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#2326 2023-05-30 08:19:31

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Re: Politics

Prosecutors: Man who rammed U-Haul near White House sought to end US democracy

https://wtop.com/dc/2023/05/prosecutors … democracy/


I could not find that alleged quote by the younger Donald John Trump Jr, maybe the tweet got deleted or it was part of a long tv interview.

However the India person's pic is one of the most brown, tanned looking 'White Supremacists' I have ever seen. Even so 'Nazi' and Indian Hindu culture is not that far removed, many peoples from other nations like Iran or India consider themselves 'Aryan' there was a movement of Nazi in India during WW2, Indian National Army, Indische Legion and Battaglione Hindoustan India libera. Many Indian wanted to be independent of the British they got support from Germany or Japan or the Indian Independence League at times allied with German or Japanese while others fought alongside with the British or Allies, a complicated history involving both Axis and Allies.

Off-duty Marines beaten by crowd in San Clemente
https://fox5sandiego.com/news/californi … nte-video/
Three US Marines savagely beaten by gang of 40 teens moments after firework argument
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/t … g-30112115

Rand hits a new low after BRICS summit immunity announcement
https://businesstech.co.za/news/finance … ouncement/


TheGrio is a Black-owned free media network which carries news, sports, lifestyle, politics focused on the African American community.

Here’s what Sarah Jane Comrie could do to fix the Citi Bike situation, but she won’t
https://thegrio.com/2023/05/26/heres-wh … -she-wont/

quote
https://www.gofundme.com/f/the-family-o … e-incident
'We are aiding the family of a young man who was attacked while riding a Citi Bike. The right-wing media, has spread the idea that she was the victim.'

$81,843
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Why have tensions flared up between Serbia and Kosovo?
https://news.sky.com/story/why-have-ten … o-12892946
Serbian tennis star Novak Djokovic wrote "Kosovo is the heart of Serbia. Stop the violence"

He later told a news conference it is "very painful for me as a Serb to see what is happening in Kosovo and the way our people are practically driven out from the municipalities".

It risks fuelling tensions between the two sides, which have been at odds for centuries.

Here, Sky News looks at why violence has broken out again in the region - and the history behind it.

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#2327 2023-06-01 03:09:49

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Re: Politics

Canada to start printing health warnings directly on individual cigarettes
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/05/31/ … igarettes/

War crimes evidence erased by social media platforms
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65755517

I wonder did we in the Western world start to go crazy and lose common sense. Perhaps with all the media and riots and doomsday fear reports we as a people on Earth have been entering a stage of group hysteria or 'mass psychosis' as Jung describes.

There is a trending news item on social media which says 'Second Irish Famine' Will Be ‘Green’ a headline which seems to ridiculous to be true. Yet if you read statements on media it would seem that Ireland is just as crazy as any other Neo-Leftwing new Regressive Left crazy you might find in Scotland or California. Now you would think that experiencing British Imperial rule and having a Potato Failure of their own that Ireland would be aware of Famine. How can a nation self sabotage knowing its own history? Yet it looks like its possible that a 'Limousine Liberal' or 'Champagne Socialist' type one that flies a flag of Climate fear or Green and Flowers can have huge influence in Ireland politics maybe not just copying the mistakes of Netherlands or Sri Lanka but they want a mass culling of cows? Ireland logically seems to be ideal for Cows, mild, humid and somewhat changeable with abundant rainfall it can freeze and it can have rare heatwaves but overall there is a lack of temperature extremes. It's perfect for grazing animal climate matches regions where oceanic or subtropical highland climates are found like Chile in the Southern Hemisphere, parts of the USA, the Tasmanian Central Highlands, and parts of New Zealand, even if it does freeze or snow in an Irish winter the farm animal may be hardy to endure the winter so 'Cows' would naturally be an export. A cull on Cows would naturally create shortage and interfere with global market price, Ireland is a big exporter of dairy products. On 'Peta' a site that claim to be Green for example you can see headlines about saving the Cow, they say the Cow is killed to make cheese, yogurt, and ice cream, the global leather industry turns their skin into clothes and accessories, such as leather jackets, suede shoes, belts, lots of horror stories told but do they in Peta know you can not get cheese from a Cow by killing it but as a matter of fact you must keep a Cow health, alive and in good comfort for the Cow to regularly give you cheese and other dairy product? Is this type of new 'crazy' coming from the EU or coming from Ireland itself? As a policy it makes about as much sense as a village in Iceland culling and killing all their fish to 'Save the Climate'. US intelligence reports that 50.7% of Ireland's land is permanent pasture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Ireland
Maybe the people who 'know everything' also plan on killing Wildebeest or WaterBuffalo of Africa because these animals also 'fart' too much, maybe they plan on culling most the deer on Earth or do they only target Livelihood farmers?

The Irish Green Party seem to have huge influence in Irish politics, online it says 2-3 seats in Ireland, they are also inside EU or the European Parliament but the Part is growing rapidly. On wiki it says Seats won '12' in the previous election so it is rapidly expanding and just as a single Joe Lieberman can influence on US Republican or Democrat politics or a British Lib Dem individual can influence the British political scene, the minor Irish Green party already as huge influence in coalition 'King Maker' politics. If you add Irish Green Party to the bloc of other Green across the EU it now becomes a massive group, 72 seats including the French Europe Écologie les Verts and German,  Bündnis 90 Die Grünen across Europe and Ireland this new GreenCult grows.

The farmer with intelligence and wit Ireland might have to go back to the usual tried and tested way of telling governance half of their cows are in fact a 'donkey' or a horse?

Global Economy explained | if you have two cows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXNGoV_lI-8

'It's a doomsday cult: 200,000 cows to be culled'

https://twitter.com/NetZeroWatch/status … 2437462016

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#2328 2023-06-02 12:29:44

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Re: Politics

Mars_B4_Moon,

Former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov described precisely how this is possible.  The KGB called it "Active Measures".  You feed people false propaganda, while asserting it's factually correct and valid, for so long that even when they're confronted with a preponderance of evidence that something is factually incorrect or not working as intended, or that they're being attacked, they're so confused by the propaganda-based indoctrination that they don't know what to do about it.  I call this "being educated into stupidity".

Some of these people might plausibly have all the relevant information in the world and they could be 10 times as smart as you or I will ever be.  The moment the subject matter touches upon an identity-based valuation statement, then purely based upon their own reactions to events or information they've been conditioned to fear or hate, they will also have serious issues accepting objective reality at-odds with their identity, because their identity became involved.  Most people can't recognize when they're being indoctrinated or conditioned to respond in a specific way, rather than educated.  The military uses this to keep people alive, but most of the time it's used for nefarious purposes.  Most people who are absolutely certain of their own core identity-based beliefs would rather die than change.  "I'm not who I think I am" is terrifying to most people, and for good reason.  That said, be ever so careful which threads you pull on and how hard you pull if you wish to undo the damage done by that indoctrination.  Radical changes and rethinking normally doesn't produce desirable outcomes.

This is why I suggested using other methods for electrification and energy storage that still involve the technologies that support the worldview of these cult followers, namely solar thermal, "heat energy batteries", and lower-cost materials.  They don't respond well to being told that their beliefs about energy / climate / environment are generally invalid.  They don't want to hear that the best course of action most of them can take is to keep doing what we've been doing, with a few small but meaningful tweaks and changes here and there, such as ending planned obsolescence, reverting back to simpler technology, and using simpler methods to achieve the same ends.  It's a basic undeniable fact that nothing humanity has ever invented consumed less energy over time.  We'll eventually be forced to use more energy-dense nuclear power sources, or huge swaths of humanity will die from lack of energy.  Agreement is not required for these statements to be factual and true.  I'm agnostic on viable methods and technologies, but I'm not agnostic on results.  All worthwhile changes value results over beliefs and ideals.

The green this / that / the other, renewable this / that / the other death cult is exactly what I just called it.  Despite how highly they think of themselves, the people teaching this regressive madness are not more intelligent than thou art, few of them actually care about the environment even if some of them are sincere, and they sure as hell don't care about other people.  It's a powerfully seductive narcissistic ideology that preys upon the worst fears of ignorant but indoctrinated people in a very cunning way that preempts a number of more sophisticated mental self-defense mechanisms from operating as they should.  There's no other explanation for thinking that buying a car powered by batteries is somehow "saving the planet".

People are not the problem, but their wildly irrational thought processes are.  When you terrify people, you get bizarre and counter-productive solutions, like thinking something that stores 1 barrel of oil equivalent energy while consuming 100 barrels of oil energy equivalent to make is a "great idea", or killing a quarter million cows to stop cow farts, or similarly ridiculous nonsense.  Someone who was rational would think that sounds like complete idiocy, but these people are no longer rational because their core identity is involved.  You cannot make logical appeals to someone who is indoctrinated and terrified.

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#2329 2023-06-11 06:39:33

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Russian state media says U.S. citizen has been detained on drug charges

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-st … g-charges/

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#2330 2023-06-18 02:54:24

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Dengue fever crisis forces Peru minister to resign

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-65930736


Rocket found off Irish coast shrouded in mystery as Virgin Orbit rules out ownership

https://hypeaviation.com/story/rocket-f … ip/120508/

The debris came up stuck in a net as they were hauling.

the story is also on msn news, the photo shows part of a rocket with small engines and maybe a green looking printed circuit board. The rocket is small but heavy enough to break a pallet of wood I assume the fishermen used, the rocket and engines seem to have been rusted by sea salt, the pic shows four engines instead of one engine on Virgin's usual rocket.

Some believe it is an upper-stage from Aerojet Rocketdyne an American manufacturer of rockets Headquartered in Sacramento, California.

The debris which was discovered was thought to be an engine belonging to Virgin Orbit’s failed launch from Cornwall in January. The launch prompted warnings at the time about possible debris falling in an area off the South-West Coast of Ireland.


'Vucic out': Serbian protesters keep heat on government
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/vu … 023-06-17/

France: Protest against Alpine rail project turns violent. Twelve French police officers have been hurt in clashes with activists protesting a high-speed rail project in the Alps.
https://www.dw.com/en/france-protest-ag … a-65951644

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#2331 2023-06-23 16:49:51

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Macron calls for an international taxation deal to finance climate efforts
https://www.politico.eu/article/france- … e-efforts/

There is some wild political news coming out but its difficult to know what is real in the war. Sometimes in those war clips you can see some Russians appear to be well trained as soldiers, in other clips you see a bunch of crazy vodka drinker gangsters and general criminal type undisciplined doing some very strange stuff.

So there is some gossip and viral stuff circulating online, the Wagner Group aka PMC Wagner a Private Russian paramilitary organization, is possibly undisciplined or filled up by a network of mercenaries, ex-convicts, some ex Military, some Vodka drinkers, criminal gangster mafia type and Felons or basically a de facto private army of Russian President Vladimir Putin or it was a private army of Putin? There are also reports that Russian military bombed their own men? It's difficult to know what is true and false in the 'Fog of War'. Prigozhin name has popped up in Western news media before saying he controls a network of influential companies, including the Russian state-backed also linked to three companies accused of interference in the 2016 and 2018 U.S. elections, the media also report news Yevgeny Prigozhin is rich, they say he is part of the 'Oligarchy'. He has been arrested in the 1970s and 1980s, before he became a person in the military or politics he was again caught stealing, and sentenced to twelve years imprisonment for robbery, fraud, and involving teenagers in crime.  In 1995, Prigozhin entered the restaurant business, hosted US President Bush junior or 43rd President George W. Bush in 2002. The FBI is offering a reward of up to $250,000 for information leading to the arrest of Prigozhin. The viral clips and rumors online say one of the top Wagner mercenary boss, which may or may not be the voice of 'Yevgeny Prigozhin' the Slogans "Blood, Honor, Homeland, Courage" he said the Ukraine War was lies but he also wants to overthrow the government and threatened mutiny. Not sure what is real in the new age of AI but Russian state media seem to confirm forces in Moscow are on 'high alert'.

This is not the first time reports of him saying strange stuff came out, he said about the commanders of the Russian army that "All these b**tards ought to be sent to the front barefoot with just a submachine gun."

https://web.archive.org/web/20221020021 … rse-a79078

News reported he called members of the Putin-controlled Russian parliament "useless"

https://web.archive.org/web/20221127190 … zhin3.pdf/

The Moscow Times and a number of Western News seem to be running the story

'Russian state security says it's launching a criminal case against Wagner mercenary boss Prigozhin'
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rus … 17755.html

Wagner chief Prigozhin vows to avenge alleged Russian army attack
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Ukrain … rmy-attack

Prigozhin vows to ‘end’ Shoigu, FSB charges Wagner with ‘inciting insurrection’
https://news.yahoo.com/prigozhin-vows-e … 00726.html

https://www.euronews.com/2023/06/23/wag … ack-russia

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/ … ied-a81609

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ … be-stopped


There is a guy named Shoigu, politician and military officer who has served as Minister of Defense in Russia, there is also a name Valery Gerasimov mentioned on CNN for "tens of thousands" of Wagner casualties, saying "Shoigu, Gerasimov, where … is the ammunition?
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/05/euro … index.html


It was reported in news that Igor Girkin accused Prigozhin of plotting to use the Wagner group to stage a coup within Russia and that Prigozhin was actively violating Russian 2022 war censorship laws by complaining about the Russian high command, and that his forces where practically in an active state of mutiny.  The US Treasury Department designated Prigozhin pursuant to E.O.13661 for sanctions for providing support to senior officials of the Russian Federation, family members linked to Yevgeny Prigozhin  were sanctioned by the European Union, the United States, Ukraine, and many other countries due to Prigozhin's involvement in Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Igor Girkin a critic of Prigozhin is a Russian army veteran and former Federal Security Service (FSB) officer the group which came out of the KGB in the post USSR.  Girkin, alongside fellow Russian nationalists Pavel Gubarev and Maxim Kalashnikov, formed the Club of Angry Patriots, a hardline Russian nationalist social movement aiming to push the Russian government to take more extreme pro-victory measures in the war. Girkin was reportedly detained in Crimea while attempting to travel to the frontline near Kherson, 2022 Girkin left for Ukraine in order to fight in one of the Russian volunteer units. That same month, it was reported that the Ukrainian government offered reward for his capture. It was reported in news that Igor Girkin says Prighozin 'Should Be Arrested' Igor Girkin, a self-described Russian nationalist.

from a few weeks back

Wagner's chief says his army isn't strong enough to topple Putin, responding to rumors he is planning a coup: report
https://uk.style.yahoo.com/wagners-chie … 27430.html

and in censorship propaganda news

Twitter agrees to comply with tough EU disinformation laws
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ … ation-laws

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#2332 2023-06-24 09:28:10

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Poland wins European road safety award after deaths fall by nearly half in decade
https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/06/21/ … in-decade/



Russians vs Russians inside Russia

Footage reportedly shows a Russian military Ka-52 "Alligator" attack helicopter narrowly dodging a surface to air missile fired at it by Wagner coup forces.

Russian Helicopter Dodges Wagner SAM
https://funker530.com/video/russian-hel … agner-sam/

Prigozhin Says Wagner Won’t Surrender After Putin’s Address
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles … -s-address



West ‘pledges’ $200bn for climate fight
https://www.dawn.com/news/1761406/west- … mate-fight

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#2333 2023-06-25 02:13:27

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Canadians will no longer have access to news content on Facebook and Instagram, Meta says
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/online … -1.6885634

Media is reporting Prigozhin to go to Belarus as mutiny or coup or rebellion or whatever it was called 'ends'

Prigozhin's exile ends revolt but leaves questions about Putin's power
https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14941250

Yevgeny Prigozhin seen leaving Rostov-on-Don
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-66011572
According to Russian state media, Progozhin is to leave Russia for Belarus


Russia mercenary threat revives concern over security of largest nuclear arsenal in the world
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/r … in-3585241

Images of tanks on Russian streets brought to mind the failed 1991 coup by communist hardliners that raised concerns about the security of the Soviet nuclear arsenal and the possibility of a rogue commander stealing a warhead, said former US intelligence officials.

US intelligence agencies said in their 2023 Annual Threat assessment that "Russia's nuclear material security ... remains a concern despite improvements to material protection, control, and accounting at Russia's nuclear sites since the 1990s."

and Suddenly the USA and other parts of the word care more about security interests of Russia more than Putin does


Japan: Reports Exposes Forced Sterilization of Children, Sparks Anger
https://www.transcontinentaltimes.com/c … zed-japan/

Canadian government bans cruise ships from dumping sewage close to Canadian shores
https://hopdes.com/news/canadian-govern … e-dumping/

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#2334 2023-06-28 11:48:44

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Over 3,000 flights disrupted as weather continues to cause travel chaos
https://nypost.com/2023/06/28/over-1500 … -continue/

Dershowitz: Hunter Plea Deal Shouldn’t Be Accepted Unless Judge Calls Garland and Weiss to Testify
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/06 … o-testify/

Biden says Putin was weakened by Prigozhin's revolt
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white- … -rcna91596

Nato ready to face threat from ‘Moscow or Minsk’, says alliance head after Wagner chief’s exile
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ … iefs-exile

Lukashenko says Putin wanted to 'wipe out' Prigozhin during mutiny attempt
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/lu … 023-06-28/

Swiss Federal Council rejects export request for Leopard 1 A5 tanks destined for Ukraine
https://www.admin.ch/gov/en/start/docum … 96172.html

Debris from implosion of Titanic-bound submersible is returned to land
https://apnews.com/article/titan-submer … 8c5435a283

No more frictionless ports?

Macron of France wants a global shipping tax?
https://apnews.com/article/climate-fina … 338c33bca8

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#2335 2023-06-28 12:06:14

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Mars_B4_Moon,

Garland should be the one being investigated.  We already know that Hunter Biden and Joe Biden are dirty.  I don't care about that, because they're politicians.  If they weren't dirty, they wouldn't be there.

What I want to know is, "Did either of these guys sell out America to communist China or Russia?"

Ask a question that actually needs an answer.  I don't care one little bit about Hunter Biden's tax / gun / drug issues.  I hope he gets help with his drug addiction problems, because he has children, but that's about it.  I care a lot about whether or not his daddy sold out America to the highest briber.  We have evidence that President Biden was selling classified American documents to other countries while he was still a Senator or Vice President.  I want to know what he sold, and to whom exactly he sold it.  President Trump was impeached the first time for suggesting that any investigation at all take place into what President Biden was selling to foreign nationals.

Kennedy Jr (D) or Trump (R) are the only two men I support even running for President.  Nobody else from either party has any business trying to run a country that they don't even care to try to understand.  Everyone else is another "I have great ideas" type of person with no care at all as to how what they do affects the average American, nor any concept that what they do helps or hurts America.  President Biden doesn't even have any of his own ideas anymore, which means nobody who Americans actually voted for is even running our country at this point.  I take no issue with having either of those two men as my President, because I have no questions about where their loyalties lie.  They're both basically competent, willing to do the job, and people trust them to do what is right.

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#2336 2023-06-28 15:16:43

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Kbd512, look at the democratic party's biggest doners.  What do they Merrick Garland, Chuck Schumer and (Piece of) Schiff have in common?  Hint: None of them eat bacon and all of them eat bagels.  The Democratic party and America as a whole has been hijacked by a clever, but thoroughly disgusting group of people.  Much the same has happened in the UK.  You have first ammendment rights that allows you to at least talk about this silent coup.  The UK was stripped of that freedom in 1965 by those very same bagel munchers.  Notice how the same people are doing everything they can to undermine your 1st ammendment rights and take away your guns?

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"Plan and prepare for every possibility, and you will never act. It is nobler to have courage as we stumble into half the things we fear than to analyse every possible obstacle and begin nothing. Great things are achieved by embracing great dangers."

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#2337 2023-06-28 20:22:55

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Calliban,

There are more Jewish people in politics because they tend to be interested in the law and have higher IQs than some random person you pull off the street.  People with high IQ will naturally be more interested in governance, law, and organization.  It's always been that simple.  That characteristic doesn't have a damn thing to do with the Jewish religion, nor any other religion or lack thereof, and it never has.  It's not a conspiracy of anything, either.  You can tell yourself stuff like this if it appeals to your sense of pride / fears / hatreds / etc, but repetition of personal belief about someone you dislike or distrust doesn't equate to truth.

Merrick Garland was probably interested in law because his father's side of the family fled the Russian pogroms.  Can you fathom why anyone would be interested in the law after their family fled the country they were born in, as a response to the lawlessness that included genocide based upon what your religion happened to be?  If so, then maybe you can understand why so many Jewish people come to America, and go on to become doctors or lawyers.  Here we value people who can understand the human body or the law or complex machines.  Religion is generally not one of the things you get persecuted for here in America, unless you're dealing with our own branches of "old world thinking" that caused America to become a country to begin with.  You can never get away from old world thinking completely.  There's always some part of it that catches up with you.

If you take some of the smartest people in a cognitive sense, not necessarily an emotional or "big picture" sense (the kind of person that fuses together all the ideas that make society and civilization work, rather than the ones who fixate on some aspect of how things work), then you'll find that most of them think communist principles are somehow egalitarian in nature.  The problem with indoctrination is that the indoctrinated conflate indoctrination with education.  Many of them don't even know the definitions of the words they use.  There are always dimwits who are merely looking for new avenues to control the lives of other people.  The most intelligent amongst us know that, for the most part, you don't have to.

So...

Virtually all of the people who think communism is such a great idea, are young and impressionable when this nonsense is taught to them.  Many of them are very bright, but they lack the sophisticated mental defenses against indoctrination that only a select few people have, regardless of their level of general intelligence.  All skill requires practice and experience.  Almost none of them have ever interacted with any real communists or lived under a communist system.  The ones who have and still think communism is a great idea are either green-eyed monsters, which adequately explains why the idea is appealing to them (they get to brutalize people), or they run away like scalded dogs with their tails between their legs (because the nature of how communism will be implemented is so shockingly brutal and appallingly callous).  It's about the same as the response to childhood abuse.  That's the best way I can explain why the idea appeals to so many so many young people that have either been bullied or are bullies.

Communists are always trying to silence their political opponents and take away our ability to defend against the violence they plan to do to us, if ever the opportunity presents itself.  We're very familiar with their modus operandi.  Nothing new there.

You know what aspect of personality / behavioral traits has no correlation, one way or another, with IQ?

Virtue.  Virtue has no relation to IQ whatsoever.  You can be as smart as a whip or as dumb as dishwater, but your virtue is in no way tied to how intelligent you.  There are virtue-less people who have genius level IQs and ones with IQs below room temperature.  IQ measures your ability to perform complex tasks, but would never be a reason why I would value someone more than someone else.  If I need you to diffuse a bomb that some evil genius built, then I'm going to need someone with a higher-than-average IQ, but very few tasks in life involve problems like that.  Knowing when to get out of your own way, and what your limitations are, is at least equally important.

Similarly...

There are more men in engineering than women, because men, on average are more interested in things.  If you select for the people who are the absolute most interested in things, then they're all going to be men.  That doesn't make men better than women.  There is no humanity without more people.  Women don't need any other "super powers".  They can just say, "I can create new life", and drop the mic.  They don't need to compete with anyone else.  Creating new life is not a competition.  It needs to be done with forethought and great care.

There are also more men than women in prison because the most aggressive people in society will always be men, not women.  That doesn't make men less virtuous than women.  Sometimes you need the most violent and angry men on the planet to fight your enemies and win.

There has to be more nuance to life than, "these people eat bagels and those people eat bacon".  Okay, but then what?

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Some little foreign cultural islamic gangster with a criminal background was killed when he failed to stop at a Police checkpoint so now France has its 'George Floyd' moment. Nahel riots are an ongoing series of Burning, Looting and Murder Riots and civil disturbances now spreading all across France, taking over multiple French cities, it might also spread to Belgium.

The so-called leader of French this Macron then politically attacked Police.

It only gave the mob political ammunition to riot

Macron holds crisis talks as hundreds arrested in France riots
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-eur … 895/page/3

Mayor of the Saint-Pierre-des-Corps commune the French Centre Region is attacked by mob and his car burnt out infront of him France is facing a collapsed society but he was seeing partying with Elton John instead?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CuF7YqirRpG/


France in Europe, this is not a bombing run from Russia attacking Ukraine

https://files.catbox.moe/uu821c.mp4

they dress dark with masks and face covered in France just like the BLM Antifa Marxists in America dressed during their riots

https://files.catbox.moe/anl07n.mp4

fires in many places as if a city has been bombed by an invader fighter bomber squadron, these were a mob of people on the ground burning and hijacking and city and Looting

https://files.catbox.moe/8n27ck.mp4

Some criminals will cover their faces, others will post their crimes to social media and show their faces as they do crimes on social media like Facebook,  the You tube  Instagram sites etc

The riots spilled over to a foreign country Brussels the capital of Belgium.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ … apologises

India Hindu newspapers reort

French President Macron holds crisis meeting on riots

France in flames as riots continue, while Macron dances at Elton John concert (videos-photos)
https://en.protothema.gr/france-in-flam … os-photos/

Macron seeks to quell 'unacceptable' France riots

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/ … 230630.htm

There are also news items and videos of Wild animals spotted in a city, who knows maybe the mob broke open the zoo and maybe a Lion will show up there is film of a 'Zebra', there is a clip of a man in a car who talks about a giraffe running the streets. I will not share any link to the social media Telegram Messenger as it has bad moderation and is often involved in scams and political propaganda, however the film itself might be real. Both Left and Right ran in the direction of new social media websites like 'Telegram' to flee censorship and it is overtaking WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger to become the most popular instant messaging, however the islamics, Marxist French and Russian and jihadi are involved, it was started by Nikolai and Pavel Durov, its HQ are in the tax dodge region of the British Virgin Islands, it has operations in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, Telegram is highly owned and influenced by islamist Sharia Law jihad money and the Emirati state-owned holding company and the Mubadala Investment Company. The Social Media company a complex corporate structure of shell companies to delay complying with government subpoenas, Telegram was used to organize Looting and Riots in the USA during the 'George Floyd' protests.  Telegram has been used for illegal activities such as spreading hate messages, illegal pornography, contact between criminals and trading of illegal goods and services such as drugs and stolen personal data. In Iraq and Iran, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps has used groups and channels for doxing citizens and warmongering propaganda. In September 2015, in response to a question about the use of Telegram by Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS), Pavel Durov stated: "I think that privacy, ultimately, and our right for privacy is more important than our fear of bad things happening, like terrorism." https://web.archive.org/web/20151127133 … -february/ According to Wired, Telegram "exercises virtually no content moderation, except to take down illegal pornography and calls for violence" https://www.wired.com/story/how-telegra … -facebook/

Macron himself is on Telegram and Macron has blame to put on something else.

Blame it on Mario, Sonic, Xbox and Pokemon

Macron Blames Video Games For Riots, Calls On Parents To Help
https://www.channelstv.com/2023/06/30/m … s-to-help/
French President Emmanuel Macron called on parents to keep child rioters off the streets

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France riots: "all options" considered after third night of violence since fatal shooting

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/fr … 023-06-30/



he needs those rooftop Korean-Americans that restored order in LA?

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Fall of the old French Empire, the autopsy report.

France is in Collapse today and it looks like a bizarre scene from a Zombie Horror Apocalypse and Doctor Doolittle or Jumanji???
There are reports of a circus or zoo broken into and Lions, Gorillas, Zebras and an Elephant on the streets of France, yes Lions, Gorillas and Zebras running around and behaving better than wild human mob animals during the riots.
There are also pics and vids of wild Boars running panicked in the cities, wild goats running around but perhaps they escaped from a farm or the backyard of some French-Arab type and they were not broken out from a zoo.

Here is a clip of a number of supermarket stores being rammed by vehicles so they can 'Loot' shopping items
https://streamable.com/0zu71j

Emmanuel Macron: No Charles De Gaulle
https://erbilwrites.substack.com/p/emma … -de-gaulle
Revisting Algerian Revolution. Now in play, in France.

If it is not “Yellow Jackets”, it is the bill to increase the retirement age from 62 to 64. Lately, it is even worse. It looks like Algiers-1962 all over again. But this time, it is France that is burning, not Algeria. All the while, who is in charge now? Emmanuel Macron: No Charles De Gaulle around to call upon for help!

How very ironic: In the past 48 hours Germany, France and the EU rebuked Poland and Hungary for not embracing the new EU migrationpact
https://gettr.com/post/p2kxhec396b
and now the very diverse France is burning!

Bomb?
https://gettr.com/post/p2kxamb31fc
Rioters using IEDs in Lyon, France.

Rioters in France have set the Jean-Macé library in Metz on fire tonight.
https://gettr.com/gtok/p2kxt374ae1
Looks like the building is beyond saving

France
https://gettr.com/post/p2kxn6a3740
Post office in Lyon targeted by an explosive device to gain entry.

I do not have a twitter account, it seems I and many others around the world can no longer publicly browse twitter. Not sure what is happening perhaps Macron has been on the phone to Elon.

Éric Zemmour is there on public discussion, he is on a website called gettr, he ran for election, he is classed as a Conservative Rightwing type, he is also a writer and a journalist, you can view these public posts without a log in. Sometimes they even post pics so maybe you don't need to know the French language to get the gist of what he says.

https://gettr.com/post/p2kvlcc5498

All my support to our mayors attacked by these 'savages'

The EU Threatens Twitter With Censorship Demands, “You Can Run But You Can’t Hide!”
https://reclaimthenet.org/videos/the-eu … ip-demands

Odysee is another alternative free social media site, it sometimes covers science, music, art and politics, it is linked with LBRY is a blockchain-based file-sharing and payment network
https://odysee.com/$/search?q=France
It can be another source of information as the internet starts shadow banning and going into shutdown

Old web users might miss the old days of 'usenet' before the interwebs got opened to hordes of people on their cell phones.
Even if a technocrat elite media exist and even if they trying shutting the entire internet of planet Earth there might be old-school bbs php bulletin board forums still around that survived the dot com crash

'France driver shooting..'
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopi … sc&start=0
17-year shot dead by policeman in Nanterre, France
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showth … ?t=7369471


Maybe these global euro type elites if they exist and if they want flow of info controlled, then maybe they would like you tubes and twitters censored. If there are control freaks out there who fail to lead and inspire and govern and if they these elites exist and they can not move a population forward as leaders and perhaps No matter how much 'they' will try to censor a free and open internet there will always be a small space on the net where people can talk and express
For example even post even 'controversial' discussion topics
'Darwin Award Billionaire Club'
https://dangeru.us/new/thread/960321
250 Hollywood Celebrities Sign Letter Demanding Big Tech Censor Anyone Who Opposes Trans Surgeries O
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php … -o.611617/
'The ramifications of blockchain technology?'
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/gener … 55686.html

I understand how some extreme stuff could be censored but at the same time I really don't want to have to go to some Coast to Coast AM Bigfoot website or go to a Lizard Doomsday Vaccine Alien invasion guy like 'David Icke' and his blog to see people chat free, or I do not want to go to some complete fringe Leftwing Loon or Rightwing Loony for a free and open discussion. I personally believe the web was more free before giants like the Facebooks and You tube style sites came along. When on the web and the web keeps getting smaller then where to go for a free flow of info that is outside the mainstream corporate 'news'. Where to go to tell me what is happening, you can always ring a local person maybe message them to see what is going on in France. Or would 'they' monitor and close the phone lines and just mass gulag and camp people also throw away 'rights' in such a time of crisis?

Notre-Dame still has to be repaired after the 2019 fire, the official investigators believed the fire to have been started by a 'cigarette'. Thousands upon thousands of old cultural buildings are attacked each year in France, there have been reports over 1 thousand churches have been set afire, vandalized and subjugated to theft in France in one year alone. Some strange is happening like the Balkans, it is not Mosques or Hindu Temples getting attacked, over 80 percent of the desecrated places of worship in France are Christian churches. Today French users on Social media now report they are burning schools and Libraries, the Largest Library in Marseilles was burned down

France police shooting latest: Tourist hotspot in Marseille evacuated as police clash with protesters

https://news.yahoo.com/paris-riots-late … 52130.html


a social media news website posting viral clips

The situation in France is lost tonight.

Widespread looting and violence in at least two major cities.

https://gettr.com/post/p2kuneu58ec
Macron's forces absent.

Un bus a été incendié à Noisy-le-Sec (93).Faut quand même que je vous dise que je ne relaye  même pas le 1/10eme de ce qui se passe ce soir

https://gettr.com/post/p2kughnb10a

bus was fire bombed, I still have to show that I do not even relay 1/10th of what is happening

From other news feeds I see a type of Patriot 'Hooligan-ish' Flag waving Vigilante types of groups might be forming in the past days, a loose collection of France Patriotic types and hunting down 'rioters' while these French girls get in the way protecting the Anti-fa types wanting open borders and scream they are 'Nazi'. They are not many clips and pics but it looks very similar to the 'Proud Boys' vs 'Antifa' politics you seen with Biden and Trump in the USA these past years. The politics and culture of France however can be very different to the USA.

Bitchute and Rumble also seem to have less censorship

'President Macron filmed dancing at Elton John gig as France burns'
https://www.bitchute.com/video/1mZA2KQ4lXk/
France riots: Macron warns parents to keep children away - BBC News
https://rumble.com/v2x6px2-france-riots … -news.html
Riots in France last all night —
protesters break into stores and set police cars on fire
https://www.bitchute.com/video/vaq87wnhZ9dJ/
Tore Down the French Flag and Trashed the Holocaust Memorial
'Holocaust memorial in Paris has been trashed'
https://rumble.com/v2x9dwk-holocaust-me … ashed.html

https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1520843332744384524

Algerians riots across multiple suburbs in Paris after police shot an Algerian thug

The incident has sparked violent riots overnight, with cars and trash bins set alight and bus shelters destroyed while fireworks were set off outside the local police station.

JUST IN: France is falling into utter chaos. Someone just drove into a shopping center and everyone is looting the store
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1521618216609124363

Looting, violent riots spread to several cities in France. The situation is out of control in parts of the country.

https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1521336649542275076

Andy Ngô
https://gettr.com/post/p2kw8z5ef1f

France Riots: The famous Alcazar public library in Marseille was stormed by race rioters who set it on fire as an act of revenge for the police-shooting death of a French Algerian youth near Paris. The building is a historical former theater.


Some opinions think this will be worse than 'George Floyd' riots, people online posted they want him to declare Martial Law as Bush snr did 41st President George H. W. Bush, LA almost burning to the ground in the 1992 riots, roof top Korean-Americans defended their homes and business with guns and the California National Guard, United States military, and several federal law enforcement agencies deployed, today Emmanuel Macron the politician serving as President of France since 2017 is under pressure to declare a state of emergency.

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Canadian PM Trudeau spoke with French President Macron on wildfires, protests

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ … 023-07-01/

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Funker530 is finally starting to feel like twitter news feeds and the old Liveleak website

Chaos Engulfs France: Highlight Reel
https://funker530.com/video/chaos-engul … light-reel

Riots Erupt in Paris
https://www.itemfix.com/v?t=8j5pg3

maybe Vidmax also similar to old viral news leak websites
https://vidmax.com/video/221055-france- … he-country

No idea what this vehicle is, I have never seen it before and it looks like a super-Tank-Truck I assume its own of those civil weapons the French were holding back and maybe will fire water or some kinda pepper spray liquid gas thing or water canon?
It says 'Police' on the side so I assume it got official approval to restore 'Law and Order'
https://streamable.com/2e2pmm
Ramming vehicle into buildings, Looting, Burning it down
https://streamable.com/tfzdqi
hijackers take Trucks
https://streamable.com/xac9ff
Some foreign Arab type maybe playing weird French Rap music, crashing Big Trucks, smashing Cop cars and the  stealing Police body armor and clothes
https://streamable.com/gmqvd3
A stolen horse in the city?
https://streamable.com/6lw5pm
Fire and Explosions
https://streamable.com/usq7k2
Burning buildings in collapse
https://streamable.com/hgtvfy



Some US Alt-Media picks up the story

Macron dances as France burns
https://gettr.com/post/p2kz8uj085f

Macron condemns an open letter by soldiers including 20 retired Generals, that said the country was heading for "civil war" due to religious extremism
https://gettr.com/post/p2kzjrfa3aa

Looters Storm Shopping Center Amid Unrest in Paris Suburb
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/looters-storm … 52897.html
Mayor of Paris Anne Hidalgo and other local officials attended crisis talks to address the ongoing violence.

the Paris Mayor once made threats to shut down US media and to sue Fox News over a muslim ‘no-go zones’ news report

Twitter temporarily restricts tweets users can see
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-66077195.amp

Macron shelves Germany state visit over France riots
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/m … ts-3600181

No longer just a Japanese thing?

Bus carrying 41 Chinese tourists attacked in Marseille as violence continues in France
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202307/1293529.shtml

Paris Syndrome: culture shock sickness sends Japanese tourists packing
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/par … /t8a332he2
Paris Syndrome is a psychological condition experienced almost exclusively by Japanese tourists who are disappointed when the city of lights does not live up to their romantic expectations.

Paris Syndrome is a psychological condition experienced almost exclusively by Japanese tourists who are disappointed when the city of lights does not live up to their romantic expectations.


The syndrome, considered an extreme case of culture shock, causes symptoms such as an acute delusional state, hallucinations, anxiety, dizziness, and sweating, has been documented by medical journals.

Combined with exhaustion, language barriers, and culture barriers, homesickness and culture shock can cause serious psychological distress.

The Japanese embassy in Paris repatriates up to 20 tourists a year, sending them home with a doctor or nurse to ensure they recover from the shock.


The embassy also runs a 24-hour helpline for expatriates experiencing the syndrome.

The problem appears to be growing worse instead of improving, as there have been reports of Chinese tourists, part of the country's emerging middle class travelling abroad for the first time, experiencing the syndrome.

'France braces for a fifth night of violence as Macron cancels visit to Germany'

https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20230701-f … to-germany
Following a night where 1,300 people were arrested across France

For a while North Africa has been sending some of its worst?

On 17th day of October, 24-year-old Dahbia Benkired was indicted on charges of "murder of a minor under 15" and "rape with torture and acts of barbarism". Born in Algiers, Benkired came to France legally in May 2016 on a student visa.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/articl … 582_7.html

people were told it was illegal to share this news item, don't cause civil trouble

Do not re-tweet news in October 2022

and protesting against barbarism was said to be Neo-Nazi KKK Rightwing like Hitlerish by certain idiots in globalist media

Today
France is burning.
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1521945758616522771

Because of Macron’s weak response to the civil unrest, French business owners and residents are taking matters into their own hands.
They are arming themselves with wooden sticks, ready to protect their homes and businesses against threats.
https://gettr.com/post/p2kzdd84720

ex-generals warn of 'deadly civil war' in France
About 1,000 servicemen and women, including some 20 retired generals, put their names to the letter.
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1521953759729553419
It blamed "fanatic partisans" for creating divisions between communities, and said Islamists were taking over whole parts of the nation's territory.

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Many in France talk of a French Civil War, some say its just the same unrest as usual but....

Riots have spread beyond Belgium and into the 'Iron Bank' in Switzerland.

and the 'Space Port'

Violence engulfs French Guiana as stray bullet kills man
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ … ch-guiana/

Kourou is one of the most important launch sites for the international Space Community, a commune in French Guiana, an overseas region and department of France in South America. Kourou is famous for being the location of the Guiana Space Centre, the main spaceport of France and the European Space Agency (ESA). The JWST was launched by the Ariane rocket in Kourou, French Guiana,

Part of Guiana is protected by 3rd Foreign Infantry Regiment of the French Foreign Legion.

Seven arrested in Swiss city for vandalism inspired by French riots
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/s … s/48635210

Tour de France prepares for disruption amid civil unrest across France
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/tour-fr … 06036.html

Normally during events twitter is a place where news breaks but

Elon, NBC X media Corp Linda Yaccarino made a mess of twitter

but some political representative people have their tweets mirrored and translated on other accounts
https://gettr.com/post/p2l0vy0e4bc
'Today, we have riots against France driven by hatred towards France and the French people.'
Eric Zemmour however is also on this socialmedia website 'telegram' a mostly unmoderated drug deal gangster prostitution site filled with Russian and islamist nonsense, and heavily influenced by Arab and Marxist money, the telegram social media was also heavily involved in the USA George Floyd riots.
Another translation of Eric Zemmour

For 40 years, the State has been spending 10 billion euros per year on urban policy. And for what? So that these young people from the suburbs can burn everything.

There are also other big names in French politics like Anne Hidalgo, Nicolas Dupont-Aignan, Fabien Roussel, Philippe Poutou, Jean-Luc Mélenchon, Jean Lassalle, Nathalie Arthaud, Yannick Jadot, Valérie Pécresse and 'Le Pen' most of them are on that twitter a website which is no longer working.
People like Benoît Hamon, François Fillon, François Asselineau, Jacques Cheminade don't seem to be around much anymore, perhaps some political parties have 'retired' or died off they seem to be less active than past political events or maybe they have been involved in their own scandals, Jean-Marie Le Pen was expelled from the party by his daughter Marine in 2015, after many new controversial  shocking statements he endorsed Éric Zemmour for the 2022 French presidential election over his daughter Marine.

Zemour

We must tell the French that it's with their taxes that we will rebuild everything these people have burned.

Another US Alt media site and news organization

NEWSMAX
https://gettr.com/post/p2l0t5ub632
FRANCE HAS A 5TH NIGHT OF RIOTING: Young rioters clashed with police into early Sunday and targeted a mayor’s home with a burning car as France saw a fifth night of unrest sparked by the police killing of a teenager, according to a report.

France has a 5th night of rioting over teen’s killing by police amid signs of subsiding violence
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1522226035179917317

Thousands arrested, hundreds of cops hurt as Macron scrambles to take control.
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1522205816478765057

France Has Fallen: Migrant Mob Torch Mayor’s Home, Wife and Kids Injured Escaping
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1522228462171983878

France's 'Very Own George Floyd Moment': Multiple Cities...
https://gettr.com/post/p2kyrxtc2e5

100 rioters attacked shops and police officers
http://www.uniindia.com/~/swiss-police- … 02295.html

Asia will open first on Monday, The Nikkei 225 in Japan and you have New Zealand's commonly as the NZX

Might be interesting to watch the Stock Markets, CAC 40  a benchmark French stock market index. The index represents a capitalization-weighted measure of the 40 most significant stocks among the 100 largest market caps on the Euronext Paris, there will be insurance payouts, more debt, more business destroyed in France, and watch the volatility cash and panic moving unpredictably,, movement of Bitcoin etc Euronext Paris is the securities market, formerly known as the Paris Bourse, which merged with the Amsterdam, Lisbon and Brussels (also rioting) and Switzerland is outside the EU but has a significant French culture, it is a multi-cultural Confederation with most Swiss able to speak multiple languages.

France is on fire. For five days straight, migrant youth have been rioting across the country. But the mainstream media in North America is virtually ignoring it. Why?
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1522253625718476808
by Ezra Levant

Protestors or terrorists?
https://gettr.com/post/p2l1m599416
France: Suburban mayor’s wife hurt as rioters attack their home - BBC News

French Police Union Calls Rioters 'Vermin'
https://www.barrons.com/news/french-pol … n-f10740ea

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Mars_B4_Moon,

What are they putting in the water over there in Europe?

Elon Musk made a mess of Twitter?

Twitter used to be "leftist news", but now it's "actual news", where ideology takes a backseat to facts.  Twitter was a mess before Elon Musk arrived.  He's merely another unlucky sucker cleaning up the left's mess.  Freedom of speech for everyone, regardless of what's popular with the radical left, isn't the same thing as "only radical leftists get to share their thoughts with the world".  The radical left's ivory towers are giant toilet bowls that they don't know they're swimming in.  They live their entire lives awash in their pseudo-intellectual filth, so of course they're not used to anything but their own soil being flung back at them.  I guess a little intellectual disinfectant is anathema to people who enjoy playing with their own brain excrement.

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I wonder if the Korean-Americans arriving in a new frontier for them opening a business and seeing the mass murder and burning during the LA Riots maybe the Korean-American on a rooftop with guns learned how to be more American than Americans themselves. the newly arrived Americans they shot any Looter any person Black, White, Yellow, or Brown everyone had a equal chance of going to the grave if they attacked the home and business. In 1992 the Burning and Looting looked like it would take out the entire city, Cops pulled back and abandoned the city, but then all of a sudden that Riot got as far as Korea-Town and stopped it was an equal opportunity day for the criminal of any Ethnic Race to to die, then Bush Snr 41st President George H. W. Bush got to look like a tough guy declaring Martial Law as the Looting and Fight had more or less ended. Europe is not America it is a strange mix, it can have the very same problems as the USA maybe even worse at times while it says it has a history of being 'free' it also is a has been a place of Fascism and Communism and Monarch and Tyrant, it has never respected speech as much the United States of America did. It had freedoms in Europe, sure you have heritage of Democratic ideas in Europe, free logic thinking and the history of Rome and Greece and Republics, the French overcoming a Monarch of Tyranny and 'Magna Carta' the "Great Charter of Freedoms" agreed to by King John of England but none of this is the same as the heritage of the USA and the US Constitution, France is very different to the USA.  This event is also not unique to France a very similar event might happen for example in Sweden or in some British town/city.

Either Linda Yaccarino or Elon Musk have probably given an order to begin censoring twitter right now, for the French. The tech giants they are most probably stopping the words 'Macron' or 'Paris Rioting' or 'France' from trending. Or if twitter is not censoring outright it is perhaps shadow banning certain unwanted news. Some might argue its not censoring if you did not fully delete a hashtag # while I would argue it is censoring if they push down search results, you need to scroll down through hundreds of posts and the top 100 posts are from 1 month ago about cheese or pictures of wine and baguette before you see the real current news you are looking for. So perhaps twitter today is now forcing you to go through hundreds of pages of old news stuff before you find what you are looking for. I don't know what True Free Speech is on the web, maybe it looks like something utterly crazy and chaotic like '4-Chan'. I have my own personal views and experiences in life. I for example may have my own personal belief on restriction, I do not believe anyone under the age of 16 should be on the internet, a web where you can have Telegram Social media accounts trying to sell 'pills' to kids to make them happy...like to try some fentanyl the drug deal might ask...with a click of a mouse you have a young person watching pornography and then mentally addicted or blasted with imagery of nudity and the explicit or blood and action and gore from war zones, a kid politically blasted by islamic propaganda, hit with Nazi or Communist or Fasicst, a guy unhappy makes threats to shoot up schools another kid replies 'Do It'!...I might understand why a web would have restriction against extreme and violent stuff. You and I might have a totally different definition as to what classified as 'Free Speech' and people might have a personal subjective opinion and taste on 'Art' I for one do not see Pornography as 'Art' I also do not consider islam a religion, I think it more of an invader political cult and political social system of oppression and cultural war. I would like to see the day Taliban accounts for islamic accounts get 'fact checked' maybe under the original posts a warning FACT - 'Did you know the founder of islam was a camel jacking pedophile who married a 6 yr old girl and sucked on the tongue of young boys, it is written in their so-called holy islamic texts'. It would be nice to see these facts quoted but without doubt it might send hundreds of thousands of Low IQ islamics out rioting in their streets but Not because of a internet post but because of their own islamic violence and extremist stupidity. In the free Western World we have been told do not criticize the War or else you are a Putin Stooge, not to question election results again RussiaRussiaPissgate conspiracy theorist Biden won and Trump tried to hack Hillary Clinton's election, do not ask about these multi-colored pride predators or weird transexuals trying to make kids change their sex that's 'hate speech', George Floyd riots you don't go with the narrative...again you're Racism Hate Speech, not to question how effective a vaccine was. I personally don't need an account to browse twitter, a lot of it is mirrored so I still have a few back doors where I can go inside and look aroun twitter. I'm not a Trump fan but I thought it was crazy how much people were banned after the Riot and now today, the French of all people get to censor the world's internet.

We are told today don't worry about Elon Musk's new twitter team and the new twitter is better because he is only 'half censoring' not like the previous guy because Jack went Anti-Speech he was bad and eventually he was full censoring. I never really had a 'twitter' I didn't have much time for it but I had made a twitter account many years ago and was immediately banned, I never even got to post a single comment and only for a brief moment got to browse and look around. This was way back in the days of Jack Dorsey I briefly was in a kind of shared commune house, block kind of place. all kinds of workers, some foreign culture, maybe a student, the landlord and modified the housing and I assumed that greedy Landlord guy had bought a single internet connection for everyone so its possible 'twitter' thought I was someone else. Maybe 'Team Dorsey' seen my log-in just naturally assumed I was the same person who previously got banned for offending the Left, the Right or some perverted transsexual weird pride type offense tweet, maybe they offended some foreign government that twitter moderator admin might take offense to. I was not the previous poster but was probably banned for whatever came from that interwebs connection, I never really went back to twitter with an email, never put it on my phone. Years later they kinda opened it up a little more to the public and you could browse around with no login account, that's when I caught the odd science article or some 'breaking news' on twitter. Donald Trump used it as a political platform before he ran for election and was posting like crazy and used it in an effective way to help him win an election vs Hillary Clinton.

I think France has been ready to boil over for years but media would not talk of it and the French government they have tried to cover it up. Perhaps it can happen in parts of Sweden or Britain also and Angela Merkel in her wisdom took over 1 million of these guys, many perhaps mentally damaged from islamic warzones. Trump was absolutely correct with his immigration ban,  after the hostage crisis the Leftwing Jimmy Carter did the same and began to limit the entry of islamic Iranian aliens into the United States. There was also a weird trend by news media to run news gossip and political interference in an event just as they did during USA's George Floyd Riots, the media creating gossip, hating Police and pretending the victim is always a total innocent angel to create more 'outrage', the Media in the Western world now constantly whips up mass hysteria so so they can get a successful 5 min headline. I know someone driving around France right now as a 'tourist', what a great time to do tourism! He is the type of guy who doesn't check the news much and was wondering what the heck was going on, he turned the car around and drove in the direction of Germany.

A Firefighter in France now dies battling blaze in car park during sixth night of unrest. Almost a full week of riots. How Asia and some other parts of the world sees this, India Hindu news, Brazil, South Korea, Singapore, Japan for example.
We know some Western / European media have already made excuses for the rioters
the Brazil guy was concerned about his 'food'?

French riots an unwelcome, perilous crisis for Macron
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/f … on-3600961
'Will a new wave of unrest in France be the end of Macron’s career?'
https://www.easternherald.com/2023/07/0 … ns-career/
Youths clash with French police and loot in 4th night of riots triggered by fatal police shooting
https://www.koreaherald.com/global_insi … ud=x8m6m5e
Macron pushes for an end to looting as riots test his authority
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/ … cron-test/
Brazilian President Lula’s Latest Gaffe Is Criticizing Food He Got in Italy, France
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles … and-france

As difficult it is for Poland to take in millions upon million of refugee people from Ukraine or as difficult as it has been for the USA to be almost totally over run from a culture of illegals from Latin America I would take at least some of common heritage that make at least understands some kind of shared concept like Government or Christianity or Democracy or they would perhaps have something in common. Europe did have some genuine refugees from Arabia and other place but it is going to suffer because trash also they let into their countries so much criminal islamist jihadi trash, Maghrebi ‘banlieue’ is more than a death of one guy there currently is outright hatred of the French homeland culture my multiple foreign cultures and they Burn and Loot and Ravage and Pillage as a Horde would do across France. The gangster thief culture of islamism/jihad and Democracy will most probably Never Co-Exist together.

There seem to be some releases from the Ministry of the French Interior and Director General of the France National Police. People from the Army and Police have also signed joint letters saying if Macron does not get things done they will step in themselves and take over. Some say France is about to go into Full Lockdown, maybe full internet blackout for some but only for some, censorship in certain areas of trouble. Rumors say soon it will go into 'Restrictions' another 'Lockdown' you know that 2 weeks to flatten the curve type thing,
but not 'Martial Law', French are still Liberal equal brothers, the political type they announce France is still a Free country! they still have Liberty and Bortherhood they say on the Tv!
people in the towns and cities will have 24 hrs and should secure food and water.

Substack opinions on the events

In the year 2023…an experiment has gone intentionally astray: the authoritarian model of chaos to create the necessary stew to seize all the remaining rights of the People for Totalitarian Rule. France is well known for its Revolutionary Spirits.
https://jasonpowers.substack.com/p/robo … pet-macron
Though at present, its is not completely clear who are all the members boiling the pot across the country. But it is clear that: policies and police are the main courses served up to the population there.

Race Riots and Culture Wars
https://bonnerprivateresearch.substack. … lture-wars
La revolución comes to France as the country braces for yet more violence...

The death of Nahel was a tragic event that triggered a wave of violence and destruction in France. It revealed the underlying problems and tensions that exist in French society between different groups and institutions.
https://madscientist1.substack.com/p/fr … -was-nahel
It also challenged the political leadership and legitimacy of Macron’s government. It remains to be seen how the situation will evolve and what solutions will be found to prevent further escalation or recurrence of such riots.

France has been rocked with some large scale rioting and social unrest after the police shooting of a 17 year old teenager. Paris, Toulouse, and other cities have seen widespread acts of arson, looting and violence.
https://arbitrageandy.substack.com/p/fr … -july-send
In some cities rioters have gained access to police weapon stockpiles and are out on the streets firing off rounds — there are also reports of police shooting on protestors. Nearly 40,000 officers have been mobilized

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Mars_B4_Moon,

Those of us on the right gave fair warning to Elon Musk that Yaccarino was another petty tyrant.  He put her in charge anyway, and naturally, she's doing what all petty tyrants normally do when confronted with ugly reality.  Macron is merely another of the radical left's weak-sauce petty tyrants.  He's being himself.  Why should this surprise anyone?  Leftists have skin that's thinner than Miami bikinis, which is the crux of the problem.  If someone farts in their general direction, they get offended and want to silence anyone who disagrees with their opinions.

We no longer have news media in America, in case you didn't already know that.  We have left / right political opinion media to avert the attention of the peasants from the robber barons, which espouses the divisive yapping points of the people paying their salaries.  I quit watching altogether, years ago, and it's one of the best decisions I've made.

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The United States has ordered the partial evacuation of its embassy in Niger following last week's coup
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-66390918

Mutilation of kids, hormone blocking?

'Years from now, society is going to look back and be appalled at the medical horrors it allowed to transpire in the name of liberalism and tolerance.'
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/16 … 7688484864

Canadian Court Invalidates Covid Lockdowns Due To Illegal Implementation
https://thefederalist.com/2023/08/02/ca … mentation/

the religion jihadi islamo nutjobs who have 'Analyst' professions
https://www.frontpagemag.com/muslim-ara … ns-turkey/

Muslim Arab Analyst Claims Secret Jewish Lobby Runs Turkey-Welcome to the twisted fantasy world of Tabarak al-Raadi.

France Riots almost full Race Wars but real Race Wars in South Africa?
'Crosses on highway South Africa for farmers murdered 2018-2022'
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8Ljesg6/

Yellen speaks out on US Dollar and World Economy with Downgrades US Credit Rating from AAA to AA+

US credit downgrade ‘entirely unwarranted’: Yellen

https://www.brecorder.com/news/40256048


No more shopping, crime is rising, every single store on Market Street SF closed

https://youtu.be/5UWIyGDnHmk

NYC's Roosevelt Hotel becomes epicenter of city's 60,000-strong refugee crisis in shocking scenes from Manhattan

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … -over.html

Ukrainian Troops Trained by the West Stumble in Battle
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-tr … 29286.html

NY Times
The first several weeks of Ukraine’s long-awaited counteroffensive have not been kind to the Ukrainian troops who were trained and armed by the United States and its allies. Equipped with advanced American weapons and heralded as the vanguard of a major assault, the troops became bogged down in dense Russian minefields under constant fire from artillery and helicopter gunships. Units got lost. One unit delayed a nighttime attack until dawn, losing its advantage. Another fared so badly that commanders yanked it off the battlefield altogether.

Poland seen Belarus cross into Polish airspace, accusing them of intrusion

Troops to the Border

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ … s-airspace

Poland to send more troops to Belarus border, Minsk denies ‘airspace violation’
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2023 … an-capital

and like the politics 'Take A Knee' for George Floyd Rioters and Burning and Lootings, the US Fans are rooting against the U.S. women’s soccer national team because of a national anthem controversy. US women's soccer team doesn't sing national anthem during third 2023 World Cup matchup with Portugal

some blame politics, some point out past events and players

Megan Rapinoe accused of "poisoning" USWNT in "shameful" national anthem controversy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb … tugal.html

'A disgrace': Donald Trump's 2020 election indictment sparks split among Republicans
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol … 512718007/

Fla. Rep. Cammack says scuttled Hunter Biden plea deal could mean ‘impeachment for his father’
https://nypost.com/2023/07/30/rep-camma … is-father/

as for Hollywood being dead...it seems they can make money after all

'Has Barbie or Oppenheimer made more money at the box office?'
https://www.thedigitalfix.com/barbie/or … box-office

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SAfrica opposition urges BRICS leaders to boycott summit to support Putin
https://www.manilatimes.net/2023/07/31/ … in/1903135

EFF leader defends “Kill the Boer” song after Musk’s condemnation
https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/ef … 23-latest/


The first South African Khoisan bush people, next Boers or speakers of Afrikaans descendants of the Dutch-speaking Free Burghers of the eastern Cape frontier in Southern Africa during the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries they build all those European Dutch style buildings and cities, today it has 11 or maybe 12 official languages and least thirty-five spoken , they now say twelve of which are official languages of South Africa: Ndebele, Pedi, Sotho, Swati, Tsonga, Tswana, Venda, Xhosa, there are also outside Bantu languages from Niger, Chad, Nigeria, Zaire, Gabon and the Congo. It was supposed to last the "Rainbow nation" term coined by Archbishop Desmond Tutu to describe post-apartheid South Africa after South Africa's first fully democratic election,  they said it would be a rainbow nation at peace with itself and the world. Many political ideas, Multiculturalism, the poly multiple languages and many religions, the Multiracial democracy and now becoming a failure?


Africa’s latest coup is a headache for the West and an opportunity for Russia
https://www.aol.com/news/africa-latest- … 18047.html

Biden calls on Niger’s junta to release Bazoum and restore democracy
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ … med-bazoum

‘Catastrophe’: Volodymyr Zelensky’s grim warning as he accuses Vladimir Putin of trying to collapse global food markets
https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/c … 9e6fa148b6

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Niger Coup Weakens Fight Against Terror in Africa, French Minister Says
https://www.voanews.com/a/niger-coup-we … 13170.html

Fears for Americans trapped in Niger as State Department issues emergency evacuation of embassy for some staff
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … -coup.html

Global food prices rise after Russia ends grain deal and India restricts rice exports
https://english.elpais.com/internationa … ports.html

Most Americans oppose more funding for Ukraine in war with Russia: CNN Poll
https://en.protothema.gr/most-americans … -cnn-poll/

CNN Poll: Majority of Americans oppose more US aid for Ukraine in war with Russia
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics … index.html

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#2350 2023-08-06 14:20:29

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Mars_B4_Moon,

Most Americans are wondering why we haven't even attempted peace talks with Russia before tens to low hundreds of millions of people starve to death without Ukrainian food exports, as this war drags on and on, with no clear indication of what constitutes a victory in Ukraine.  For my fellow Americans, Russia won't stop at Ukraine.  Poland is next on their list, and then we will be fighting another major land war in Europe, like it or not.  Russia wants to reacquire all the countries it previously occupied when the Soviet Union still existed.  Putin wrote a paper on this, but most of you probably never read it.  However, this is not "Putin's war with Ukraine".  All the other potential players who the Russians will allow to serve in leadership roles think the same way.  The only Russian political dissidents who think otherwise are either in prison or dead.  This is the cheapest the war with Russia will ever be.

On top of that bad news, China might attempt to invade Taiwan in the near future.  The war with the Chinese CCCP, will be "Pacific War Part 2", because much like the war against Imperial Japan, the Chinese communists cannot be appeased and they're desperate for energy.  We kicked off WWII, before the Pearl Harbor attacks, by backing the Japanese into a corner, as it related to their oil supply.  FDR fully intended to send a ship to start hostilities with the Japanese, similar to the Gulf of Tonkin incident, and most of you probably never knew about that, either.  The US Navy later court-martialed the Captain sent to do that (attempt to provoke the Japanese into firing upon his ship), prior to learning about who authorized him to do it, and then swept the matter under the rug after the Japanese obliged and started WWII for us.

So, for those of you who detest war, I highly suggest you support Ukraine in their struggle against Russia, and that we actively discourage the Chinese from attempting to invade Taiwan or its other neighbors, like Viet Nam, by increasing US military presence, primarily the US Navy, in the South China Sea, to preclude the possibility of any surprise invasion of Taiwan, else your children will be fighting another WWII in the Pacific, this time against the Chinese CCCP.  Hopefully said war with China will remain conventional in nature.  It will only go nuclear if our President makes the colossal error in judgement of attempting to invade mainland China.  The same applies with Russia.  So long as we don't invade Russia, they won't be using any nuclear weapons.

Please also note that there are ongoing internal power struggles in Russia.  The loss of economic prosperity in China will eventually result in the same thing happening there.  All bets are off after that happens.  North Korea is not really a factor.  Iran may or may not be a factor.  If the Chinese become involved in their own Gulf Wars to secure their supply of oil, then that entire region will be more of a mess than it already is.  India is a wild card, but they remain heavily pro-Russian.  Future life here in America will be shaped by events in Asia and the Middle East, along with half of South America invading through our Southern Border, which is our most pressing immediate problem.

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