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and the 'Birdwatch' mail and broadcast system on X or Twitter
People are complain about votes across the world, complain about the US system which is currently in a process of slow change with a firey election and two unpopular candidates, one of them going to win re-election
and there has been change in EU and Australian system.
Democracy always risks pushing forward the corrupted demagogue they can be radical Leftwing or radical Rightwing, extremes of Conservative or extremes of Liberal, they appeal on emotion, seduce popular desires and speak with emotion and prejudices rather than soliving something by math logic they often use emotional tactics
In the country of Switzerland. Landsgemeinden are public voting gatherings and are one of the oldest examples of direct democracy, Singapore a diverse culture ranks highly in gender equality and parity.
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A positive vote might offer something like
1st place 5+ points
2nd place 4+ points
3rd place 3+points
4th place 2+ points
5th place 1+ points
One positive described by this system is it allows more represented ranked voting instead of two major A vs B candidates, it allows someone to politically win by picking up lots of 3rd place, 4th place and 5th place votes.
However we can see in Europe and Australia some unpopular fringe parties become more powerful which can also create problems in king maker alliances, 'Kingmaker' Lieberman politics.
The risks of Coalition politics and alliances of parties a group of actors that coordinate?
popular? How Biden compares with past presidents
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/bi … al-rating/
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https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/ … val-rating
a modified system might include a +5, + 4, +3, +2, +1
but also Proportioned Ranked-Choice-Hatred Dislike Votes
Worst who you never want to be Mayor, President or Prime Minster place -5 points
2nd place -4 points
3rd place -3points
4th place -2 points
5th -1
a Candidate could have a lot of negative votes and never be near power because they are disliked by both sides, they would have only minority fringe support as too many Republicans and Democrats on both sides do not want this person reelected.
This type of system if or something similar to it launched in 2024 could have upset the current US election cycle, leaving a person like Bernie Sanders, Nikki Haley, Chris Christie, RFK, Ron DeSantis, Jason Palmer, Dean Phillips and Marianne Williamson still in the race...they would be still disliked but less disliked than your two main candidates Trump and Biden.
The Birdwatch post and broadcast system
Community Notes, formerly known as Birdwatch, is a feature on X (formerly Twitter) where contributors can add context such as fact-checks under a post, image or video. It is a community-driven content moderation program, intended to provide helpful and informative context, based on a crowd-sourced system. Notes are applied to potentially misleading content by an algorithm not based on majority rule, but instead agreement from users on different sides of the political spectrum.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic … is-working
May 2024, John W. Ayers, a behavioural scientist from the University of California, San Diego, published a study in the Journal of the American Medical Association based on fact-checking of COVID-19 vaccines. In the sample of 205 Community Notes, according to Ayers and other researches, the information was accurate in 96% of notes, and 87% of sources were of high quality. The lead author, according to Bloomberg UK, stated that only a small percentage of misinformation received a note, while published notes were among the most viral content
a modification on ranked votes
What Is Ranked-Choice Voting?
https://time.com/5718941/ranked-choice-voting/
This popular electoral system allows voters to rank candidates by preference, meaning they can submit ballots that list not only their first-choice candidate for a position, but also their second, third and so on.
The Real Power of Preferential Voting in Australia
https://thediplomat.com/2022/06/the-rea … australia/
Lessons from Australia’s Ranked Choice Voting Election
https://fairvote.org/lessons_from_austr … _election/
Is our electoral system truly democratic? How Australia stacks up on 4 key measures
https://theconversation.com/is-our-elec … res-180868
in every Democracy there is risk of Demagogues, there is no single definition of a Demagogue as each person has different traits they might push Majoritarianism, a type of rule by Mob, they might be charming and work on people's Fears, they may have a Narcissistic leadership which develops into Cult of Personality worship, they might just hate the other side.
The demagogue has been around a while, recording by Europe and Greeks as the political leader who seeks support by appealing the common people or mob popular desires and speak with prejudice words rather than using rational thought they will use emotional broadcasts, American writers, British and French writers have noted them over the years. Huey Long, Joseph McCarthy, Putin, Mugabe who received an honorary British Order of Empire knighthood and collapsed the currency and dominated Zimbabwe's politics for nearly four decades, one month after being deposed, but before he died, many of the public references to Mugabe – street names, for example – had been removed from public places, John Sentamu part of English religious culture in Britain, the Uganda-born Archbishop of York called Mugabe "the worst kind of racist dictator",
https://web.archive.org/web/20230901233 … blic-space
these people might be classed as Demagogues some of them eventually became classed as dictators. Flaminius famously defeated by Hannibal was described as a demagogue by Polybius, in his book The Histories ". Aristotle pointed out the bad manners of Cleon more than 2,000 years ago: "Cleon was the first who shouted on the public platform, who used abusive language and who spoke with his cloak girt about him, while all the others used to speak in proper dress and manner."
https://web.archive.org/web/20170913072 … 8C&pg=PA87
Negative Votes and Thumbs Down Votes might block the rabble-rouser Demagogues, there have been many types of Demagogue appearing since the times of Ancient Greece
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ranked choice would give power to a smaller party or a Kingmaker like Joe Lieberman? Lieberman lost the Democratic primary election but won re-election in the general election as a third party candidate under the Connecticut for Lieberman party label. In 2000, Lieberman was elected to a third Senate term, defeating the Republican candidate, Philip Giordano who later was a convicted criminal.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230906081 … nnecticut/ In April 2012, Lieberman announced that he would not make any public endorsements in the 2012 presidential election between President Obama and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. Lieberman authored at least ten books, Lieberman was a strong advocate for the war in Iraq.
Brexit legacy, Farage, David Cameron with Left British Labour opposition Jeremy Corbyn and Keir Starmer, a chaotic period with Scottish Nationalism, Welsh politics, the conservatives Theresa May and Boris Johnson, a quick rule and exit from Liz Truss followed by Rishi Sunak.
Animal Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo
'What is First Past The Post? - Voting, Simplified'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNc_o5P38rk
Positive and Negative Opinions expressed by votes?
To 'Dislike' maybe even say how you Hate a choice of candidate seems to be as natural as Liking or Loving a Candidate
In Switzerland the idea of Direct Democracy or pure democracy is a form of democracy in which the electorate decides on policy initiatives without elected representatives as proxies, a different system in the multi cultural Government of Singapore is defined by the Constitution of the Republic of Singapore to consist of the President and the Executive. The term "republic" encompassed both democracies and aristocracies. The republican form of government is a form of government often without a monarch and Republic democracies can be republics or constitutional monarchies. The Republic a Western political ideology that encompasses a range of ideas from civic virtue, political participation, harms of corruption, positives of mixed constitution, rule of law, it can ranges the rule of a representative minority or aristocracy to popular sovereignty. The Republic was the system of government that emerged in the 6th century BC or 6th century Before 'CE' following the expulsion of the kings from Rome by Lucius Junius Brutus and Collatinus, on the Indian Sub Continent and Hindu culture there was Vaishali, capital city of the Vajjika League of India, Vajjika League was a league of republican tribal states is considered one of the first examples of a republic around the 6th century BC, Iroquois Native Americas might have developed a form of democratic society, the Parliament of England had its roots in the restrictions on the power of kings written into Magna Carta, Revolutionary France adopted the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, New Zealand became one of the first country in the world to establish active universal suffrage by recognizing women. Democracy risks Kleptocracy, also referred to as thievocracy, corrupt leaders use political power to stealth the wealth and stay in power while Oligarchy another example of Democracy fialure, while an arrival of Autocrats would maintain power through political repression, the more typical Kleptocrat instances involve buying the government with Dollars or Gold or stocks or gifts, such as a politician taking a bribe, the Philippines under Pres. Ferdinand Marcos, and Indonesia under Pres. Suharto are widely considered kleptocratic.
The dominant form of democracy is representative democracy, where citizens elect government officials to govern on their behalf. According to the United Nations, democracy "provides an environment that respects human rights and fundamental freedoms, and in which the freely expressed will of people is exercised."
https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/democracy
A link to the family of Elon Musk the technocracy movement a social political movement active in the United States and Canada in the 1930s which favored technocracy as a system of government over representative democracy and concomitant partisan politics, some link it to engineer Howard Scott's Technical Alliance and Technocracy Incorporated, prior to the internal factionalism that dissolved the latter organization during the Second World War. The idea of 'Technocracy' was ultimately overshadowed by other proposals for dealing with the crisis of the Great Depression.
https://www.jstor.org/pss/3102180
Techies Have Been Trying to Replace Politicians for Decades
https://www.wired.com/2015/06/technocracy-inc/
Though little known today, the organization boasted over half a million members in California alone at its peak in the 1930s and `40s. Members painted their cars "Official Technocracy Gray," wore a uniform consisting of a gray double-breasted suits, and saluted Scott when they encountered him in person. At their most extreme, some members replaced their names with numbers, such as "1x1809x56," according to an essay published on, of all places, the US Social Security Administration website. In 1946, its members organized a massive motorcade, driving from Los Angeles to Vancouver, Canada, to get the word out about the movement.
In year 1933, Scott gave a speech about technocracy at New York's Hotel Pierre, before a live audience of 400, which was also broadcast on radio nationwide, it was called a "grave mistake", "disastrous", and "a complete failure"
https://web.archive.org/web/20081121122 … rint.shtml
questions about Health making both unpopular?
Biden and Trump: Here is what really matters in assessing whether they're cognitively up for the job
https://phys.org/news/2024-06-biden-tru … y-job.html
There are two types of decision-making: intuitive and deliberative.
2020 two unpopular US leaders in a contest for President of the USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jNL4VXxOnI
What is preferential voting and how does it work in Australian elections?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC_QqArDDiQ
The EU Parliament Election Results Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Oeruxq4BB0
EU Election Results Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM8QHYI2r5o
Meloni celebrates in Rome, but her power in the EU is limited
https://global.ilmanifesto.it/meloni-ce … s-limited/
Political decline of liberals: Why could Renew Europe see a major drop in MEPs after EU vote?
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/political-dec … 07629.html
electing 720 and a fragmentation of politics
France, Germany, Italy and Spain dominate the EU
coalition alliance bloc
1st EPP Center Rightwing-ish the largest and oldest group German, Spanish, Polish moved up 13 new seats.
2nd S&D 'Left' of Center, what America might class as Left 'Progressive' workers group Spanish, Italian, French lost 4 seats
3rd Centrist Renew Europe, Alliance of Liberals and pro-EU Democrats lost 19 seats
4th 'ECR' force Polish Spanish Law Justice Vox Conservatives and Reformists, a gain of 3 seats
5th Identity and Democracy - Nationalist Anti-EU the gain of 9 seats but Germany group was kicked out
6th the Group of 'Green' Environment Windmills Solar Panels lost 18 seats
7th A SocialRed looking 'Left' group
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