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#151 2023-08-14 09:01:50

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Patriarch Kirill from Russia very close with Putin

persecution from state and church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGXsFh3nBLY

Russian Orthodox priests face persecution from state and church for supporting peace in Ukraine
https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/202 … iests-tfp/
When the war started, most priests remained silent, fearing pressure from the church and state authorities

an Arabic word that means initiating something without any precedent, in opposition to the Quran and Sunnah...sometimes defined as 'Blasphemy' or Sin or birkat hashem, against noble karma or faith of 'inviolability', the Monk or Rabbi or Preacher wanting modicum of respect, or takes an insult to something considered sacred by other cultures. The jihadi islamics bring it down to a whole other depraved sick level of violence, Muhammad was an Arab pedophile, a cult religious leader, a militant social leader, and political terrorist leader and the founder of islamism and muzslim faith, as described in their so-called holy books this mahomet or Mumammad he behaves much like the radicals of today do.

Pakistan teacher has been killed by militants for 'blasphemy' Balochistan. Rauf was accused of blasphemy by his own students while teaching them about  'gravity of earth'.

Man tortured and killed in Pakistan over ‘blasphemy’
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ … my-sialkot

A mob in Pakistan tortured, killed and then set on fire a Sri Lankan man who was accused of blasphemy.

Gravity is now Bid’ah? I’m lost here.
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/stat … 68700672#m
This is beyond belief in 2023.

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#152 2023-08-20 05:46:47

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Will Mars be Hindu? in a fictional tv show and books 'The Expanse' a woman 'Chrisjen Avasarala' plays a role as the President of Earth, the chief executive of the United Nations, she is part of an Indian political aristocracy on Earth.

Ramaswamy's emphasis on his belief in one God has a long history for Hindus in the United States
https://web.archive.org/web/20230713041 … tianj.html

https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/sta … 4490060817

TRUTH.


1. God is real.
2. There are two genders.
3. Human flourishing requires fossil fuels.
4. Reverse racism is racism.
5. An open border is no border.
6. Parents determine the education of their children.
7. The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.
8. Capitalism lifts people up from poverty.
9. There are three branches of the U.S. government, not four.
10. The U.S. Constitution is the strongest guarantor of freedoms in history.

sometimes in reaction people accuse politicians of being celebrity and actor type

Yet some fans around the world took the tv, movie,. scifi entertainment casting very serious?

Jedi-ism is classed as a true religion in some nations like Australia

Why are Indians mad that The Expanse’s Chrisjen Avasarala is portrayed by Iranian-American actress Shohreh Aghdashloo?
https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Indians-m … Aghdashloo

India Hindu culture however might be expanding

Vivek Ramaswamy's Hindu faith is front and center in his US presidential campaign
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne … 91150.html
Vivek Ramaswamy, a Hindu entrepreneur and Republican presidential candidate, is steadily gaining support in a party dominated by conservative Christians.


There is no doubt there has been a massive expansion of Indian Sub Continent Desi culture in North America, however if all the religious element comes with them has yet to be seen. There are names in politics, business, the legal system and media and even now a Vice President, names like Dinesh D'Souza, Abhijit Banerjee, Fareed Zakaria, Siddhartha Mukherjee, Ravinder Bhalla, Nikki Haley or Nimarata Randhawa, Kamala Harris, Nicholas Jagan Ranjan, Amul Thapar, Astronauts and athletes like Olympic medalist Mohini Bhardwaj, Jagmeet Singh in Canada a practicing Sikh of Punjabi descent, Singh is an Indo-Canadian. There are also huge numbers of Overseas Indians that moved after the collapse of former British Colonies and Dutch Colony, places like Trinidad and Tobago, Singapore, Overseas islands of France, South Africa, Mauritius, Israel, Phillipines, Suriname in South America these overseas populations are in the millions. For Sri Lankans it seem at least 10% adhere to some form of jihadi islamism culture or muslim faith mostly from the Moor and Malay ethnic communities, the Hindu culture of Pakistan and Bangladesh seems to vanish. However it is unknown if Indians will fully bring their religion cultures with them, the faiths of Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, and Sikhism, Shaiva Siddhanta  a form of Shaivism popular in South India and Sri Lanka, Tamils, who practice Hinduism and have their own language some took offense and even launched suicide bombers and in India itself there are some other faith which are also classified as Eastern Pagan religions, Hinduism in Sri Lanka was practiced by Native Kings before their conversion to Buddhism. There is the question of assimilation of cultures from Mexico and islamic regions but maybe Hindu-Americans won't be Hindu and be as American as anyone else?

the British India culture and Rishi Sunak's Conservatives

'Sunak: My Hindu faith guides me'
https://www.gg2.net/sunak-my-hindu-faith-guides-me-2/


but if this is a traditional culture war


How can you Conserve what is already Lost??


Can the Conservatives ever win back London?
https://www.cityam.com/can-the-conserva … ck-london/


Surprising reasons why Vivek Ramaswamy is rising in Republican polls
https://nypost.com/2023/07/26/why-vivek … ial-polls/

Hindu Faith Is Front and Center in His GOP Presidential Campaign
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states … l-campaign

Republican millennial’s faith-based presidential run mixes Hindu and Judeo-Christian values (paywall)

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 … -run-mixe/

Vivek Ramaswamy is running to become the nation’s first Hindu president

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#153 2023-08-26 05:39:57

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Religion or Authoritarian?

Mother is arrested in Bangladesh after son in the U.S. criticizes government online
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mother-arres … 19665.html

B.C. homicide squad identifies suspects' vehicle in Surrey Sikh leader's murder
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-new … ers-murder

In the Indian Sub Continent an old religion of over a Billion people and a very confusion way of life, it looks like a weird Beatles LSD Mushroom trip a guy who looks like an Elephant and eternal traditions. Perhaps it has no single founder, the Vedic period were Vedas composed in Sanskrit. It could be 4000 years old or 6,000 years old nobody is really sure but it is probably the oldest religion of them all. The concept of time and India and Sanskrit and Indus and the most basic elements have lots and lots of debate of what is real and genuine. A Super God Brahma in painting and picture might have three heads like a Cerberus, or Freemason Jahbulon or Chimera but he is painted like a guy. There is no true leader and no one method or one way there are many people with many interpretation. There might be Polytheism and a Pantheon of Gods but there is also described at times 'One God' there is Shiva and Vishnu, it might be Monotheism it might not be. It can be said to be a less 'dogmatic' religion many ideas like Astrology, there is Dharma proper good behavior causing the Universe to Balance, Hindus might seek one true or one truth of reality. There is an idea of an Immortal Soul Atman, a reincarnation or Transmigration, or a belief Brahaman Universe Material Mega God Ocean Soul also 'Karma' and 'Vedas', time is a cycle with no beginning and no end and something about going from unreal to real or 'Mohskha' and bad morality leads to the destruction of reality or Kali Yuga? There is a Caste System and series of Social Classes, Priests, Nobles, Commoners and Slave like Servant or Lower and Lowest Castes and Lower of the Lowest of the Low the 'Untouchables'. If something bad happens to you well maybe you or your family did something bad in a previous life.


Maybe an activist

Atheist 'Reading Bhagavad Gita - Part 6'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvvAr3CGjhA


'What Vivek Ramaswamy gets about communicating with US citizens — and other Hindu Americans don’t'
https://www.firstpost.com/opinion/what- … 26812.html

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#154 2023-08-26 05:45:38

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Although Japan is classed as a peaceful society both religions had violence and flaws and supported a system of caste

they might have 'Swastika' symbols but this has nothing to do with Hitler as the Nazis had hijacked other symbols that existed long before WW2, perhaps in weird a twist of irony Japan did ally itself with Italy and Germany but the original Swastika has existed in Native American culture, Pagan Viking Culture, Jewish culture, in Indian Sanskrit in Jain religious symbolism, African and Byzantine art works and in Japan for thousands of years, some have speculated that it is from long ago and simply represents the north pole and Ursa Major, Big Dipper or the 'Plough' moving through the seasons it was also seen as a "bear" in Greek, Indian and Siberian tradition. In Vietnamese the name is T'he Big Rudder Stars' the Dipper sometimes describes a bird but it is cup-shaped vessel with a long handle, for dipping out liquids, in Chinese the name literally means Northern Dipper. Some suggest it is a symbol of lightning and it is interesting that René Guénon links the swastika to the North Star.

edit 2 main religions mixed up together

'Shintoism and Buddhism'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InkbF4VtKbk

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#155 2023-08-26 06:00:36

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Pro-jihad media outlet calls for beheading of Qur’an burner, invokes Muhammad calling for massacre of his critics
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2023/08/pro- … is-critics

Is it possible to be an atheist but still practice Judaism? Reform Rabbi from New Jersey
https://njjewishnews.timesofisrael.com/ … -together/

What will keep the peace between Israel and the Arabs is not treaties, as Vivek Ramaswamy seems to think
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2023/08/what … s-to-think

The Abandoning of Religion has Literalised the World
https://medium.com/@doyouthinkihaveforg … 803c806a04

Colorado: Muslim who murdered ten people in supermarket in 2021 ruled competent to stand trial
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2023/08/303732

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#156 2023-09-16 04:19:32

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Buddhist Monk-turned-gym Trainer: Bangladeshi Man Lands In ATS Net For Illegal Stay
https://www.republicworld.com/india-new … eshow.html
The accused had crossed the Indian border as a Buddhist monk before 2010

Swiss govt aids man arrested in Myanmar over film 'harming Buddhism'
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/26325 … g-buddhism
Didier Nusbaumer, 52, was arrested on August 8 for writing and directing a film "which could harm the morality and dignity of Buddhist monks"

Recently ordained New York priest arrested over charges of sexual abuse of minor
https://www.ncronline.org/news/recently … buse-minor
A Catholic priest ordained just over four years ago for the Diocese of Syracuse, New York

Jeffrey Epstein's remote ranch 'visited by Prince Andrew' sold - and Ghislaine may benefit
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/18 … ly-visited

Charlie Hebdo's lawyer: 'Penalizing Quran burnings means embarking on an extraordinarily dangerous path'
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/artic … 10_23.html

Preaching at the Western wall & Jewish quarter “Day of police & persecution” Jerusalem, part 5 of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OefcSxBH5MI

Will Mormonism get to Mars or will it die with guys like Romney?

One of the most well known faces of Mormonism the Latter Day Saint movement

Mitt Romney condemns ‘demagogue’ Trump as he announces retirement
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … ment-trump

I'm not sure you can blame a single rabble-rouser, when Trumpism, anti-Global seems to be an entire movement in motion even before the US President Donald Trump came along,  Trumpists and Trumpian are terms used to refer to those exhibiting characteristics of Trumpism, the President Trump in campaign took something  like Government shutdown movement or Gadsden flag Tea Party Protest already moving and perhaps made it all into a bigger movement, Trump also was a skilled tv speaker, manipulator, quick wit and played to his base calling out the illiberal type.

It might be wrong to only class Trump as a ‘demagogue’ maybe this is why many US Republicans did not see him winning in 2016.

Over time Romney has become less popular with the Republican base, he was the lone Republican to vote to convict Donald Trump in his first impeachment trial, he supported gun control, marched alongside Antifa and Black Lives Matter protestors, voted to confirm Ketanji Brown Jackson a woman who worked with islamist terrorists and can't define a man or a woman to the Supreme Court.

Romney failed in his run for president of the United States in the 2012 election, losing to incumbent Barack Obama.

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#157 2023-09-18 17:36:43

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Intelligence suggests agents of India behind killing of B.C. Sikh leader: Trudeau

https://globalnews.ca/news/9968980/bc-s … elligence/

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‘It’s time to abolish celibacy,’ says president of Swiss Bishops’ Conference

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/- … e/48835488

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