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More violence in the name of the Moongod al-Lah

Pre-Islamic Arabia in Mecca and the Arabian Peninsula, is the period prior to the emergence of Islamism and the followers of Mahomet in 610 AD or 610 CE. Kaaba idol worship may be an older temple confiscated by mohammedans, originally a Shiva Temple: Kaaba or Shiva Lingam or some pre-islamic Moongod?  Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, and Yemen were a centerpoint between the Byzantine and Sasanian Empires mixed with Jew culture, Roman culture and Pagan Arab cultures, and the Kingdom of Aksum or Axum and this position helped to shape its history and culture. One feature of pre-Islamic Arabia was the combination of cultures, languages and stone art tradition. The the veneration of selected stones. Shaped rocks called betyls are found at the Nabataean sites of Petra and Madain Salih. Some pre islamic  common forms of devotion that were hijacked and became those very same rituals included animal sacrifice, and pilgrimages to sacred spaces; the Kaaba was one of these sanctuaries. A female Moongod Al-Lat, Sin, Hubul, a god of rainfall and war, Hindu or Indian culture was spread along an ancient silk road deep into Arabia.

'Shiva Lingam – Some Scientific Truths'
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index. … ic-truths/

It would seem muslims unknown to themselves kiss the anus, penis and vagina an old god of death or lunar cycles, they kiss the genitals and anus of an almost extinct Hindu Babylon Moongod?

Vedic Past of Pre-Islamic Arabia and its influence
https://www.sanskritimagazine.com/histo … influence/

The Lingam is shaped like an egg and represents the ‘Brahmanda’ or the cosmic egg. There are two types of Shiva Lingam. One is a black meteorite egg-shaped stone. It is said that such a stone is installed at Kabba in Mecca. The other one is man-made and is solidified mercury. Solidifying mercury is an ancient Vedic science

Police probing 'online threat' made to JK Rowling after Salman Rushdie tweet
https://www.thenational.scot/news/20645 … die-tweet/

Harry Potter author, 57, shared screenshots of a message from a user who had written “don’t worry you are next” in response to her tweet about Rushdie.

Rowling had said she felt “very sick” after hearing the news and hoped the novelist would “be OK”.

After sharing screenshots of the threatening tweet, she said: “To all sending supportive messages: thank you Police are involved (were already involved on other threats).”

A Police Scotland spokeswoman said: “We have received a report of an online threat being made and officers are carrying out enquiries.”

The same Twitter account also posted messages praising the man who attacked Rushdie on stage in New York state.

The tweet to Rowling, which came from an account in Pakistan

So Pakistan that wonderful US 'ally' country that hid bin Laden

No. 1 Nation in Sexy Web Searches? Call it Pornistan

The country also tops -- or has been No. 1 -- in searches for "sex," "camel sex," "rape video," ...and some other searches that can't be printed here.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/12 … -material/
Pakistan is top dog in searches per-person for "horse sex" since 2004, "donkey sex" since 2007, "rape pictures" between 2004 and 2009

Camel sex!? Really?
yes it seems so
but why???

maybe the follow the example of moohammad, a man who he himself thought he might be demon possessed, they believe this man a 'prophet' a terrorist man who took women as booty slaves, a man who raped animals, married and bred with his cousin, sucked the tongue of little boys, married a 6 yr old, had sex with his dead aunt, dyed his beard and dressed in women's clothes.

Harry Potter film studio Warner Bros condemns death threat against JK Rowling as police launch probe
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … wling.html

'Why I Am Not an Atheist'

https://marswillsendnomore.wordpress.co … n-atheist/

Why would I define and label myself by one singular thing I do not believe? What matters to me is what people do stand for, or believe, or are simply interested in. Classifying myself as an atheist would be defining myself in negative terms, but it would give zero information about what I find important.

I am uninterested in defining people in negative ways about things that are irrelevant to them. I’m interested in knowing what does matter to them, in a positive sense. Telling me you don’t believe in Santa Claus would establish there is one form of nonsense neither of us has an interest in. But it does nothing to identify what common interests we share.

Most people over the age of seven agree with me that Santa Claus does not exist, but many disagree with me on everything from what makes good prose to what makes good government and a good society. The fact that we are all asantaclausists doesn’t matter.

The term “atheist” might do non-believers a disservice. It assumes that a belief in a god is so important that we need to identify those who do not have it. But from my perspective, it is no more important than not believing in the tooth fairy. No fully grown, sane adults define themselves and form social groups based on the fact that they share a disbelief in the tooth fairy. That would be silly and fail to establish any meaningful common ground.

In recent years, I have noticed a tendency among atheists—especially in the younger ones who have only recently liberated themselves from whatever mythology they were indoctrinated with as children—to make two tragic mistakes I often made in my early twenties.

The first mistake is to become as evangelical about atheism as the obnoxious and often dangerously fanatical christians who think they have been tasked with a holy mission to convert other people to their way of thinking. Some people cannot keep their beliefs to themselves and need to wedge them into every conversation. They are often so judgmental about everyone else that only other zealots can enjoy their company. But many young atheists become just as abrasive as the “christian soldiers, marching as to war” that they quite rightly want no part of.

The second and more insidious mistake happens when people who have been raised as devoutly religious abandon their religious beliefs but not their religious way of thinking. I struggled with this in my late teens and early twenties, much to my regret, and I see it all too often in other people. When you are indoctrinated from childhood to be religious, you will often behave in religious ways about new concepts and ideologies you discover, even when the external trappings of your original religion have been discarded.

It’s like the religion has disappeared, but the religious way of being has not. In that state of mind, one can easily get attached to all sorts of other nonsense such as healing crystals or extremist political causes, magical nonsense such as the Carlos Castaneda novels or the Law of Attraction, or even zealotry about certain lifestyle choices.

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Salman Rushdie 'on the road to recovery,' agent says

https://apnews.com/article/salman-rushd … 83e33267bb

“Though his life changing injuries are severe, his usual feisty & defiant sense of humour remains intact,” Rushdie’s son Zafar Rushdie said in a Sunday statement that stressed the author remained in critical condition. The family statement also expressed gratitude for the “audience members who bravely leapt to his defence,” as well as police, doctors and “the outpouring of love and support.”

The DOJ Investigates the Southern Baptist Convention, and the Reason is Extremely Disturbing

https://redstate.com/alexparker/2022/08 … ng-n612307

A report in May by third-party firm Guidepost Solutions logged 200+ pages worth of abuse claims within the church.

In response, the Convention voted in June to track pastors who’ve been “credibly” accused of sexual abuse.

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Yangtze River Dries Up, Revealing 600-Year-Old Buddhist Statues

https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy7y3y/ … -chongqing

'ALIEN conspiracy theorists claim to have found the symbol of the crucifix on Mars, which they believe is proof that Jesus Christ was an extraterrestrial who attempted to teach all intelligent species across the cosmos about ethics and morals.'

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/12 … ens-statue

What happens to world religions if we find life on Mars?

https://www.quora.com/What-happens-to-w … fe-on-Mars

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In pictures: The life of ex-Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62732829.amp

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What makes a martyr? The proclamation of Patriarch Kirill and the question of sacred violence

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/patriar … s/14086850

Kirill, Patriarch of Moscow and leader of the Russian Orthodox Church

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Q&A: Taliban’s Policy on Women Amounts to Crime Against Humanity, UN Special Rapporteur Says
https://www.voanews.com/a/taliban-s-pol … 96510.html

Polish Orthodox leader lambasts Patriarch Kirill
https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/ … rch-kirill

The leader of Poland’s minority Orthodox Church has apologized for praising the stance of Patriarch Kirill of Moscow during the war in Ukraine, amid growing outrage

Berlin to allow women to go topless in public swimming pools
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64907422

CEMB - Council of Ex-Muslims https://www.councilofexmuslims.com 

Our current forum membership includes ex-Muslims, Muslims and people who have never been Muslims

Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain - CEMB
https://www.ex-muslim.org.uk
Council of ex-Muslims of Britain campaigns for the end of apostasy and blasphemy laws, defends secularism, universal rights and equality and provides support to ex-Muslim atheists and freethinkers

the quran - will it blend?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CzS0Q-ijUc

and maybe a back up in case u tube flags it

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2y0iz0

'Sarah Haider: Ex-Muslim'
Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG_N3QltrWY
'TheThinkingAtheist'

Salman Rushdie's 'Victory City': A Lesson In Historiography Told Through A Joke?
https://www.thequint.com/opinion/salman … ugh-a-joke

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UK sanctions head of Russian Orthodox Church
https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-sanc … ch-kirill/
The U.K. has targeted Patriarch Kirill, the leader of the Russian Orthodox Church, as well as other allies of Vladimir Putin

supported the invasion, a pro-Putin church leader

how fragile and terroristic some jihadi muslims are

Salman Rushdie makes first in-person appearance since stabbing
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/1 … g-00097815

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That culture clash and an Open secretm the  foreign alien culture, that alien organization described by idiom as a 800-pound gorilla, Ludwig Wittgenstein used an example of a rhinoceros of disproving something existential philosophically ignored, the elephant in the living room metaphorical idiom, some other languages might say don't mention a rope in the house of a hanged man... 'non-dit' the secret de Polichinelle or Le sujet qui fâche or that "Un non-dit évident" the unpleasant subjects should be avoided?

Blame the new-Gods such as 'Snapchat'

France: Leftist and Muslim rioters savagely beat 80-year-old priest, leaving him unconscious
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2023/07/fran … nconscious

Why social media is being blamed for fueling riots in France
https://www.theintelligencer.com/busine … 180003.php

France: Migrant rioters threaten Jews with “Holocaust” – Allah’s Willing Executioners
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1521869727834574851

Paris police shooting: why are there riots in France?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ri … 023-06-29/

France: “The last prophet is Mohamed”, an evangelical church vandalised in Marseille – Allah’s Willing
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1521869105697656838

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Mars depending on what kind of government they might have rules for the Cults and Churches, Synagogue, Temples, Chapel, Mosques, Chaitya, the South East Asian 'Wat', Gurdwara, the beth mandi mashkhanna, Mithraeum, Hindu Mandir temple, Atashkadeh, Fire temple, the hidden occult ritual in a Tomb,  the Religion place of prayer, Sanctuary.

'I Feel Suffocated': Taliban Intensifies Clampdown On Music In Afghanistan
https://www.rferl.org/a/taliban-intensi … 51971.html

Nicaragua bans Jesuits and seizes all of their assets.
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/church/ne … ssets.html

Normally I might post critical comments against the Catholic Church, I have commented on its theft and corruption, its pedophile crimes but I think this event might be a step way  too far and will also allow a regime to target others. On the subject of Democracy vs Faith, the many Latin American nations are classed as Hybrid regimes or worse Authoritarian regimes, banning a preacher and sending a military to seize all their assets seems like a crazy step to far and an end to democracy, forget civil liberties, a person running for election often killed during political participation, there no true rights nor any free and righteous culture.

Nicaragua or the República de Nicaragua Unitary dominant-party presidential republic, Junta of National Reconstruction  Daniel Ortega since 1979 but he's a new 'Ortega' not the same as the old 'Ortega' the Sandinista ideology or Sandinismo is a series of political and economic philosophies instituted by the Nicaraguan Sandinista National Liberation Front.

The Current 'Pope' Francis is the first pope to be a member of the Society of Jesus (Jesuits)

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For Mars_B4_Moon re topic ....

Because you've taken an interest in this topic, originally created by Scott Beach in 2004, I decided to go back to read Scott's original opening post.

I am intrigued by the proposition, that God might be excluded from Mars.

That would take some doing, since it appears that humans create Gods out of whole cloth at the drop of a hat.

I'm hoping this post will stimulate your creative thinking, which is itself supplied by vast readings.

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Tahanson I am also no fan of forced Communist Atheism because this mindset has also killed millions

However maybe there could be a situation where people on Mars are allowed choose a path

back on the religion subject

Mars might have religions, it could also be religiously inbred with kids coming from a small number of original colonists
if larger numbers do arrive then maybe it could have crime
Temples might be attacked by others or items looted for crimes of opportunity

Hindu temple in US raided by burglars
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor … 849150.cms
A Hindu temple in the US State of California has been raided by burglars who stole a donation box from the premises

Archbishop of Canterbury appeals for Gaza humanitarian corridor
https://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/new … -corridor/

Prince Andrew's Accuser Shares Jeffrey Epstein Spy Theory
https://www.newsweek.com/prince-andrew- … ry-1832295

Pope orders reopening of case of prominent priest accused of abuse
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/pope- … 17607.html

Judaism Synagogue a ban on Icons,  idolatry, iconography, images and it  had painting in them as early as 250 A.D. or 250 "CE" (Common Era)  some Jews have wanted the smashing of old heritage because of very ‘hard line’ against all kinds of images.

a group like ISIS or Al Qaeda will be stupid enough to destroy their own ancient heritage

CNN looks for opinions

American Arabs and Jews: How has the Israel-Hamas war changed you?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/american-ara … 25747.html

Man with 162 brothers and sisters reveals horrors of cult he managed to escape
https://metro.co.uk/2023/10/16/man-rais … -19669805/

Shanell Snow Derieux lifestory. Marrying a First Cousin at 18, Escaping “THE ORDER” Incestuous Polygamy Cult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8b0hxeVZdQ

Top 50 Most Dishonest Acts in Mormon Church History
https://www.mormonstories.org/top-40-mo … h-history/

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For Mars_B4_Moon re Post #136

Your opening line is what inspires this question:

Is it possible that Communism created it's own "gods" ???

I'm thinking of the Cult of Personality we see in Russia today, in China today, certainly in North Korea, and possibly other nations.

We have even seen "Cult of Personality" situations in the US ... I'm thinking here of religious cults, of which we've had a number.

Do you think there might be a "built in" tendency for humans to manufacture "gods" if they are not provided ones by their parents?

We are in a topic that asks a question that may contain it's own answer.

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and AI might soon make its own godly like worship and ritual?

OpenAI Employees Say Firm's Chief Scientist Has Been Making Strange Spiritual Claims
https://futurism.com/openai-employees-s … ual-claims

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I wonder if AI wrote the article

'What If Religion Never Existed?'
https://curiousmatrix.com/what-if-relig … r-existed/
Exploring the Unthinkable: World Without Religion?

Many Sask. Ukrainians in support of celebrating Christmas on December 25
https://regina.ctvnews.ca/many-sask-ukr … -1.6675492
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky signed a law officially moving the Christmas Day holiday

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Artificial intelligence spells the end of church as we know it
https://baptistnews.com/article/artific … e-know-it/

Google Gemini replaces Bard, releases Advanced version
https://technology.inquirer.net/131954/google-gemini

A gaming website

Topic: These are the results of lobotomizing chapgpt with wokeism
https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundi … h-wokeism/

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The reason I say it's because of wokeism is because of what happened to amazon's AI, they started training it on the religion and it broke it's neural network, made it crazy.

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Another recognized religious leader of a country's religion community stumbles, a principal leader almost the ceremonial head trips over himself, one of the religion faces of a worldwide temple

In Modi's stronghold, voters chose jobs over new Hindu temple
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/mod … 024-06-06/

Europe’s Orthodox world is in moral turmoil
https://www.politico.eu/article/europe- … mir-putin/

A historical change a long time ago with Kyiv or as Kiev was losing its political, cultural, and economical significance due to the Mongol invasion, Metropolitan Maximus moved to Vladimir in 1299; his successor, Metropolitan Peter moved the residence to Moscow in 1325. A revolution, the Bolshevik-controlled government of Soviet Russia enacted the Decree on separation of church from state and school from church that proclaimed separation of church and state in Russia, freedom to "profess any religion or profess none". Since Putin there was been a rebirth of the religion brand. The Russian Church also sought to fill the ideological vacuum left by the collapse of Communism, Patriarch Alexy II or Alexius was the 15th Patriarch of Moscow and all Rus', the primate of the Russian Orthodox Church. Elected Patriarch of Moscow in 1990, eighteen months before the dissolution of the Soviet Union, he became the first Russian Patriarch of the post-Soviet period. There have been reports, beginning in the 1990s, that Patriarch Alexy II had been a KGB agent. The BBC published an anonymous obituary entitled "Double life of Russia's patriarch": "Patriarch Alexy II had an extraordinary career, in which he switched from suppressing the Russian Orthodox Church to being its champion. A favourite of the KGB, he was promoted rapidly through the Church hierarchy, doing the Kremlin's bidding at a time when dissident priests were thrown into jail. As the Church's effective foreign minister, he helped cover up the repression of Russian Christians, defending the Soviet system to the outside world. He wore a bunch of Royal Babylon Rome looking or Masonic symbols Awards, the National Order of the Cedar Lebanon, Order of Friendship of Peoples Belarus, the Imperial Order of Saint Prince Vladimir, the Order of "Glory" Azerbaijan and other strange looking 'outstanding contribution' medals.

'Orthodox Nun Says Moscow Patriarch is a Heretic'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV4Y42w1SL8

Kirill was sanctioned in 2022 by Canada
https://cepa.org/article/an-unorthodox- … -and-hell/

Forbes reported on 20 February 2009 that, "Kirill, who was the Metropolitan of Smolensk, succeeds Alexei II who died in December after 18 years as head of the Russian Church. According to material from the Soviet archives, Kirill was a KGB agent (as was Alexei). This means he was more than just an informer, of whom there were millions in the Soviet Union. He was an active officer of the organization. Neither Kirill nor Alexei ever acknowledged or apologized for their ties with the security agencies."
https://www.forbes.com/2009/02/20/putin … hurch.html

Kirill stated his goal of establishing a global Eastern Orthodox movement in Greece, Cyprus, Ukraine, Belarus, various Balkan states, Georgia, Armenia, and Moldova
http://content.time.com/time/world/arti … 44,00.html

I'm thinking of the Cult of Personality we see in Russia today, in China today, certainly in North Korea, and possibly other nations.

We have even seen "Cult of Personality" situations in the US ... I'm thinking here of religious cults, of which we've had a number.

Do you think there might be a "built in" tendency for humans to manufacture "gods" if they are not provided ones by their parents?

2051 prediction

Timeline of AI forecasts
https://theaidigest.org/timeline

Religion with AI as a deity or priest has 1 million follower

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