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China's plan for a human Moon landing in 2029 is detailed in this Dongfang Hour video.
https://twitter.com/marsboy/status/1687470467286700032

This episode performs a deep dive into the space hardware, the timelines, as well as a comparison with Apollo and Artemis. Go to: piped.video/I-KrMfIkDdg

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Why is the color of the Moon 'Red' in this pic, it almost seems to make it look a bit like a Communism Planet or maybe like Mars?

Here's an infographic I made on China's crewed lunar plans, covering the main phases of the mission

https://twitter.com/DongFangHour/status … 7512113152
This should give a good idea of what their Apollo-like approach will consist of.
(Trajectories are illustrative, in the absence of more detailed information).

Some other podcasts
https://spacewatch.global/region/asiapacific/china/
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/w … 0551688189
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https://podcast.dongfanghour.com/

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Workout in Tiangong Space Station

https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/ … 86233089#m

At the end of the video, the chief director mentioned that an upgraded Zhuque-2 with 4t capacity to LEO is planned to debut next year. AND, a new methane rocket with wider body is under design.

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/statu … 37787648#m

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Chang'e-7 will deploy a hopper that jumps into a crater in search of water ice

https://phys.org/news/2023-08-china-cha … rater.html

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Crewed lunar rocket CZ10 completed over 10,000 seconds of testing on its 130-tonne swing-pump engine. With modifications for dual ignition and deep throttling, the engine is designed for reusability, fulfilling rocket recovery and reuse needs.

https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/ … 0117359767

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At 0934 UTC today Galactic Energy conducted its first sea launch of its Ceres-1 solid rocket, successfully sending Tianqi satellites 21-24 into a ~800 km orbit. This is China's 1st private sea launch & 9 from 9 overall for Galactic Energy.

https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1699006964854927830

From one of the spectators

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/statu … 7023116415

Mission profile of Ceres-1S/Y1

https://twitter.com/raz_liu/status/1698941895928656189

New crewed spacecraft & lunar lander revealed! Spacecraft's designed for moon & low Earth orbit transport, featuring reusability. It can carry 3 astronauts to the moon, 7 to space stations. The lander can carry 2 to the lunar surface with a rover.

https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/ … 5942739087

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China Reveals Its Lunar Lander Design

https://www.universetoday.com/163047/ch … er-design/

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deep space communication

Mars, Moon, Jupiter +TW-X

China wants a lunar satellite constellation to support deep space missions
https://spacenews.com/china-wants-a-lun … -missions/

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Space Station Telescope, working with the French and using Astronauts or Taikonaut with past experience.

A new presentation by Shanghai Astronomical Observatory shows the building of Xuntian space telescope CSST flight model is planned to start in April, 2024
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/statu … 9292656054

Astronaut Yang Liwei revealed that Future moonwalkers will be chosen from experienced astronauts.
https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/ … 7661758673

Sino-French SVOM space X-ray telescope has completed environmental and vacuum tests at Chinese Academy of Sciences' premises in Shanghai. Launch set for March 2024.
https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1712775416878858339

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Next-generation rocket for China's manned space missions on track

https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Next … k_999.html

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CASC showcased an in-orbit manufacturing tech, with prototype printing 43m rod. Plans are in place to test this tech on future tech validation satellite soon.

https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/ … 3985500443

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any landing you can walk away from? Looks a little rough, maybe a tear in the chute

Shenzhou-16 team returns to Earth after 'happy, highly efficient' 154 days
https://www.manilatimes.net/2023/10/31/ … ys/1917296

https://twitter.com/wulei2020/status/17 … 7946449292

the tv on social media which is partially funded by the Chinese government seems to have slowed down the video in slow motion and put music to it not giving a true recording of the event in real time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLK66NX-9rU

Compare it to these vids where a blue shaped tear seems to be on the parachute and the capsule tumbles after landing

https://www.tiktok.com/@peoplesdaily_re … 8878971182
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiqQ1yC8SJc

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LOX/methane engine surpasses 10,000 seconds in reliability tests

https://youtu.be/EDoMDRO5MSs

metholox engine

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/statu … 3167033857

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A big development with Chinese reusable rockets and 'Mars Hoppers'?

SLS is perhaps too expensive

Chinese now has lots of 'new space' and Private Spaceflight ideas. They have a bunch of Space-X inspired Private Space flight Companies doing launch systems, people might have first noticed 'OneSpace' in China doing family of sounding type rockets early in 2019 but now least 10 such firms have emerged and far more advanced ambitions, iSpace just performed a 2nd hop test, Landspace could attempt their first soon

Altitude reached: 343.12m. Flight time:  63.15s. Translation: 50m.  Landing position accuracy: 0.295m. Landing velocity: 1.1m/s
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/VMf7at0s5w68UwqWvmHBkg

China’s reusable rocket race heats up with new hop test
https://spacenews.com/chinas-reusable-r … -hop-test/

Interesting discovery. It seems LANDSPACE ready for static fire & ~100m hop test of Zhuque-3 prototype stage, with a 3-leg support structure, flame deflector & landing pad already set up.
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/statu … 3530102068

Congratulations to LANDSPACE for the remarkable success of Zhuque-2 Y3! In July, it made history as the world's first LOX/CH4 rocket to achieve orbital launch, and now it sets another milestone as the first to successfully deploy payloads in orbit. Way to go Methane rocket!
https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/ … 3406469135

Commercial flights have been around a long time with US communications satellites but the pace of private flight is moving faster in recent years, the European Space Agency and Japanese were leaders but somewhat have fallen behind. MirCorp never got contracts with the Soyuz but Russians for a while launched space tourists, they won't be doing much with the War and Invasion of Ukraine and Sanctions. There are other new players on the launch scene from India and South Korea and people expect these places to grow in space feats. Virgin Orbit and Blue are surviving while Musk is going ahead with Starship, the Chinese seem to be the only ones with similar ambition to Elon Musk.

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China's SpaceX wannabe recycles a rocket after just 38 days

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Another hopper?
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/statu … 2062142844
JiuZhouYunJian's annual achievement summary shows their Lingyun metholox engine powered a hop test in 2023 & CASC's logo is on the rocket.

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China Has Built a Huge Space Simulation Chamber
https://www.universetoday.com/165979/ch … n-chamber/
The facility covers an area the size of 50 soccer fields, has four main laboratories and has the ability to tailor the environmental conditions based on research requirements.

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Chang’e-6 far side sample return mission launch: What to expect

https://www.planetary.org/articles/chan … -to-expect