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SpaceNut

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Re: 202*? and then there might be 2 stations in LEO

I am hoping that in time more than just those current under construction will be available as that will drive to space costs down.

Mars_B4_Moon

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Re: 202*? and then there might be 2 stations in LEO

Gateway coming, currently in orbit the ISS, with NASA, Russia Roscosmos, ESA, Canada CSA, Japan JAXA. People are unsure what is happening with Russia or if it will be part of future missions again.

China was banned from the ISS and they made their own Tiangong space station

Voyager Space and Airbus create commercial space station joint venture
https://spacenews.com/voyager-space-and … t-venture/

Airbus forms joint venture in bid to replace International Space Station
https://www.ft.com/content/a663537b-57b … 38e57b9d54

Airbus partners with Voyager Space to build ISS replacement
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Airb … t_999.html
Airbus and US space exploration firm Voyager Space announced Wednesday a joint venture to develop Starlab, a commercial alternative to replace the International Space Station (ISS) by the end of the decade. The US-led venture with footing in Germany, where a number of Airbus Defence and Space sites are located, will "reliably meet the known demand from global space agencies while opening new opportunities for commercial users," Matthew Kuta, president of Voyager Space, said in a statement.

Exciting updates from Starlab! We've completed the station-level System Requirements Review with Nanoracks & AirbusSpace, a milestone in developing the next-gen continuously crewed, free-flying space station under NASA's Commercial LEO Dev. program
https://twitter.com/VoyagerSH/status/16 … 2074163200

twitter
https://twitter.com/VoyagerSH/status/16 … 8702784513
We’re pleased to announce that AirbusSpace has joined the Starlab team as a key international partner. Our vision is to create the most accessible infrastructure in space to serve the scientific community & this is a big step in achieving that goal.

Other possible happenings in the future, Russian Orbital Service Station but Putin seems to be putting more effort into imperialism and war. The ISRO Space Station (ISS) is a planned space station to be constructed by India and operated by Indian Space Research Organisation.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/science/ … 87541.html

Bezos still has a lot of money and Orbital Reef a planned low Earth orbit (LEO) space station designed by Blue Origin and Sierra Nevada Corporation's Sierra Space for commercial space activities and space tourism uses.

Grypd

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Re: 202*? and then there might be 2 stations in LEO

You have to remember that the ISS sections "belonging" to ESA were supposed to be a lot more able to operate independent to the rest of the station. This was thouroughly nixed by NASA so now with a new station needed that gives ESA a chance to put in its previous intentions

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tahanson43206

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Re: 202*? and then there might be 2 stations in LEO

For Grypd re #103

It is good to see you back on the board after the recent outage!

I waited a day to see if anyone would pick up on your post.

Please consider reporting on any news you may be able to find about ESA thinking about a station.  I get the impression that as a consensus organization, ESA may not be able to innovate quickly, but even a group working with consensus can achieve at a high level, as they have demonstrated. 

FYI ... assuming you've not been following the forum closely in recent times, SpaceNut is offline due to hardware issues.  He does check in by smartphone from time to time.

I note your having been a member of an early Wave of NewMars members, from 2004.

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Mars_B4_Moon

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Re: 202*? and then there might be 2 stations in LEO

Overview Of China’s Tiangong Space Station

https://spaceref.com/space-stations/ove … e-station/

As planned, by 11 launches and on-orbit missions, China has completed the assembly and started the official operation of the space station. With the completion and operation of the Tiangong space station, China will become the third country able to build and operate space stations independently after the Soviet Union and the United States. While operating the space station, China will make pioneering contributions to the peaceful use of space for mankind. In a research paper recently published in Space: Science & Technology, specialists from Institute of Spacecraft System Engineering, China Academy of Space Technology introduce the design of the Tiangong space station, summarize the technical characteristics of the Tiangong space station, and discuss the future application and development of the Tiangong space station.

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Re: 202*? and then there might be 2 stations in LEO

11 now in orbit on the ISS and China's Tiangong typically staffed with a crew of 3 people but capable of supporting up to 6 people, maybe soon the Lunar  'Gateway' and Private Stations

SpaceX Dragon spacecraft docks at ISS with astronauts from four countries
https://metro.co.uk/2023/08/28/spacex-d … -19405716/

With NASA’s mobile launcher on the move, here’s a road map to Artemis II
https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/08/n … rtemis-ii/

Hindu news in 2019 reported that ISRO chairman said India will not join the International Space Station and will instead build a 20 tonne space station, Orbital Reef the planned low Earth orbit (LEO) space station, Starlab a name given to the planned LEO (low earth orbit) and reports of Axiom Station, a potential future space station.

https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/scien … 898707.ece

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Orbital islands no more? another partnership is on the rocks

Blue Origin, Sierra Space weigh future of Orbital Reef space station as partnership turns rocky
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/28/blue-or … limbo.html

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China able, ready to invite foreign astronauts to its space station

https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Chin … n_999.html

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youngest crew

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2023-10-25/C … index.html

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NASA acknowledges possibility of short-term post-ISS gap

https://spacenews.com/nasa-acknowledges … t-iss-gap/

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Re: 202*? and then there might be 2 stations in LEO

Some happy moody melancholy patriot music in the background of the vid

Crew's Spacewalk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qouunBoTVoA

Mars_B4_Moon

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Re: 202*? and then there might be 2 stations in LEO

'The Exp 70 crew kept busy on Wednesday as they focused on station upkeep and routine hearing assessments.'

https://twitter.com/Space_Station/statu … 9711074668

ISS REGENERATIVE LIFE SUPPORT: CHALLENGES AND SUCCESS IN THE QUEST FOR LONG-TERM HABITABILITY IN SPACE
https://web.archive.org/web/20150216085 … 013479.pdf
"long-term deficit of water"

Water Leaks
• Multiple failures caused water to enter cabin
– Toxicity varies from low (de-iodinated water) to moderate
(urine)
• Common leak paths are through seals, Quick
Disconnects (QDs), etc
– QD leaks can be mitigated by keeping QDs connected
– Seal leaks usually terminal to ORU and requires replacement
with proper seals
• Water bags tend to leak around fittings when mishandled

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Re: 202*? and then there might be 2 stations in LEO

CNSA/CMS astronaut team has had 15 astronauts complete extravehicular activities / spacewalks

https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/ … 1243153480

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Mitsubishi takes stake in Starlab Space
https://spacenews.com/mitsubishi-takes- … lab-space/

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China’s Shenzhou-18 crew arrive at Tiangong space station

https://spacenews.com/chinas-shenzhou-1 … e-station/

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Re: 202*? and then there might be 2 stations in LEO

Artemis, Gateway and China

'Beyond ISS: America must lead in LEO, cislunar and beyond'

https://spacenews.com/beyond-iss-americ … nd-beyond/