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#1 2024-06-12 20:38:35

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Morning frost – on Mars? How a 'surprise' discovery offers new insight

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo … 23598&ei=5
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Morning frost – on Mars? How a 'surprise' discovery offers new insights
Story by Jeanine Santucci, USA TODAY • 5h

I had always hoped that water could be had up on those mountains.  While collecting frost does not seem like a sensible option, it may be that if the RH% is high at times it may be possible to pull water out of the extremely thin atmosphere.

It is an outside chance, but consider that if it can be harvested then these mountain tops may be a great place to launch things to orbit.

Not very good for landing on though.  My thinking is that perhaps an empty ship could land in a low area on Mars, get refilled with propellants, do a hop to the top of such a mountain and take on cargo to launch to orbit.

Also, things like mass drivers may work well on those mountaintops, and also tethers may be able to reach down to the calderas from orbit.

But more information is needed as to if it can make any sense and be of a benefit to try to do those things.

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#2 2024-06-12 20:57:03

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Re: Morning frost – on Mars? How a 'surprise' discovery offers new insight

This post is reserved for an index to posts that may be contributed by NewMars members over time.

Best wishes for success with this interesting new topic.

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#3 2024-06-14 13:45:53

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Re: Morning frost – on Mars? How a 'surprise' discovery offers new insight

There is a further mention of frost on Olympus Mons in this video.  But it is a small part of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPGGi1-yAUE&t=711s  Quote:

New Visible Star Is Coming // Starship Mars Sample Return // Frost on Olympus Mons

Fraser Cain

(See about at 09:18 / 19:23)

It sounds like when it happens it happens shortly after sunrise, and the deposits go into cold shadows, and they disappear in a few hours.  Very thin deposits, but actually the whole accumulation is significant 

So, maybe a method to collect water could be developed.


There is also this: https://www.brown.edu/news/2024-06-10/mars-frost
A couple of nice images of the frost in that article.


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#4 2024-06-23 21:56:56

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Re: Morning frost – on Mars? How a 'surprise' discovery offers new insight

Some more materials: https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topst … 39b19&ei=6

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