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#601 2023-07-07 08:24:38

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California governor urges US to probe Florida's transport of migrants out of state

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/califo … 023-07-06/

Sound of Freedom: gritty child-trafficking film proves surprise hit
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/soun … -s6mnvj620

And yet the gritty child-trafficking thriller billed as the “film Hollywood did not want you to see” has defied all expectations, beating Harrison Ford’s movie

Europe wants Latin America on side against Vladimir Putin. Good luck with that

https://www.politico.eu/article/south-a … sia-china/

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#602 2023-08-04 16:43:13

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Re: South of the Border Politics

Killing of American biologist in Mexico adds to rising violence against scientists there: 3rd fatal incident involving researchers studying the environment in different parts of Mexico in recent years

https://news.mongabay.com/2023/08/killi … in-mexico/

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#603 2023-08-16 05:56:17

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Re: South of the Border Politics

Robert Kennedy Jr.: "Cartels Are Now Running The Border," "They Advertise Around The Globe"
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video … order.html

How many miles of border wall did Donald Trump build? It depends on how it’s counted
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol … 569860007/

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#604 2023-08-20 08:55:21

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The Row Hotel in NYC
Migrants fight outside the hotel, and then the fight makes its way into the hotel. Reports are coming in that glass was everywhere in the lobby due to the fight
This was sent in by a source
https://twitter.com/ViralNewsNYC/status … 0008622247


Gov. Pillen to visit Nebraska National Guard soldiers at US-Mexico border
https://journalstar.com/news/state-regi … ea225.html


Americans by wide margins support the death penalty for drug smugglers and human traffickers
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … egals.html

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#605 2023-08-27 19:06:39

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Boat captain bringing at least 14 migrants into Florida busted after ramming sheriff’s boat: officials

https://nypost.com/2023/08/25/captain-s … officials/

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#606 2023-09-07 12:50:01

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NYC Mayor Warns Influx of Illegal Immigrants Will 'Destroy' the City: 'I Don't See an Ending to This'
https://ijr.com/nyc-mayor-warns-influx- … ee-ending/

New Border Footage Shows Children Unresponsive During Border Patrol Stop
Real America’s Voice Correspondent AgueroForTexas shares a disturbing report from the southern border where children were unresponsive during a Border Patrol stop.
https://twitter.com/RealAmVoice/status/ … 45668096#m
Aguero says experts have warned that children being trafficked across the border are being drugged with Rohypnol to keep them from alerting authorities that the people with them aren’t their parents.

PamelaGeller - Sanctuary City Mayor Eric Adams Declares Illegal Immigration ‘Will Destroy’ NYC
https://gettr.com/post/p2q37xa2405

Mexico installs Berlin Wall fragment near US border as Biden adds barriers
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/nationa … s/4645877/

May 2023


Biden officials accused of 'coordinating' illegal immigration flows with Mexico
https://www.bitchute.com/video/jg0W6ta6Od0/

Cities far from US-Mexico border still grapple with migrant crisis
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65539701


ISIS Slipping Past Homeland Security in U.S.
https://rumble.com/v3d9wk9-sekulow-live.html

"I don't see an ending to this," Adams said.
https://gettr.com/post/p2q31w81d59
New York City Mayor Eric Adams warned that the migrant crisis under the Biden administration will "destroy" his city, pointing out that he doesn't see an end to the problem.

They are bringing IEDs across the Southern Border?

Border patrol agents found this near Fronton, Texas. McAllen Police assisted agents with the recovery of this homemade explosive…
https://twitter.com/AgueroForTexas/stat … 1567919446

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#607 2023-09-17 04:42:00

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Re: South of the Border Politics

Minnesota begins process for issuing driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants under new law
https://www.foxnews.com/us/minnesota-be … ts-new-law

Sumas Mountain on the US West Coast is a mountain located in Whatcom County, Washington sometimes referred to as American Sumas to distinguish it from an identically named mountain across the Canada–United States border.

3 undocumented immigrants rescued after being abandoned on a mountain in Whatcom County
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/3-undo … 49606.html
Three undocumented immigrants were rescued from the mountains near Sumas after they were abandoned by a human smuggler

Poland bans entry of vehicles with Russian license plates
https://news.yahoo.com/poland-bans-entr … 00617.html

Eric Adams slashes New York City budget yet again as cost of immigration crisis rises
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news … igrant-aid

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#608 2023-09-18 03:13:09

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Ferromex train that operates in Mexico

https://twitter.com/GriffJenkins/status … 6985542989

cheering and clearly not heeding the message: “do not come”

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#609 2023-09-18 17:40:47

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Latin American some of the political leaders declare how anti-imperialistic they are, but cozy up to the imperialist Russia?

deals and free dictatorship lessons

Mexican president defends inclusion of Russian military contingent in Independence parade
https://apnews.com/article/mexico-russi … 33891d6f22

NYPD deployed plainclothes unit to catch pickpockets in New York

https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/sta … 1470764476

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#610 2023-09-23 10:41:23

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Jacobin website the same name as an American political magazine based in New York, the magazine would offer 'socialist' perspectives on politics, economics and culture. The Jacobin before the magazine was a member of the Jacobin Club, it spreads to England from France, Thomas Paine was a believer in the French Revolution a French revolutionary political movement, the early  Democratic-Republican party were described as Jacobins, the magazine was bought by a man Bhaskar Sunkara of Hindi Indian ancestry who had migrated to the US from Trinidad and Tobago who said as a kid he was interested in the lessons of Animal Farm he developed an interest in Leon Trotsky.

'Eric Adams Is Playing a Dangerous Game With Migrants'
https://jacobin.com/2023/09/eric-adams- … king-class

Furious Residents Attempt to Block Bus of Illegal Immigrants, but NYPD Clears the Way With Multiple Arrests
https://ijr.com/furious-residents-attem … e-arrests/

Hochul says New York has reached a limit with its immigrant crisis
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news … ant-crisis

Finger-pointing and frustration over migrant crisis leads to a total breakdown between White House and NYC mayor
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/01/politics … index.html

Eric Adams slams Biden for not meeting, ignoring migrant crisis on NYC visit: 'Everybody knows where I am'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/eric-a … where-i-am

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#611 2023-10-02 05:27:07

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Elon Musk visits Texas border crossing on X livestream ‘to see what is really going on’

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-vis … 13582.html

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#612 2023-10-22 05:32:33

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Re: South of the Border Politics

Venezuelans become largest nationality for illegal border crossings as September numbers surge
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ven … -104197521

Afghan Refugees Return Home as Pakistan Threatens Arrests, Expulsions
https://www.voanews.com/a/afghan-refuge … 19841.html

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#613 2023-11-23 10:28:17

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Have seen many an article from the cold areas of the country that have indicated that immigrants are choosing to head back home as it's not been the dream that they had come for.
Fed-up migrants who trekked thousands of miles to US already heading home: ‘American Dream doesn’t exist’

Some of this was due to Migrants coming to the US have overwhelmed cities, including Chicago, New York and El Paso

welcome to living like the rest of the American homeless...
5f3df491-026d-42f2-823e-69127aeea05d-20230915_164617.jpg?width=660&height=372&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp

For those that come the ability to get legs under them is part of the ability to work, drive to get better jobs and more. With no registration system what they came with is not enough to get set up in a 60 day period. But for all that come not enough seem to be leaving as the help must not have run out for them.

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#614 2023-11-25 11:16:21

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Sanctuary cities are facing a "nightmare winter," and some are taking extraordinary steps

They were created to give a means to adjust but instead they did not. With the onset of winter cold and the inn being full they have not done enough to support oneself.
One way mto solve an issue of housing
New York City will pay homeowners up to $395,000 to build an extra dwelling in their garage or basement to help ease the housing shortage

Massachusetts is creating overnight shelter spots to help newly arriving migrant families

Massachusetts has begun awarding grants to local agencies to set up temporary housing sites for homeless families as officials grapple with finding newly arriving migrants places to stay after hitting a state-imposed limit of 7,500 families in the state’s emergency homeless shelter system.

update due to the large surge of immigrants heading north through Mexico into the US.
Texas is sending asylum seekers to major cities by bus with little notice. These mayors want to pump the brakes
Hence the point of issuing an identification process called DACA to which now we can identy whom is here.

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#615 2023-11-25 17:57:14

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Biden thanks Mexican president after arrest of suspected cartel security chief
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/biden- … 48141.html

The US sanctions Mexican Sinaloa cartel members and firms over fentanyl trafficking
https://english.elpais.com/usa/2023-11- … cking.html

Biden struggles to find his message on immigration
https://www.aol.co.uk/motoring/biden-st … 00661.html

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#616 2023-12-05 13:55:45

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People from all over the world at the US-Mexico border

https://twitter.com/BillMelugin_/status … 7398466870

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#617 2023-12-05 19:23:51

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For Mars_B4_Moon .... over the weekend, I caught a report on Chinese citizens (or more accurately ** one ** such citizen) bringing his young daughter with him on a very risky journey through Central America to the Mexican border, and on into the US.  This individual was persecuted in China because he is a Christian, and made the mistake of leaving a Bible out in view on the car seat, when he was stopped for a minor traffic violation.  The gent and his daughter survived and are living in the US.  He is sending a small amount of money home to his wife and other children.  He isn't making a lot of money, but he seems satisfied that he can criticize something without being persecuted.  On the other hand, apparently he isn't in the mood to criticize much of anything. It's just the thought of being ** able ** to that he likes.

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#618 2023-12-14 03:59:27

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FOX sources capture tens of thousands of migrants attempting to catch a train in Mexico 3 hours south of Piedras Negras bound for the U.S. border where BP agents are already overwhelmed with unprecedented numbers

https://twitter.com/GriffJenkins/status … 8691438935

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#619 2023-12-24 15:57:44

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Arriving soon at the US Border

France grounds Romanian plane carrying 303 Indian nationals under suspicion of 'human trafficking' then after Paris it was Bound for Nicaragua.

carrying 303 Indian citizens, including 11 non-accompanied minors

The plane, belonging to Legend Airlines, a company based in Romania, was on its way from the United Arab Emirates to Nicaragua and had stopped over at Vatry airport, roughly 150 kilometers east of Paris, for supply, according to the Prosecutor’s Office.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/12/23/euro … index.html

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#620 2023-12-29 20:37:36

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Benjamin Rich, he was kicked out of Russia and banned, better known online as bald and bankrupt

'The migrant crises along the USA's southern border has become a hot topic over the last few years with what seems to be an endless stream of people flooding across the border'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Ml16_0Kqk

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#621 2023-12-31 13:01:00

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One area of the identification is the Real ID to which this was proposed to better track who was able to vote.
Here's what you need to know about REAL ID heading into 2024
It still is not being used by all states.

anyone 18 years old and above will be required to present a REAL ID-compliant driver's license or identification card to fly domestically or visit a federal facility. Designated by a star and surrounding gold circle, REAL IDs are being issued in all 50 states.

But officials say not everyone needs a REAL ID. A valid U.S. passport is also a compliant REAL ID document, Illinois officials previously said, and can be used to fly domestically after the deadline.

Here's what to know about getting a REAL ID, and why you'll soon need some version of a REAL ID to board a domestic flight.

This also included a non-driver's version as well.

According to the Department of Homeland Security, the REAL ID Act, passed by Congress in 2005, "establishes minimum security standards for state-issued driver's licenses and identification cards and prohibits certain federal agencies from accepting for official purposes licenses and identification cards from states that do not meet these standards."

you would think enough time has passed to get on board.

Whom is the one that controls the US border seems to be a national security issue as the Texas governor is blocking border patrol from doing their job. As far as I can see a state is in control of state-to-state borders that do not overlap the territorial US borders.

The issue is undue racism to people of color subjected to constant scrutiny regarding their immigration status—and to the demeaning experience of criminal arrest and detention. Although there are no laws that require you to show identification — typically a driver's license — reality is a tougher cookie to chew. The courts have upheld ID requirements when safety and security are at issue, such as boarding a plane or entering a secure building. Most Americans carry a variety of identification cards. Some have a military ID, others a veteran's card, others an insurance card, some a university identification card and so on. Each has bits of information that is specific to the carrier. So as to be able to make use of rights to the individual.

Immigrants have no such ID when the only type that matter are those issued by the state, US agencies and companies that require them for use. So, they have not the rights to do these things and should not get benefits to the same just because they enter with empty hands claiming any form of asylum. The question then is what to do after the individual does the time for illegal entry?

penalty of entry
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
https://www.aclu.org/wp-content/uploads … ERSION.pdf

All told then this is a US law and not state border issue and crime.

Biden administration sends Texas cease-and-desist letter on border access

So what is wrong with the processing of illegals comes down to back log of those that were given due process. Fueled by unprecedented border crossings, a record 3 million cases clog US immigration courts

So, what documents giving them permission is the only form of ID these people have and those are not for that purpose.

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#622 2024-01-04 12:41:07

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Johnson Visits Border, Turning Up Heat on Biden for an Immigration Deal
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/03/us/p … ation.html

Fentanyl could disrupt the Australian drug market like cocaine and methamphetamine
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/ … 58ad59af3f

New drug stronger than heroin or fentanyl kills 54 in six months
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-n … l-28266228

Trump is a trainwreck, but Americans look at the border and think Biden is worse
https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion … 998361007/

Biden’s border crisis brings crime and no punishment
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bidens- … punishment

Trump vows to ‘terminate every open borders policy’ on day one, mass deport illegals
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2024/01/04 … s-1424808/

The Utter Insanity of Joe Biden’s Open Border
https://amgreatness.com/2024/01/02/the- … en-border/
If the amorality of illegal immigration were not so deleterious to Americans, its absurdity would be laughable.
By Victor Davis Hanson

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#623 2024-01-15 13:23:05

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Republicans Just Proved They Don't Want a Border Solution

Last week, Oklahoma Republican Senator James Lankford was tasked by Mitch McConnell to negotiate a bipartisan compromise to fix the issues at the southern border and the asylum system overall. Lankford negotiated a sweeping package of reforms and additional funding with Chuck Schumer, only to see it summarily rejected by Speaker Johnson and House Republicans before they even had the details.

The problem for House Republicans and their Orange Master is that their voting base has been fed a steady diet of propaganda that has them in full panic mode over the brown people. Trump has told them as many as 12 million migrants have entered the country in the last 3 years, and they are all terrorists, rapists, murderers and drug traffickers who have come from prisons and mental institutions around the world.

So, the base wants something done now to stop what they have been told is happening. That is why Republican leaders are spending so much time trying to convince their own voters that there is nothing in the new compromise that will stem the flow of migrants or increase deportations.

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#624 2024-02-12 18:38:43

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Words and meaning seem have become lost in the current USA border which is not a state-to-state border and not another that contacts a nation which is a federal border.

As it should be Obama-Appointed Judge Throws Out Illegal Aliens’ Lawsuit Against Texas where "their claims, not only would illegal aliens have free rein to enter and remain in Texas and the U.S., but free rein to commit crimes without consequence"

Which is why criminal are not allowed to stay in my reading that the illegal aliens’ detention under the operation of capture and charged for entry did not breach the constitutional rights of the person.

NY, Vermont, New Hampshire see record border crossings from Canada 295-mile stretch country's border with Canada - compared to its less than 2,000 milelong frontier; with Mexico - is more than 5,000 miles long.

It also has just 115 ports of entry - compared with the Southern Border's 330 - meaning massive swathes are understaffed, and are perfect places for opportunists to pass through.

Built the fence and increase staff to get same miles to entry port ratio. Increase state border staffing which is none to capture escapes.

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Johnson has indicated that he will not allow consideration of the bill, which the Senate passed on Tuesday by a vote of 70-29, because it does not contain measures to deal with the U.S.-Mexico border.

House Republicans Fret Over Discharge Petition Against Mike Johnson

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