International Space Station (ISS / Alpha)

Mars_B4_Moon · 2023-10-28 07:00:03

Perhaps also suitable for the ISS and Woes to Mars topic

Russian space boss warns ISS equipment beyond warranty
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Russ … y_999.html

SpaceNut · 2023-12-10 09:38:29

NASA pushes back timing of ISS deorbit vehicle contract

Proposals now due in 2024 for a launch 5 years later

but the expiration of the station was set for 2028 for continued use so even this is off in thinking that it was next year for taking it down.

However, the new dates align nicely with when the ISS is currently expected to reach the end of its life. Russia has committed to keep contributing through to at least 2028, and the other international space agencies, including ESA and NASA, hope to continue through 2030.

Mostly due to the political issues of the Ukraine invasion war.

NASA officials put in a budget request of $180 million to start building a module to deorbit the complex. The September 2023 procurement notice requested proposals from industry by November 17, 2023. This was extended over the subsequent weeks and, as of the latest change, now stands at February 12, 2024. The desired and required delivery and launch dates have also changed. The hoped for delivery date is now August 1, 2028, with launch to occur December 1, 2028. Required delivery is May 1, 2029, with launch on September 1, 2029.

Thats not much money to start a design of a module to push the station in order to deorbit it.

GW Johnson · 2023-12-10 14:22:56

NASA screwed around just like this, and let Skylab fall back uncontrolled in 1979. If they don't get their act together a lot better this time, it'll happen again. And like Skylab, about 80+% of the mass will survive entry and crash. Somewhere. And it's a lot bigger than Skylab.

GW

Mars_B4_Moon · 2023-12-12 08:29:26

Russia launches space station cargo ship

https://spaceflightnow.com/2023/12/01/r … argo-ship/

Mars_B4_Moon · 2023-12-28 13:11:41

Russia, NASA agree to continue joint ISS flights until 2025

https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Russ … 5_999.html

SpaceNut · 2024-01-27 12:24:46

Seems second thoughts are happening as the station is slated to have its demise in the earths ocean rather than laying the ground for a future. 'There's nothing magical that happens in 2030': NASA eyes possible ISS extension for astronaut missions

GW Johnson · 2024-01-27 14:42:09

I'm not surprised they want to de-orbit the ISS in 2030. It'll be rather worn out, after 30 years manned. Wear-out manifests itself as a slew of problems, some of which can be lethal threats. The same thing was seen with the Mir station. No longer safe to use.

These things have to be lightweight enough to fly, and that inherently goes with "flimsy". Maybe not the shells themselves (although I would never bet on that), but all the supporting plumbing and wiring. It all wears out.

GW

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tahanson43206 · 2024-01-27 15:00:47

For SpaceNut re #706

Here is a bit more from the article you cited ...

"There's nothing magical that happens in 2030," Steve Stich, the manager of the commercial crew program at NASA's Johnson Space Center (JSC) in Houston, said during a livestreamed briefing at the center on Thursday (Jan. 25) about the upcoming SpaceX Crew-8 astronaut mission to the ISS.
Stich said NASA is eyeing the progress of commercial space stations that will host agency astronauts and science in the 2030s. "We want them [the commercial stations] to be supportive, and then when they're ready to go, that's when ISS will move out of the way," he said.
Related: Watch balloon-like space station module explode (on purpose) during 1st full-scale burst test
Keeping the more than 25-year-old ISS flying beyond 2030 will require more than just good health, however. Funding must persist as NASA and most ISS partners also develop expensive crewed moon missions, under the NASA-led Artemis program and the international Artemis Accords that include more than 30 countries.

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SpaceNut · 2024-01-28 17:07:09

Axiom space modules are slated to join the station to depart from it before the station is deep sixed

https://youtu.be/C6pTi06cglw?si=joZ_yV_uVeTXSmNv

SpaceNut · 2024-02-04 12:26:21

SpaceX successfully launched a Falcon 9 rocket carrying Northrop Grumman's Cygnus resupply spacecraft to resupply the International Space Station at 12:07 p.m. Tuesday from Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida.

The Cygnus resupply craft is carrying more than 8,200 pounds of supplies and equipment that will support scientific research on the space station.

https://blogs.nasa.gov/ng-20/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygnus_NG-20

https://www.northropgrumman.com/space/n … sion-ng-20

SpaceNut · 2024-02-29 20:14:06

Air leak detected on International Space Station: What Russian officials have to say

space officials on Wednesday acknowledged a continuing air leak from the Russian segment the leak in the Russian segment has increased but emphasized that it remains small and poses no threat to the crew's safety or vehicle operations.

As the space outpost is aging, the crew has to spend more time to repair and maintain it,

Mars_B4_Moon · 2024-03-02 07:36:03

House Hearing: The ISS and Beyond 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0cl1xlIxXQ

Mars_B4_Moon · 2024-03-04 13:40:57

NASA’s SpaceX Crew-8 Mission: Broadcast Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6GZdknTtmk

rehearsal of launch day activities ahead of liftoff
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1762498883438199102

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SpaceNut · 2024-03-04 18:33:16

There is a problem with the dragon as the crack in the hatch of the Crew-8 spacecraft discovered in the hatch seal of the spacecraft around 30 minutes before liftoff.

While engineers were doing a final check of the hatch following its closure, including taking photos of the seal, they noticed a crack in the RTV (a type of silicone), which acts as a top coating on the hatch seal. The crack is estimated to be 0.02 square inches, and a crack would have to be more than twice that size to be enough to prevent the launch.

Mars_B4_Moon · 2024-03-06 13:15:24

ナポリとベスビオ山(イタリア)
https://twitter.com/Astro_Satoshi/statu … 2530775444
Naples and Mt. Vesuvio (Italy)

SpaceNut · 2024-03-16 08:42:28

10 Things About Living On The International Space Station You Probably Never Realized

Mars_B4_Moon · 2024-03-24 13:27:11

Soyuz MS-25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9d2MeGOjwQ

previously

A Soyuz crew launch suffers a rare abort seconds before liftoff
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/03/a … e-liftoff/

SpaceNut wrote:

10 Things About Living On The International Space Station You Probably Never Realized

I knew these but 'Loud Background Noise' had me think deeper again and search the net

Noisy can have elements of psychology but the decibel scale is a science and related to how humans hear sound

the acceptable level during the 8 hours of “sleep” time is 62 dB.

In this paper and chart you can see it go near 90 db where hearing damage might happen
and
'Hearing Protection'

Many different types of HPDs are available to crewmembers onboard ISS, including both passive and active devices. These include disposable foam earplugs, custom (molded) earplugs, and active noise reduction (ANR) headsets

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Mars_B4_Moon · 2024-04-07 07:52:53

Welcome aboard! Including newly-arrived astronaut Tracy Dyson, there are now 10 people living and working aboard the Space_Station . All of them will conduct ISS_Research to benefit people on Earth
https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1772315944779481423

Welcome to our nation's capital, Expedition 69!
https://twitter.com/SenBillNelson/statu … 7385588960
This week, I'm joining our astronauts as they update Congress on NASA's ongoing missions, including Artemis and cancer research aboard the

Welcome home! After 204 days in space, NASA astronaut Loral O'Hara, and after 14 days in space, Roscosmos cosmonaut Oleg Novitskiy and Belarus spaceflight participant Marina Vasilevskaya have returned to Earth in Kazakhstan
https://twitter.com/nasahqphoto/status/ … 1193480674

US, Russian, Belarus ISS colleagues return to Earth
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/US_R … h_999.html

SpaceNut · 2024-05-25 12:36:13

10 Things About Living On The International Space Station You Probably Never Realized Construction began on the ISS in the early 1990s, with cooperation between several nations and space agencies required to complete it before its launch in 1998.

The very name of the International Space Station suggests that it is a worldwide endeavor, rather than something under the control of a single country. While NASA of the United States and Russia's Roscosmos are most closely associated with the ISS, a number of other nations were also involved in the design of the facility and continue to help with its operation through a series of partnerships and agreements -- something that is necessary considering the huge cost of the project, which is estimated to be more than $100 billion.
JAXA of Japan, the European Space Agency, and the Canadian Space Agency have all contributed, with countries such as Italy, Germany, France, Spain, and the United Kingdom all involved. Brazil was also a partner between 1997 and 2007, and there have been discussions about other nations, such as China, also joining.
According to the Kennedy Space Center, the average mission length for astronauts going to the ISS is around six months. With the station orbiting Earth 16 times a day, the crew will go around the planet thousands of times during their mission.
Some astronauts will spend a lot more time on the ISS. Scott Kelly "spent 340 days, almost a full year, on the facility. Meanwhile, both Frank Rubio and Mark Vande Hei have had longer missions, staying on the ISS for 371 and 355 days, respectively. Peggy Whitson has the current U.S. record for total cumulative time on the ISS, spending 655 days on it across multiple missions.

Approximately 270 people have visited the ISS from some 21 countries.

Mars_B4_Moon · 2024-06-06 02:28:17

Boeing Starliner flies NASA astronauts into space for first time
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/l … rcna155185

Moment of liftoff for Boeing Starliner's first crewed mission
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cj557n5ml4po
Boeing's Starliner successfully launched from the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, Florida

Boeing’s Starliner launches NASA astronauts after setbacks, delays
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/ … 868f388605
Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft has blasted off on its first astronaut mission, a years-in-the-making flight

some small glitches?

In the last hour or so, Boeing and the flight team at Mission Control Center in Houston have been addressing a series of helium leaks within the Starliner's propulsion system in the top and port doghouses on the service module. Here's a synopsis from the NASA commentator as Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams are headed to bed
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1798515115886539070

Mars_B4_Moon · 2024-06-06 18:11:36

Contact and capture. Starliner docks with the ISS
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1798770563584020962

Launched on Atlas V one of NASA's backbone of expendable launch systems originally designed by Lockheed Martin, now being operated by ULA

Happy Faces!

Docking and Hatch Open

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5mCIrhXS9o

twitter/x feed on video replay Harmony module
https://x.com/NASA/status/1798771377245393221
'Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams will soon make their way into the orbital laboratory, where they'll spend about a week.'

Sunita Williams and Butch Wilmore have been on a number of Missions before, 'Suni' was already a record holder for most spacewalks by a woman and most spacewalk time for a woman, 'Butch' has been involved with 3-d printing the first time humans manufactured off world and both US Astronauts have the rank of Captain in the US Navy, both have flown the Soyuz.
and with all the human endurance missions, international cooperation between nations, new experiments and successful US privatization and world commercial space over the years it makes you realize how valuable the ISS has been as a facility for testing new spacecraft ideas and bridge between nations and allowing companies to grow and experiment

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Mars_B4_Moon · 2024-06-07 05:03:43

Space_Station crew's remarks welcoming #Starliner Crew Flight Test commander Butch Wilmore and pilot Astro_Suni to ISS

https://x.com/BoeingSpace/status/1798809620762521824

Some notes from the post-docking news conference on Starliner: Engineers found a fourth helium leak after capture. The thruster issues were similar to those observed on OFT-2, and are still not fully understood.

https://x.com/sciguyspace/status/1798827111454827003

Mars_B4_Moon · 2024-06-12 04:42:54

ISS 90th spacewalk will retreive microorganisms from exterior of space station
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/ISS_ … b_999.html

Mars_B4_Moon · 2024-06-13 06:32:31

There is no emergency situation going on aboard the International Space Station. At approximately 5:28 p.m. CDT, audio was aired on the NASA livestream from a simulation audio channel on the ground indicating a crew member was experiencing effects related to decompression sickness (DCS). This audio was inadvertently misrouted from an ongoing simulation where crew members and ground teams train for various scenarios in space and is not related to a real emergency. The International Space Station crew members were in their sleep period at the time. All remain healthy and safe, and tomorrow’s spacewalk will start at 8 a.m. EDT as planned.

https://x.com/Space_Station/status/1801043194253127963

some other somewhat related discussion

' What are effects of exsposure to Mars - Help with an answer'
http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=3403

'Habitat air'
http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=7157

'Spacesuits - personal spaceship'
http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2121

GW Johnson · 2024-07-19 08:22:31

I see SpaceX got a contract from NASA to build a Dragon with a way-oversize service module, modified for viability after many months in space, to be the deorbit propulsion device for the ISS. This will get used along about 2031 or 2032 when ISS is decommissioned and disposed of. There is some question remaining to be solved about how to launch such a hugely-overweight Dragon to ISS. My guess is Falcon-Heavy. But I know nothing.

GW

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