.9 Sol Number: 138  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038138
Solar Longitude: 064.5 Sol Number: 137  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038137
#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars date as J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred in 2024 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred in 2022 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion Earth Dates: Next: 2025/04/16 Earlier: 2023/05/30, 2021/07/12, 2019/08/25, 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152. 
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per http://www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,124,242 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +19268 <= +0803 km/hour at 12 on 04/04 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,104,975 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +20702 <= +0863 km/hour at 12 on 04/03 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,084,273 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +22285 <= +0928 km/hour at 12 on 04/02 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular movement as seen from Earth.
Next ahead: Galaxy PGC 1693220 Day 0-0 Ahead and just above
HIP 37988 RA 07h 47m 09.0s below Day 0 – 1 ahead Day 2 - 2 below and past
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/04 175,582,000 (increasing)
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/03 174,118,000 (increasing)
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/02 172,639,000 (increasing)
#

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun) Minimum is about 56 million kilometers
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in Year 36. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 139 is in Month 5 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  5 extends from Sol 113 through 140. <<== There are 28 days in Month 5. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 139 is Friday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 122 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 159 of Year 38 (alignment due)
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1        2      3      4      5      6      7
8        9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update:

[51.4797N, 0.0000E] 04/05/2025, 13:00:00 Europe/London
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 50m 20.1s Dec +23° 36' 46.6" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.53 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 249,142,021 km [22.0 km/s]
Earth Dist: 176,759,305 km [20.7 km/s]

Martian Year:   
38
Martian Astronomical Month:   
3
Solar longitude Ls:   
65.8
Sol number:   
140

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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0038/05/28 Saturday Days of the week OFFSET 0 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth )
Sol 140 Business Month 5
Today on Earth: 2025/04/05 Saturday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   
====*====*==

To see how this calendar works, we show the standard 28 day month at the bottom of this daily report.
There are 20 months of 28 Sols and 4 months of 27 Sols at the end of the four six-month quarters.
New Years Eve is extended to align the Business Calendar for Mars with the Astronomical calendar.
Business and Astronomical both start at zero (to the nanosecond) on New Year's Day.
This calendar has been in operation for two full Mars years (36 and 37).

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 38  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 3 <<== The Astronomical  month will increment when longitude reaches 90 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 065.8 Sol Number: 140  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038140
Solar Longitude: 065.4 Sol Number: 139  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0038139
Solar Longitude: 064.9 Sol Number: 138  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038138
#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars date as J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred in 2024 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred in 2022 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion Earth Dates: Next: 2025/04/16 Earlier: 2023/05/30, 2021/07/12, 2019/08/25, 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152. 
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per http://www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,142,021 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +17779 <= +0741 km/hour at 12 on 04/05 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,124,242 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +19268 <= +0803 km/hour at 12 on 04/04 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,104,975 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +20702 <= +0863 km/hour at 12 on 04/03 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular movement as seen from Earth.
Skipped observation 2025/04/05
Next ahead: Galaxy PGC 1693220 Day 0-0 Ahead and just above
HIP 37988 RA 07h 47m 09.0s below Day 0 – 1 ahead Day 2 - 2 below and past
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Skipped observation 2025/04/05
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/04 175,582,000 (increasing)
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/03 174,118,000 (increasing)
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/02 172,639,000 (increasing)
#

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun) Minimum is about 56 million kilometers
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in Year 36. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 140 is in Month 5 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  5 extends from Sol 113 through 140. <<== There are 28 days in Month 5. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 140 is Friday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 122 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 159 of Year 38 (alignment due)
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1        2      3      4      5      6      7
8        9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update:

[51.4797N, 0.0000E] 04/06/2025, 13:00:00 Europe/London
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 51m 50.5s Dec +23° 31' 23.7" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.55 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 249,158,313 km [22.0 km/s]
Earth Dist: 178,177,192 km [20.9 km/s]


Martian Year:   
38
Martian Astronomical Month:   
3
Solar longitude Ls:   
66.2
Sol number:   
141

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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0038/06/01 Sunday Days of the week OFFSET 0 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth )
Sol 141 Business Month 6
Today on Earth: 2025/04/06 Sunday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   
====*====*==

To see how this calendar works, we show the standard 28 day month at the bottom of this daily report.
There are 20 months of 28 Sols and 4 months of 27 Sols at the end of the four six-month quarters.
New Years Eve is extended to align the Business Calendar for Mars with the Astronomical calendar.
Business and Astronomical both start at zero (to the nanosecond) on New Year's Day.
This calendar has been in operation for two full Mars years (36 and 37).

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 38  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 3 <<== The Astronomical  month will increment when longitude reaches 90 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 066.2 Sol Number: 141  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038141
Solar Longitude: 065.8 Sol Number: 140  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038140
Solar Longitude: 065.4 Sol Number: 139  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0038139
#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars date as J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred in 2024 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred in 2022 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion Earth Dates: Next: 2025/04/16 Earlier: 2023/05/30, 2021/07/12, 2019/08/25, 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152. 
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per http://www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,158,313 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +16292 <= +0679 km/hour at 12 on 04/06 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,142,021 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +17779 <= +0741 km/hour at 12 on 04/05 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,124,242 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +19268 <= +0803 km/hour at 12 on 04/04 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular movement as seen from Earth.

Next ahead: PGC 1687282 below Day 0 – 0 ahead
Skipped observation 2025/04/05
PGC 1693220 Day 0-0 Ahead and just above Day 1 well past
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/06 178,299,000 (increasing)
Skipped observation 2025/04/05
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/04 175,582,000 (increasing)
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/03 174,118,000 (increasing)
#

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun) Minimum is about 56 million kilometers
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in Year 36. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 141 is in Month 6 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  6 extends from Sol 141 through 167. <<== There are 27 days in Month 6. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 141 is Sunday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 122 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 159 of Year 38 (alignment due)
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1        2      3      4      5      6      7
8        9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update:

[51.4797N, 0.0000E] 04/07/2025, 13:00:07 Europe/London
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 53m 21.9s Dec +23° 25' 54.7" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.58 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 249,173,119 km [22.0 km/s]
Earth Dist: 179,595,659 km [21.1 km/s]

Martian Year:   
38
Martian Astronomical Month:   
3
Solar longitude Ls:   
66.7
Sol number:   
142

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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0038/06/02 Monday Days of the week OFFSET 0 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth )
Sol 142 Business Month 6
Today on Earth: 2025/04/07 Monday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   
====*====*==

To see how this calendar works, we show the standard 28 day month at the bottom of this daily report.
There are 20 months of 28 Sols and 4 months of 27 Sols at the end of the four six-month quarters.
New Years Eve is extended to align the Business Calendar for Mars with the Astronomical calendar.
Business and Astronomical both start at zero (to the nanosecond) on New Year's Day.
This calendar has been in operation for two full Mars years (36 and 37).

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 38  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 3 <<== The Astronomical  month will increment when longitude reaches 90 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 066.7 Sol Number: 142  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0038142
Solar Longitude: 066.2 Sol Number: 141  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038141
Solar Longitude: 065.8 Sol Number: 140  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038140
#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars date as J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred in 2024 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred in 2022 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion Earth Dates: Next: 2025/04/16 Earlier: 2023/05/30, 2021/07/12, 2019/08/25, 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152. 
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per http://www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,173,119 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +14806 <= +0617 km/hour at 12 on 04/07 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,158,313 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +16292 <= +0679 km/hour at 12 on 04/06 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,142,021 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +17779 <= +0741 km/hour at 12 on 04/05 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular movement as seen from Earth.

Next ahead: Star TYC 1925-1080-1 RA 07h 53m 33.5s Day 0 – 0 ahead below
PGC 1687282 below Day 0 – 0 ahead Day 1 – 1 past
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/07 17,968,000 (increasing)
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/06 178,299,000 (increasing)
Skipped observation 2025/04/05
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/04 175,582,000 (increasing)
#

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun) Minimum is about 56 million kilometers
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in Year 36. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 142 is in Month 6 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  6 extends from Sol 141 through 167. <<== There are 27 days in Month 6. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 142 is Monday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 122 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 159 of Year 38 (alignment due)
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1        2      3      4      5      6      7
8        9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Copyright the Mars Society All Rights Reserved

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#2790 Today 06:03:41

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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update:

[51.4797N, 0.0000E] 04/08/2025, 13:00:01 Europe/London
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 54m 54.3s Dec +23° 20' 19.6" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.58 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 249,186,434 km [22.0 km/s]
Earth Dist: 181,014,211 km [21.3 km/s]

Martian Year:   
38
Martian Astronomical Month:   
3
Solar longitude Ls:   
67.1
Sol number:   
143

Notes on Optical Plane specifications and properties

40 MW target power
36 mm diameter of 1 watt optical device
38 mm side of square to allow expansion space
20K * 20K >> 40 MW
10K number of devices per wing
Number of wings 2 (port and starboard)
38 mm * 10000 devices >> 380000 mm >> 380 meters on a side
100 centimeters per meter
10000 square centimeters per meter
1000 watts per square meter (solation estimate)
10 square centimeters per watt
Square root of 10 >> 3.16227766
36 mm nearest available diameter of optical device
2 mm separation for expansion
Confirming: 38 * 10000 * 2 >> 760000 mm per side >> 760 meters per side
***
An array of optical devices 760 meters on a side will deliver 40 MW

Evaluation of numbers provided by kbd512 for NERVA XE Prime

Hydrogen flow rate: 32.7 kg/s (full output)
Core power output: 1,137MWth
Core temperature at full output: 2,270 K
Chamber pressure 593.1 psi
One bar: 14.504 psi
Chamber pressure in bar: 40.892

Note: Hydrogen travels through tubes for heating by the reactor core

Per convert units.com >> 26.988115128723 metric tons from 246,663 Newton

Review of array size:
Given objective of 1 watt per device
Given 1000 watts per square meter >> 10000 square centimeters / 1000 >> 10 square centimeters
Per convertunits.com: r≈1.78 Radius of circle with area of 10 square centimeters >> 17.8 mm >> diameter 3.56 mm
Rounding to available optical device: 36 mm
Adding space for expansion 2 mm >> 38 mm per device
10000 devices per wing * 2 wings per row: 20000 devices per row and 20000 rows
20000 * 38 >> 760000 mm on a side >> 760 meters on a side

Note re earlier estimate of 240 meters on a side:
This incorrect estimate was based upon the incorrect idea that one watt could be collected by a square 10 mm on a side.

If a square meter collects 1000 watts,
then 1 watt is collected by 1000th of a square meter
.001 square meter >> 10 square centimeters
A circle with an area of 10 square centimeters has a radius of 1.78 centimeters
Only circular optical collection devices are available.
The diameter of that circle is 3.56 cm or 35.6 mm rounding to 36 plus 2 mm >> 38 mm square
20000 devices per row * 38 mm >> 760 meters
20000 rows * 38 mm >> 760 meters

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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0038/06/03 Tuesday Days of the week OFFSET 0 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth )
Sol 143 Business Month 6 last month of Quarter 1
Today on Earth: 2025/04/08 Tuesday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   
====*====*==

To see how this calendar works, we show the standard 28 day month at the bottom of this daily report.
There are 20 months of 28 Sols and 4 months of 27 Sols at the end of the four six-month quarters.
New Years Eve is extended to align the Business Calendar for Mars with the Astronomical calendar.
Business and Astronomical both start at zero (to the nanosecond) on New Year's Day.
This calendar has been in operation for two full Mars years (36 and 37).

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 38  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 3 <<== The Astronomical  month will increment when longitude reaches 90 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 067.1 Sol Number: 143  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038143
Solar Longitude: 066.7 Sol Number: 142  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0038142
Solar Longitude: 066.2 Sol Number: 141  Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0038141
#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars date as J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred in 2024 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred in 2022 at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion Earth Dates: Next: 2025/04/16 Earlier: 2023/05/30, 2021/07/12, 2019/08/25, 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152. 
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per http://www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,186,434 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +13315 <= +0555 km/hour at 12 on 04/08 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,173,119 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +14806 <= +0617 km/hour at 12 on 04/07 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   249,158,313 km [22.0 km/s] Difference is +16292 <= +0679 km/hour at 12 on 04/06 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular movement as seen from Earth.

Next ahead: PGC 1684534 below Day 0 – 0 ahead
TYC 1925-1080-1 RA 07h 53m 33.5s Day 0 – 0 ahead below Day 1 even
PGC 1687282 below Day 0 – 0 ahead Day 1 – 2 past
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/08 181,192,000 (increasing)
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/07 179,168,000 (increasing)
Earth Distance in km: 2025/04/06 178,299,000 (increasing)
#

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun) Minimum is about 56 million kilometers
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in Year 36. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 143 is in Month 6 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  6 extends from Sol 141 through 167. <<== There are 27 days in Month 6. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 143 is Tuesday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 122 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 159 of Year 38 (alignment due)
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

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Month 6 of 24 - Quarter 1 of 4 [Month 1-6]  (This month has 27 Sols)

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