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#1 2004-10-14 16:08:40

Commodore
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Re: Russia wants assembly stations - To build Lunar and Mars ships

http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/ … tml]Russia to built new orbital platforms

Russia to Built New Orbital Platform
10/14/2004 15:20

Roskosmos chief Anatoly Perminov said at the International Space Congress in Vancouver that according to Russia's federal space program for 2006-2015, Russia is going to develop a new orbital basic platform available for cosmonauts.

Roskosmos cited Anatoly Perminov as saying that this platform will let continue and increase the researches currently conducted at the International Space Station. He adds, the new platform will combine the advantages of a manned complex and an unmanned space vehicle.

The Roskosmos chief said the new orbital platform "is particularly meant for development and tests of perspective interplanetary complexes and for testing the complex of new generation transport and hardware systems." The Roskosmos release reports that the complex will include a reusable system for orbiting freight and new braking mechanisms for freight delivery to the Earth and to planets.

Anatoly Perminov believes that assembly and launching of a manned complex to Moon and Mars must be done on the orbit. This in its turn requires creation of an assembly platform and an effective system to provide assembly operations with transport and hardware.

The Roskosmos chief reports Russian space research institutes and industrial companies have been working on the problem since 1960-70s. "Russia has a large scientific and technical reserve essential for such a global project," Anatoly Perminov says. For instance, various aspects of a Martian expedition are worked on now: organization of the expedition, flight routs, projects of an interplanetary complex, training and medical care of space crews, life-support systems and so on.

Russia is also experienced in organization of long manned flights. The Russian methods for selecting and training of cosmonauts, the effective medical care during space flights save health and efficiency of space crews.

However, Anatoly Perminov adds the interplanetary manned expedition demands joint efforts of countries with leading space technologies and great achievements. This is important for technical maintaining as well as for financial support of the project. The exact date of the project implementation depends upon several factors such as the scope on international cooperation, its technological, industrial and financial reserves, Anatoly Perminov concluded.

Throughs?

I think that there on the right track, though I hope that if there going to do it they'd compare notes with us. I also wonder were there going to get the money.

Also, is this the final nail in the ISS cofin? Were pulling out when its done, and I doubt the Russians will have the money to support that and build and support this.


"Yes, I was going to give this astronaut selection my best shot, I was determined when the NASA proctologist looked up my ass, he would see pipes so dazzling he would ask the nurse to get his sunglasses."
---Shuttle Astronaut Mike Mullane

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#2 2004-10-14 16:48:34

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Re: Russia wants assembly stations - To build Lunar and Mars ships

Interesting point to add that the ISS as originally planned was supposed to be a Hanger and assembly station for the return to the Moon and missions to Mars. It was only dumbed down after cost overuns. The orbit it is in reduces its capability to do this function and this was done only to allow the Russians to contribute. It is very ironic that the ISS is useless for a mission to the Moon and Mars assembly and suffers problems as its architecture was supposed to have the assembly dock in the center. And this was done at the request of the Russians and now they plan there own Assembly station.

If I was of a cynical mind I would say was this done deliberatly   ???


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#3 2004-10-14 19:10:21

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Re: Russia wants assembly stations - To build Lunar and Mars ships

Usually I am the one reading pravda even it is much like the enquirer, with its spectulation stories and sometimes total untruths.

I like the concept of making the most of the ISS and of using it for more than just doing some science experiments. I do feel that what goes up must be recycled and reused in other forms not wasted by sending it down by a progress dumpster. In fact the parts from these very same ships once properly recycled could even be used to build the very ship we would wish to go back to the moon in or onto mars.
A little creativity is all that is needed.

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#4 2022-05-29 12:34:21

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Re: Russia wants assembly stations - To build Lunar and Mars ships

Russia's war in Ukraine is threatening an outpost of cooperation in space
https://www.wxpr.org/2022-05-23/russias … n-in-space

Japanese astronaut welcome on NASA lunar Gateway, Biden says
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/ … eway-biden

Putin lays out priorities of Russia’s space program on Cosmonautics Day
https://www.spaceflightinsider.com/orga … utics-day/

“The super-heavy rocket, the first trial is planned in 10 years,” Putin said.

Putin also told the crowd that Russia has no intention of withdrawing from international cooperation in space. The statement came when tensions between Moscow and the West are rising and there are concerns that this growing tension could jeopardize international space projects, like the Lunar Orbital Platform-Gateway.

“We are not going to upset anything or to quit these programs. We are determined to complete them. We have partners in the exploration of Mars and the Moon – the United States, Canada, Japan, and the European Union,” Putin said.

Ukraine poised to join ESA and REPLACE ‘excluded’ Russia in space missions
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/ … e-missions

Russian TV claims Brits ‘on verge of cannibalism’ amid cost of living crisis
https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/26/brits-cl … -16715438/

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#5 2022-05-29 16:08:26

SpaceNut
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Re: Russia wants assembly stations - To build Lunar and Mars ships

We know how the challenge of cloning a shuttle went...they may have the pride but not the funds....

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#6 2024-04-07 11:49:16

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Re: Russia wants assembly stations - To build Lunar and Mars ships

They may eventually assemble some kind of station, will this be after India has a program with Hindu symbolism on their craft and stations, maybe South Korea will also have their own manned ideas

Putin Tours Space Expo in Bid for Russia's Own Space Station
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUaJ5UQUd64

a decaying space agency, they elected Putin expecting a strong man, a former KGB and patriot some said but the turned out to be a dictator and tyrant and does not give up power.

did not heed warnings of an incoming ISIS attack

a country focused on invasion, the battle field death tolls, a continued war in Ukraine and massive loss on both sides

However all that state the classic Soyuz rocket has been a great design for shipping people and medium payload

Soyuz MS-25 crew ship approaches the space station
https://flic.kr/p/2pG2eTt
Landing Day Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTmVrD2L50s

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