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#126 2023-04-09 08:16:34

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I mentioned Quebec in another thread, its Rail still in operation, a discussion on Tramway, Cablecar. If it were not for France the Roman Catholic Churches probably would not have spread as much in North America.

Macron is in Asia making deals, this is not the first time French got criticism

'France = axis of Evil'
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=637

Archbishop of Canterbury warns of 'divine justice' in Easter sermon
https://news.sky.com/story/archbishop-o … n-12853069
Reflecting on the war in Ukraine and other conflicts around the world

Prince Andrew makes rare appearance just behind King as royals attend Easter service
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/pr … e-29665955

Catholic Church denies using legal loopholes to 'low-ball' child sex abuse survivors
https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/stor … ile-cases/

More religious or more democratic? Israel protests become fight for country's 'essential character'
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-pr … -1.6792483

Activist arrested on suspicion of planning animal sacrifice on Temple Mount
https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/jns … 28087.html

'An overview of freedom of religion in Vietnam'
https://vovworld.vn/en-US/current-affai … 183558.vov

The Voice of Vietnam or VOV is the Vietnamese national radio broadcaster it is directly controlled by the government of Vietnam

Vietnam’s ethnic minorities follow many different beliefs and religions, so the Vietnamese Party and State have always paid attention to respecting their way of life  and ensuring their right to freedom of belief and religion.

Church of the Holy Sepulcher, monk's fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryA_RPiSPRw

Thousands join Israeli judicial protests in shadow of deadly attacks
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/a … y-attacks/

Israeli strikes target Hamas in Lebanon and Gaza after rocket attack
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea … 023-04-06/

The IDF have conducted air strikes against positions in Gaza and Lebanon after rocket attacks were launched at Israel
https://greekreporter.com/2023/04/07/is … za-attack/

'Why religious buildings are so important to our heritage'
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/why-religious … 00357.html

CREEPING SHARIA: Now Ramadan fast-breaking by Muslim players interrupts English football matches
https://barenakedislam.com/2023/04/08/c … l-matches/

Ramadan in Nigeria: Muslims murder nine Christians in Plateau State
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2023/04/rama … teau-state

Ramadan is the month in which Muslims redouble their efforts to please Allah. So Ramadan would be the ideal time for jihad attacks against non-Muslims, as it is the month in which observant Muslims try to do more of what Allah wants them to do. “Kill them wherever you find them,” says the Qur’an

May 8 launch for private mission to ISS with Saudi astronauts
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/May_ … s_999.html

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#127 2023-04-12 06:59:55

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The Dalai Lama turned out to be another criminal pedophile running a cult?

"Penn & Teller: Bull sh * t!" Holier Than Thou, did a tv show and ripped him apart and ripped into other religions many years ago.

He used to get millions a year in the from the weirdos Central Intelligence Agency, but when that ran out he ran to the weirdos of Hollywood some of them liked fringe hippie lifestyles in Asia, Saiva and Pancharatra Hindu traditions, local god/goddess cults, Yaksha or Tantras which contained transgressive practices such as ingesting alcohol and other forbidden substances as well as sexual rituals. Other ideas found in the Buddhist Tantras is the revaluation of the body and its use in attaining great 'bliss' certain Hollywood types would then fund this Shangri-La money funding to a fictional Utopia place in the clouds, Steven Seagal was one for a while, there were rumors they would make him into a Tibet god diety thing, he since moved to join team Putin. The controversial 'LaRouche' people had articles on the Tibetan guru is shown here with Esoteric Hitler-ist Miguel Serrano, next with the MetToo scandals High ranking members of NXIVM human traffickers joined him on stage he also had links to Shoko Asahara of the Aum Shinrikyo cult.
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio … _Revisited
Shoko Asahara was convicted of masterminding the deadly 1995 sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway, and was also involved in several other crimes. Asahara was sentenced to death in 2004, and his final appeal failed in 2011. In June 2012, his execution was postponed due to further arrests of Aum members. He was ultimately executed on July 6, 2018.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140223003 … 50620.html

The Fourteenth Dalai Lama’s national socialist friends
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/soci … t-2-12.htm


Abuse survivors ‘horrified’ at Dalai Lama’s ‘blatant sexual act’ after kissing young boy
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/17 … uck-tongue

Dalai Lama apologizes for bizarre "suck my tongue" remark

https://international.la-croix.com/news … mark/17641

Cardi B slams Dalai Lama’s tongue sucking debacle: ‘Predators’ are everywhere
https://nypost.com/2023/04/11/cardi-b-s … verywhere/

This world is full of predators,” the rapper tweeted as footage of the Tibetan spiritual leader’s questionable encounter

Dalai Lama, apologises after kissing young boy on the lips and asking the child to 'suck' his tongue in bizarre interaction
https://www.msn.com/

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#128 2023-04-14 14:45:41

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First century, according to sacred tradition in the East Roman Empire, in Judea, Roman Empire, according to sacred tradition, Constantinople now occupied by descendant of mohammedan invaders and Turkmenistani speakers is generally considered to be the center and the "cradle of Orthodox Christian civilization".  The church in Egypt (Patriarchate of Alexandria) split into two groups following the Council of Chalcedon (451), over a dispute about the relation between the divine and human natures of Jesus. Eventually this led to each group anathematizing the other. Those that remained in communion with the other patriarchs (by accepting the Council of Chalcedon) are known today as the Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria, where the adjective "Greek" refers to their ties to the Greek-speaking culture of the Byzantine Empire. Those who disagreed with the findings of the Council of Chalcedon were the majority in Egypt. Today they are known as the Coptic Orthodox Church, having maintained a separate patriarchate. The Coptic Orthodox Church is currently the largest Christian church in Egypt and in the whole Middle East. There was also a similar, albeit smaller scale, split in Syria (Patriarchate of Antioch), which resulted in the separation of the Syriac Orthodox Church from the Byzantine Patriarchate of Antioch.Those who disagreed with the Council of Chalcedon are sometimes called "Oriental Orthodox" to distinguish them from the "Eastern Orthodox", who accepted the Council of Chalcedon. New Separations and Old Believers (17th century) True Orthodox (1920s) large numbers in Romania, Greece, Belarus, Serbia, Bulgaria, Moldova, Georgia, North Macedonia, Cyprus, and Montenegro, and there are significant minorities in Kazakhstan, Germany, Spain, Bosnia and Herzegovina, the United States, and Uzbekistan.

63 religious organisations have joined Orthodox Church of Ukraine since beginning of 2023
https://news.yahoo.com/63-religious-org … 23095.html

When is Orthodox Easter 2023 and in what ways is it different?
https://metro.co.uk/2023/04/09/when-is- … -18573124/

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#129 2023-04-28 06:33:23

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Russia’s Patriarch Kirill first name on Czech national sanctions list
https://english.radio.cz/russias-patria … st-8781477
The Czech government has placed the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, on its national sanctions list

ISRO to send uncrewed rocket as part of Gaganyaan Mission
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/scien … 766469.ece

India has religion cultural elements to its program and it is also testing a reusable space-plane

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#130 2023-04-30 03:54:57

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Dissent from war is treason, says Patriarch Kirill
https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/ … rch-kirill
has again lauded current Russian war efforts in Ukraine

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#131 2023-05-08 09:17:44

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Scientists in India Protest Move To Drop Darwinian Evolution From Textbooks

https://www.science.org/content/article … -textbooks

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#132 2023-05-14 05:07:39

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Kenyan ‘starvation cult’ death toll rises to over 200

https://metro.co.uk/2023/05/13/kenyan-s … -18779682/

The Good News International Ministries (GNIM), commonly known as the Malindi cult and previously as the Servant P. N. Mackenzie Ministries, is a new religious movement based in Shakahola, Kilifi, Kenya, that was founded by Paul Nthenge Mackenzie and his first wife in 2003.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230423214 … ult-leader

GNIM attracted international attention in April 2023 when it was revealed that Mackenzie had allegedly instructed members to starve themselves en masse to "meet Jesus," resulting in the deaths of 201 people. According to the group's website and news media reports, GNIM has been influenced by the End-Time Message of William Branham, an informal global network of churches that emerged from Oneness Pentecostalism. Oneness Pentecostalism (also known as Apostolic, Jesus' Name Pentecostalism, or the Jesus Only movement) is a nontrinitarian religious movement within the Protestant Christian family of churches known as Pentecostalism. It derives its distinctive name from its teaching on the Godhead, which is popularly referred to as the Oneness doctrine, a form of Modalistic Monarchianism.

The group, often described pejoratively as a cult, is adamantly anti-Western, with amenities such as health care, education, and sports being dismissed as "evils of western life" and with Mackenzie condemning the United States, the United Nations, and the Catholic Church as "tools of Satan". The group also devotes much of its teachings to the end times. They are purportedly followers of the End-Time Message of William Branham. Homicide detectives working the case said the group was radicalized by Branham's teachings, leading to their deaths

Good News International Ministries was founded in 2003 by Paul Nthenge Mackenzie, as a small church. Before the founding, Mackenzie worked as a taxi driver in Nairobi from 1997 to 2003, during which he was charged four times for his sermons but was acquitted due to lack of evidence. When the church began to prosper, the duo moved to Migingo Village in Malindi. Mackenzie was able to amass a large following, largely via convincing his congregation that he could personally communicate with God

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#133 2023-05-28 05:28:57

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When Apollo 8 read from the Book of Genesis it perhaps gave them comfort maybe they had personal reasons.

Sometimes I will criticize superstition, religions and zealotry. I don't push any religion and I have criticized Buddhist culture but there is a person in entertainment that will be missed.
https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1661455138450558976

Tina Turner, honored by NASA websites,

the sad of loss an entertainer with great feats, she was described as 'The Queen of Rock and Roll'. She had a busy life, born Anna Mae Bullock she later recalled picking cotton with her family at an early age. She one of the few that could get away with singing 'Simply the Best' a cover of a Welsh pop song The Best, a great cover and tribute to another artists work, it is a song  co-written by other artists without any sound of arrogance and the original artist Bonnie Tyler a successful artist with six million UK single units sold and one million copies in the United States, Bonnie Tyler admitted Tina Tuner sang it better than she ever could. Tina Turner was born in the United States of America, she had success in the USA, she unapologetically moved to Switzerland for its calmness, its normal relaxed life and its discrete location. Edwin Bach in Switzerland an executive with the European record label EMI, Erwin donated a kidney to Tina after she started experiencing severe health issues. Her other husband where she got her stage name 'Turner' was a cocaine addict and an alcoholic and would go into violent rage, a torturous marriage to Ike Turner, relentless abuse and suffering behind closed doors. Tina Turner was a great entertainer and had great stage performance and one of her songs spent three weeks at No. 1, after the end of the band 'Ike & Tina Turner' she launched one of music’s most successful comebacks. the semi-autobiographical film What's Love Got to Do starred Angela Bassett as Tina Turner and Laurence Fishburne as Ike Turner; they received Best Actress and Best Actor Oscar nominations for their roles. Her European Tour, which drew in nearly four million spectators—breaking the record for a European tour that was previously set by the Rolling Stones. In Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Tina Turner set a Guinness World Record for the largest paying concert attendance for a solo artist. Tina Turner often said she felt part of her was Native American, on a tracing your genetic roots and ancestry tv series she discovered in test she was 1% Native American, she was 66% Sub-Saharan African and 33% European DNA ancestry. Tina had previously thought that her mother had significant Native American heritage.  Her family was Baptist and worshiped at both Woodlawn Missionary Baptist Church and Spring Hill Baptist Church. They also sometimes attended a Black Pentecostal church near Knoxville, Tennessee.
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'As I found while doing research for my forthcoming book, “Dancing in My Dreams: A Spiritual Biography of Tina Turner,” Turner’s religious influences extended beyond the forms of Afro-Protestant institutional religion. In her memoir “Happiness Becomes You,” Turner describes the deep, mystical connection that her grandmother had to nature, which suggests that her grandmother was immersed in the more mystical strands of Black Southern religious culture. Tina Turner She often spoke about finding Buddhism 50 years ago'
https://www.eerdmans.com/Products/7863/ … reams.aspx
Tina Turner would regularly post videos of her chants of Namu Myoho Renge Kyo words chanted within all forms of Nichiren Japan Buddhism. Tina Turner said her practice of religion chats sustained her

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isXLBHCDo4Y

Religion chat from Buddhism gave her comfort

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#134 2023-05-28 06:13:34

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For Mars_B4_Moon ...

Thanks for your remembrance of Tina Turner, and best wishes for success with your book project on her life!

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Not my book project Tahanson but I would not mind researching more about her life, I never played any of her songs with friends but I probably would have enjoyed playing in a covers band that did tribute to her songs. You would need a great vocalist and this woman a very unique story, Tina Turner on stage had incredible energy.

Some other news from the Hindu Nationalists

India Cuts Periodic Table and Evolution From School Textbooks
https://science.slashdot.org/story/23/0 … -textbooks

The news that evolution would be cut from the curriculum for students aged 15-16 was widely reported last month, when thousands of people signed a petition in protest. But official guidance has revealed that a chapter on the periodic table will be cut, too, along with other foundational topics such as sources of energy and environmental sustainability.

Younger learners will no longer be taught certain pollution- and climate-related topics, and there are cuts to biology, chemistry, geography, mathematics and physics subjects for older school students.

Researchers, including those who study science education, are shocked. "Anybody who's trying to teach biology without dealing with evolution is not teaching biology as we currently understand it," says Jonathan Osborne, a science-education researcher at Stanford University in California. "It's that fundamental to biology." The periodic table explains how life's building blocks combine to generate substances with vastly different properties, he adds, and "is one of the great intellectual achievements of chemists."

This country killed hundreds upon hundreds of its own people by telling them to drink Cow Urine during the election cycle

they constantly promote voodoo superstition and quackery

Herbs, cow dung and urine passed off as wonder drugs
https://www.rfi.fr/en/international/202 … -hit-india

Photographs from Gujarat state showed people smearing themselves with a mix of cow dung and urine and later washing it off with milk in the belief the exercise boosted immunity against the virus.

Cows are revered as holy in Hinduism but medical experts said the therapy could spread diseases from animals to humans.

maybe this is how they helped create such a unique 'variant'

Why is India dropping evolution and the periodic table from school science?
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01750-2

they can still learn a song

The Periodic Table Song, "Can-Can" music, by Offenbach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgVQKCcfwnU

Iron isthe26th
ThenCobalt, Nickel coins you get
Copper, Zinc and Gallium
Germanium and Arsenic
Selenium and Bromine film
While Krypton helpslightupyourroom
Rubidium and Strontium then Yttrium, Zirconium

Chorus

Niobium, Molybdenum, Technetium
Rut he ni um, Rhodium, Palladium
Sil ver-wa er then Cadmium and Indium
Tin-cans, Antimony then Tellurium and Iodine and Xenon and then Caesium and

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#136 2023-06-07 14:41:20

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'Cargo Cults' for example the Prince Philip movement

https://web.archive.org/web/20140317032 … for-Philip

is a religious sect followed by the Kastom people around the villages of Yaohnanen and Yakel on the southern island of Tanna in Vanuatu. It is a cargo cult of the Yaohnanen tribe, who believed in the divinity of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh...but he's dead now.

Many of the tribesmen believe that while his body lies at rest, the Duke's soul will return to "its spiritual home, the island of Tanna"

The most widely known period of cargo cult activity occurred among the Melanesian islanders in the years during and after World War II. A small population of indigenous peoples observed, often directly in front of their dwellings, the largest war ever fought by technologically advanced nations. The Japanese distributed goods and used the beliefs of the Melanesians to attempt to gain their compliance.[5] Later the Allied forces arrived in the islands. The vast amounts of military equipment and supplies that both sides airdropped (or airlifted to airstrips) to troops on these islands meant drastic changes to the lifestyle of the islanders, many of whom had never seen outsiders before. Manufactured clothing, medicine, canned food, tents, weapons and other goods arrived in vast quantities for the soldiers, who often shared some of it with the islanders who were their guides and hosts. This was true of the Japanese Army as well, at least initially before relations deteriorated in most regions. The John Frum cult, one of the most widely reported and longest-lived, formed on the island of Tanna, Vanuatu. This movement started before the war, and became a cargo cult afterwards. Cult members worshiped certain unspecified Americans having the name "John Frum" or "Tom Navy" who they claimed had brought cargo to their island during World War II and whom they identified as being the spiritual entity who would provide cargo to them in the future.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6370991.stm

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How to Keep a Job as you are expected to Pray at the Mosque up to Five Times Per Day!

Austria: 37% of Syrian migrants, 22% of Afghan migrants, and 20% of Chechen migrants are unemployed
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2023/06/aust … unemployed

What Is the Future of Hindu Nationalism in India?
https://thediplomat.com/2023/05/what-is … -in-india/
The question is not whether Hindu nationalism will be part of India’s political landscape, but whether and to what extent non-Hindus will be able to play a role.

Pakistan: Muslim policeman opens fire on Christian school van, murdering two girls, wounding five others
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2023/06/paki … ive-others

“Make ready for them all that you can of force and of warhorses, so that by them you may strike terror in the enemy of Allah and your enemy…” (Qur’an 8:60)

“Pakistan: Bishops’ Patience Exhausted After Killings at Catholic School,” by Daniela Bovolenta, Bitter Winter

https://bitterwinter.org/pakistan-bisho … ic-school/

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India arrests

Kendrapada cops recover 4 idols, nab former priest
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit … 980425.cms

Former Odisha priest arrested for stealing idols from temples
https://www.newindianexpress.com/states … 84940.html
Kendrapara police claimed to have busted an idol lifting racket by arresting the former priest of a mutt in Jajpur

Sri Lankan comedian arrested for a joke about Buddhism
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/pr … /102487838

Sri Lanka: Comedian and YouTube content creator arrested over Buddhism satire
https://ifex.org/sri-lanka-comedian-and … sm-satire/
Sri Lankan comedian Nathasha Edirisooriya was arrested based on allegations that she had made derogatory remarks about Lord Buddha and Buddhist Girl's Schools.

Nathasha Edirisooriya arrested at airport over remarks on Buddhism
https://www.dailymirror.lk/breaking_new … 108-259978

Comedian and YouTube content creator arrested in Sri Lanka over satire on Buddhism
https://globalvoices.org/2023/06/06/com … -buddhism/

Nothing to see here?

Posts falsely claim prominent lawyer 'represented Sri Lankan comedian arrested for blasphemy'
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.33GY7VZ

Sri Lanka is officially a Buddhist country, while Sri Lankan's practices a variety of religions. As of the 2012 census, 70.2% of Sri Lankans were Buddhists, 12.6% were Hindus, 9.7% were Muslims (mainly Sunni), 7.4% were Christians (mostly Catholics).

Buddhism is declared as the State religion of Sri Lanka and has been given special privileges in the Sri Lankan constitution such as the government is bound for protection and fostering of Buddhist Dharma throughout the nation

Sri Lanka news source?

Woman jailed in Germany for keeping Yazidi woman as slave
https://island.lk/woman-jailed-in-germa … -as-slave/
BBC reported that a German woman who joined the Islamic State (IS) group has been jailed for nine years

The terrorist Islamic State had its core in Iraq and Syria from 2013 to 2017 and 2019 respectively, where the proto-state controlled significant swathes of urban, rural, and desert territory, mainly in the Mesopotamian region.  Islamic State also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant also known by its Arabic acronym Da'ish or Daesh was mostly destroyed but has seen a comeback of sorts in Afghanistan.

On the Jewish faith

Sicily’s Jews have their first rabbi in 500 years. Italy’s Jewish establishment won’t accept them.
https://forward.com/news/550608/sicilys … cept-them/

Orthodox rabbis join the conversation on LGBTQ inclusion
https://azjewishpost.com/2015/orthodox- … inclusion/

In Jerusalem, talking about violence against Christians is risky
https://international.la-croix.com/news … isky/18008
Recent university conference in Jerusalem on increasing acts of violence against Christians in the Holy City

18 Points DESTROYING Kanye’s ‘Fake Jews’ Ignorance
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/18-poin … ignorance/
Recently, catalyzed by Kanye West’s recent obsession with the Jewish people

The corruption and perversion inside Christian churches

Another Pastor Arrested and Convicted

Former OC pastor sentenced to 186 years to life for molesting 2 girls
https://www.audacy.com/947thewave/news/ … ng-2-girls

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It might be more wise to ban islamics and the corrupted and jihad type from Police rather than a symbol?

Holland aka the Netherlands

Police will be banned from wearing religious items of clothing such as headscarves, yarmulkes, and crucifixes with their uniform. “With this regulation, there will be clarity about the neutrality of the uniform”

https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/06/ban-on … ed-in-law/

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They can burn Jewish text or Christian text and texts from other religion but Once again the pedophile islamic Moongod called al-Lah was 'offended'

pop concerts bombed, mass shootings and death threats sent to guys who made South Park ...none of these murders truly offend

and Rushdie already had his Iran Fatwa

'Protesters surround Swedish embassy in Baghdad'

https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/2 … n-baghdad/

radical cleric Moqtada Al Sadr called for protests at the site

enjoys widespread support among many devout Shiite Muslims

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sometimes each person on Earth has their own unique path, they have their story, it can have religion

For example a faith could have a unique experience with Art, Worship, Paint and Devotion

Space and Art -- How will art find its place in space?
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/space-ar … -brunswick

'The Cosmos in Ancient Greek Religious Experience'
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/co … 1CE28A7941

A Christian Church, a Shinto icon, a religious kid who grows to be slightly Atheist who remains spiritual while rejecting a far older tradition,  a Jewish heritage family and a son with fringe new age comedy sketch, Hindu music, a Buddhist statue, paintings The Baptism of Christ,  The Virgin of the Rocks Leonardo da Vinci there is Sikh worship where prayers, called ragas, are sung by ragis who lead the worship and old Native American Shaman religion and dance and costume, some people in America become neo-pagan observe the Moon and Sun as a spiritual experience...there are other new religion the Mormon, sometimes a new faith, the new Cultist.  In older faith Egypt faiths are no longer accepted as legitimate and  others more legit, the synagogues they are often decorated with pictures of plants, trees and religious symbols.

How would Mars colonies respond to new art and music on the offworld when it emits sound and image elements of religious art.

Could an image become iconic and repeated as it did on Earth 'The Creation of Adam' by Michelangelo Buonarroti

Some ideas from religion stay current as a subject matter for example the plot of 'conspiracy' and The Last Supper or Da Vinci code books

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Numerology  also linked to old belief of alchemy and arithmancy the surviving old belief in an occult, divine or mystical relationship between a number and one or more coinciding events and Gematria the practice of assigning a numerical value to a name, word or phrase

That role of a Robot AI religion?

Would it be possible on Mars, there are many on the Left who began to Follow UFO-religion and Conspiracy but it also went to the Right

That Q-Anon cult?

QAnon leader Michael Protzman dies in dirtbike accident, followers claim it’s just a hoax
https://nypost.com/2023/07/06/qanon-lea … -accident/
A leader of the QAnon conspiracy cult died last weekend in a dirt bike accident — though his minions believe his death is fabricated and part of a larger plan.

Michael Protzman, 60, known to his followers as Negative 48, died Friday in the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota a week after an accident at the Meadow Valley Motocross track in Millville, Minnesota, VICE News confirmed.

According to the medical examiner, Protzman succumbed to his “multiple blunt force injuries” after he “lost control of his dirt bike.”

Protzman served as a god-like figure to his thousands of cult followers since rising to notoriety in 2021.

He was known for spreading conspiracies on his Telegram channel that mixed QAnon beliefs and a bastardized version of Gematria, a Jewish numerology system, which he claimed to be able to use to predict the future.

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Not a Theocracy on Mars, not yet but wait? Theocracy is a form of government in which absolute power is vested in a Temple or a religion book or a type of deity the mob prays to, that deity or god-entity who in turn is represented by its human religious leaders who give the mob guidance from the religion scrolls or text or 'holy' books.

India seems critical of the religious independent Sikh movement in Canada, India however is ruled by religious Hindu Nationalists?

‘Misuse of freedom of expression …’ India slams Canadian PM Trudeau-led govt over Khalistan issue

https://zeenews.india.com/video/world/m … 31947.html

Khalistan movement is a separatist movement seeking to create a homeland for Sikhs by establishing an ethno‐religious sovereign state. On the morning of 31 October 1984, Indira Gandhi was assassinated in New Delhi by her two personal security guards Satwant Singh and Beant Singh, both Sikhs, in retaliation for Operation Blue Star. The assassination triggered the 1984 anti-Sikh riots across North India. While the ruling party, Indian National Congress (INC), maintained that the violence was due to spontaneous riots, its critics have alleged that INC members themselves had planned a pogrom against the Sikhs.  Sikh diaspora is the modern Sikh migration from the traditional area of the Punjab region of India. Sikhism is a religion native to this region. The Sikh diaspora is largely a subset of the Punjabi diaspora, Sikhs are traditionally an agrarian community, and with the pressures of having only a limited amount of land, high birth rates, and the desire to make a better living, male offspring of Sikh farmers were encouraged to migrate to foreign countries, with significant Sikh communities becoming established in the Philippines, Canada, the UK, US, Malaysia, East Africa, Australia, and Thailand. Sikh diaspora, especially in south Vancouver, Canada, and the UK, become willing suppliers of logistical and financial support when the organic agitation for a separate Sikh nation, Khalistan, began in the late 1970s. In Europe the secularism of France banned turban-wearing Sikh students from publicly funded schools as part of a broader policy originally intended to restrict Muslim headscarves, security think tanks have quoted the Air India bombing of innocent travelers to justify profiling of Sikh travelers. On the 1st day of October 2017, Canadian politician Jagmeet Singh, a Sikh, was elected leader of the Canada federal New Democratic Party,  Gurbir Grewal became attorney general of New Jersey—the first practicing Sikh in the US to become a state attorney general.


in France the Secular doesn't seem to work anymore, thousands upon thousands of cultural buildings and over a 1,000 churches have been set afire, vandalized and subjugated to theft in France, of course France doesn't want to talk about its islamic gangster problem the usual official explanation is a random 'cigarette' is making all these fires

A 16th century Catholic Church has been burnt to the ground
https://twitter.com/CatholicArena/statu … 3355726859
The steeple of Eglise Notre Dame Drosnay can be seen collapsing on video. French churches are being destroyed every week

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One day there might be a Neo-Jihadist

a Nu-Cyberpunk-Paganism religion


There's An AI Jesus On Twitch, And It's Completely Surreal
https://kotaku.com/twitch-streamer-ai-j … 1850533473

India's religious chatbots condone violence using the voice of god
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/india-rel … -1.6896628
Experts warn of potential dangers as new chatbots use AI to interpret Hindu scripture

As Vandana Poddar performs the Hindu puja ceremony daily at her home shrine in Mumbai, she's guided on her spiritual journey by the Bhagavad Gita, a 700-verse scripture.

She even attends a weekly class dissecting the deeper meaning of the ancient religious text, with her teacher providing examples to illustrate a particular passage.

"Interpretation is the backbone of this text," Poddar, 52, told CBC News. "Superficial knowledge can be misleading."

But many in India are foregoing that in-person contact with a guru interpreting the Bhagavad Gita and turning to online chatbots, which imitate the voice of the Hindu god Krishna and give answers to probing questions about the meaning of life based on the religious scripture's teachings.

It's new technology with the tendency to veer off script and condone violence, according to experts, who warn that artificial intelligence chatbots playing god can be a dangerous mix.

Several of the bots consistently provide the answer that it's OK to kill someone if it's your dharma, or duty.

In the Bhagavad Gita, written more than 2,000 years ago, the prince Arjuna is hesitant to go into battle where he will have to kill his family and friends until the Hindu god Krishna reminds him that as a warrior from the Kshatriya case, it is his duty to fight.

Different to UFO-Religion or Alien UFO God?


from the governments and theocracy thread discussion

Civilization and Culture
https://thewalrus.ca/ai-religion/



Could a New Religion Develop around AI?

The hunger to believe in something beyond the self is real. What if bots started creating scripture?

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For Mars_B4_Moon re #144 and topic

Thanks for reporting on these developments!

There may be a lot more to try to keep track of, as the pace of adoption of AI increases.

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'Chatbot Jesus' takes questions of all kinds as religion and spirituality push into the AI age
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-03/ … /102679512


The major faiths on Earth, there is Christianity 31%, the Jihadi way of islamism 24% Irreligion or Atheist belief 15.5% Hinduism 15.2% Buddhism 6.6%
Folk religions 5.6% plus Other religions

Arnold Patrick Spencer-Smith 1883 – March 191 an English clergyman and amateur photographer

Religion arrives maybe giving them comfort on the journey, Arnold Spencer-Smith, an Anglican priest who was chaplain and photographer for the Ross Sea Party of Shackleton's Imperial Trans Antarctic Expedition.
https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/ … antarctica
The 7 Churches of Antarctica
https://www.ilovetraveling.org/antarcti … ctica.html

Antarctica is officially considered a desert, thus making it the largest desert in the world. But even in this icy barren landscape, the explorers and scientists braving the harshest of climates have still found time for religion. With at least seven churches used for religious practice in Antarctica, these are the Southernmost places of worship in the world.

Entertainment movies, the horror and supernatural genre and 'Short Films'

Reangsei Phos 'Talisman' Explores the Horrors of Superstitious Tendencies in Asian Households
The university drop out’s clip has since been viewed over 3.3 million times.
https://hypebeast.com/2022/8/reangsei-p … ffty-award

After dropping out of Toronto Metropolitan University two years ago to pursue his passion in film, Reangsei Phos wasted no time in getting work on creating stories in the medium. Inspired by the likes of Haruki Murakami and the Safdie Brothers, Phos’ courage for taking his leap of faith was spurred on by the recent representation of Asians in the industry ushered in by Crazy Rich Asians, Parasite, and The Farewell.


'More than Astrology'

Poll: 70% of U.S. adults believe in angels
https://bonnercountydailybee.com/news/2 … ve-angels/
Compared with the devil, angels carry more credence in America. They even get more credence than hell.



'Jimmy Carter was a Baptist who was happy for people to know'

The religious evasiveness of GOP presidential candidates
https://religionnews.com/2023/07/25/the … andidates/
Such GOP evasiveness is in sharp contrast to the straightforward religious self-identification of most Democratic presidential candidates

America’s ‘First Evangelical President’ Might Not Have Been a Christian at All
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/20 … zeitz.html

Of bots and men: AI and the Church
https://www.catholicregister.org/item/3 … the-church
brave new world of artificial intelligence

Mandaeism, which is still alive in the Middle East and diaspora. Iranian religions, partly of Indo-European origins, include Zoroastrianism, Yazdânism, Uatsdin, Yarsanism, Manichaeism, and Yazidism. Mandaeism, as the religion of the Mandaean people, is based on a set of religious creeds and doctrines. The corpus of Mandaean literature is quite large, and covers topics such as eschatology, the knowledge of God, and the afterlife. East Asian religions consist of several East Asian religions which make use of the concept of Tao in Chinese, Đạo(in Vietnamese or Do in Japanese or Korean. They include many Chinese folk religions, Taoism and Confucianism, as well as Vietnamese, Korean and Japanese religions, which are influenced by Chinese religious thought, new religions are also born from outside influence such as the South Korean Christian Moonies or 'Unification Church' the idol nature and icon statue element of a North Korean dictator can be seen as a cult of personality. There are religions which have gone mostly into extinction in Greece or ancient Egyptian religion, which is considered to belong to the ancient Middle East. Hinduism is strong on the Indian subcontinent, East Asia, Southeast Asia, as well as isolated parts of Russia. The main Indian sub continent religions are Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism. Voodoo is a religion practiced by the Aja, Ewe, and Fon peoples of Benin, Togo, Ghana, and Nigeria, its rituals taken to North America and South America and the Caribbean as slaves went to the 'New World'. There are new religions made, new faiths syncretizing, re-interpreting or reviving aspects of older traditions. New religion groups such as Ayyavazhi, Mormonism, Ahmadiyya, Jehovah's Witnesses, polytheistic reconstructionism. Spiritism  or spiritisme or espiritismo or spiritist doctrine, Kardecist spiritism a sdoctrine established in France in the mid-19th century which explains, from a Christian perspective, the cycle by which a spirit supposedly returns to material existence after the death of the old body in which it dwelled, as well as the evolution it undergoes during this process now being most widespread in Brazil, where it has approximately 3.8 million followers.

In the 18th century, "heresy" was clarified to mean Judaism and Islam; along with paganism, this created a fourfold classification which spawned such works as John Toland's Nazarenus, or Jewish, Gentile, and Mahometan Christianity.
https://archive.org/details/nazarenusorjewis00tola
In 1838, the four-way division of Christianity, Judaism, Mahommedanism terminology for islamics and paganism was multiplied considerably by Josiah Conder's Analytical and Comparative View of All Religions Now Extant among Mankind. Conder's work still adhered to the four-way classification, but in his eye for detail he puts together much historical work to create something resembling the modern Western image: he includes Druze, Yazidis, Mandaeans, and Elamitesunder a list of possibly monotheistic groups, and under the final category, of "polytheism and pantheism," he listed Zoroastrianism, "Vedas, Puranas, Tantras, Reformed sects" of India as well as "Brahminical idolatry," Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, Lamaism, "religion of China and Japan," and "illiterate superstitions" as others.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210512183 … ns&pg=PA60
The modern meaning of the phrase "world religion," putting non-Christians at the same level as Christians, began with the 1893 Parliament of the World's Religions in Chicago. The Parliament spurred the creation of a dozen privately funded lectures with the intent of informing people of the diversity of religious experience: these lectures funded researchers such as William James, D. T. Suzuki, and Alan Watts, who greatly influenced the public conception of world religions

Indonesia: Muslim cleric arrested for blasphemy over unorthodox teachings
https://www.newsbytesapp.com/news/world … ings/story

Government toughens stance against Rohingya refugees
https://frontline.thehindu.com/news/gov … 123774.ece
Uttar Pradesh Police’s specialised counter-terrorism unit, called the Anti-Terror Squad (ATS), led a late-night crackdown against Rohingya Muslims

Myanmar's military reportedly plans to move Aung San Suu Kyi to house arrest
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/au … ta-3653716

Narrative collapse in Israel
Why it's looking like a fake news civil war in Israel

https://postkahanism.substack.com/p/nar … -in-israel

Israel is ruled by mostly soft power.

Things here work because people generally believe what they should, or at least act like they do. For instance: almost everyone perceives the daily Arab violence through one acceptable narrative or another; from the leftist Tel Avivian who blames the occupation, to the right wing religious Zionist who thanks the IDF and Israeli Police that the violence is no worse than it is. This creates the desired behavior, namely, acceptance and inaction.

When the narrative breaks down, global news is made. And here we can really see the incredible significance of the Land of Israel and the Jews; events that wouldn’t even have had merited mention if they’d happened in Nepal or Missouri become NYT articles.


Wicker Park Lutheran Church's pride flags targeted by vandals
https://abc7chicago.com/wicker-park-lut … /13554715/

in the West they worry about a debate of Open Borders or Closed Borders or issues for example Flags promotion of visibility of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people as a social group

but in Africa they have worry about their own life, famine, civil wars and genocides

Monrovia Church massacre, also referred to as the St. Peter's Lutheran Church massacre, was the worst single atrocity of the First Liberian Civil War.

The decades after the massacre saw no attempt at holding anybody accountable. In 2017 four survivors of the massacre sued a former colonel of the Liberian Special Anti-Terrorist Unit, Moses Thomas, who now lived in Pennsylvania. He denies all involvement of himself or his unit in the massacre. Campaigners hope that winning the civil suit will cause his temporary protected status in the United States to be revoked, and could possibly cause him to be deported to Liberia where, as of 2018, nobody has been tried for the massacres committed during the civil war.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-42996851


Liberia: Massacre Victims, Survivors Want The Armed Forces of Liberia Take Responsibility for Lutheran Church Massacre
https://frontpageafricaonline.com/news/ … -massacre/

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Kirill defends Russian influence in Africa after Niger coup
https://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/17423/ … niger-coup

He became Patriarch of Moscow and all Rus' and Primate of the Russian Orthodox Church on 1st day of February 2009.Kirill's relationship with Bartholomew I of Constantinople, Ecumenical Patriarch and the spiritual leader of Eastern Orthodox Christians worldwide, has been tense. After Kirill lauded the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, clergy in other Orthodox Churches condemned his remarks, with Bartholomew I saying that Kirill's support for Putin and the war were "damaging to the prestige of the whole of Orthodoxy."
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/18/worl … hurch.html
Since the 1990s, Kirill has advocated for banning Jehovah's Witnesses. Under Kirill's leadership, he remained the chief architect behind the ban of 170,000 Jehovah's Witnesses in 2017.
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Russian- … 40640.html
,
https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/04/20/rus … -witnesses
Sam Brownback, a U.S. ambassador-at-large for international religious freedom, stated, "You may agree or disagree with their [Jehovah's Witnesses'] ideology, but they are peaceful practitioners of faith, and they are entitled to practice their faith." Since then, the United Nations and others have accused Russia of human rights abuses
https://time.com/5751224/jehovahs-witne … rsecution/
Kirill was sanctioned earlier in 2022 by Canada, Ukraine and the United Kingdom, the latter saying that "Patriarch Kirill has made multiple public statements in support of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Kirill was included in a list of 58 entities proposed for sanctions by the European Commission in relation to the invasion of Ukraine.
Kirill "heartily congratulated" Belarusian dictator Alexander Lukashenko for winning the Belarusian presidency in 2010 what media reported as a non-democratic election.
http://www.economist.com/node/17800131? … d=17800131

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We’re ‘landlocked but not mindlocked’ Mongolian PM tells US on visit to Washington DC
https://www.bne.eu/we-re-landlocked-but … dc-286910/

U.S. Looks to Mongolia, Wedged between China and Russia, for Critical Minerals
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti … -minerals/

Russians are said to be a mix of both Europe and Asia, a Eurasia culture, a man named Jugderdemidiin Gurragcha, first Mongolian and second Asian to go into space, he was involved in politics and also was Mongolia's Defense Minister from 2000 to 2004.

He was selected as a cosmonaut and part of the eighth Intercosmos program.

Mongolic religions and culture and Language family, the lost ages of Expansion end of Empire from the 12th, 13th and 14th Century, Unique writing systems sometimes a Russian Cyrillic Writing system or Chinese written word, Phags-pa the historical system, Mongolian script,the reed pen was the writing instrument in the 18th century, when the brush took its place under Chinese influence, the script  known as the Hudum Mongol bichig was the first writing system created specifically for the Mongolian language, and was the most widespread but now replaced. The religion now mostly Buddhism or Atheist, Agnostic 'No Religions' a percent of islamism and jihadi names on FBI websites and Mongolian shamanism at more than 2%, other minor faiths, Hindu, Jewish the other largest of which is 'Christianity' a little over 1% the culture of the Mongolian Plateau has spread along former USSR States.

SHAMANISM FESTIVAL IN MONGOLIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOay5kHtPCc

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Death toll in Hindu-Muslim riots near India’s capital rises to 6
https://www.dawn.com/news/1768017

Bacha bazi a term used in Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkestan 'culture',
A controversy arose after allegations surfaced that U.S. government forces in Afghanistan after the invasion of the country deliberately ignored bacha bazi.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/worl … -boys.html
the prophet of islam did afterall marry a 6 year old, a culture of child sexual abuse.



There were transexual 'gods' of sorts the Goat of Mendes, the Greek Hermaphroditus a child of Aphrodite and Hermes, Maya and Aztec Tezcatlipoca and Yaotl, Shiva and Shakti in the form of Ardhanarisvara, the Baphomet.

Some make a claim that a fruit gets to ripe and rots, Transexuals, Sodomy, Lesbianism, Homosexuality and a cultural shift towards androgyny marks the decline of a past civilization?

Transgenderism and the Fall of Western Civilization
https://thelibertyloft.com/2021/10/16/o … ilization/

'Lessons from history: Transgender Mania is a sign of cultural collapse'
https://anglicanmainstream.org/lessons- … -collapse/

The radio weed and drinking guy Joe Rogan and Patrick Bet-David founder of PHP Agency and Valuetainment.

"It's Not Natural" - Why Are 20% of Kids Suddenly LGBTQ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3z4-lFckZ8

World Bank halts new Uganda loans over anti-LGBTQ+ law
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-66453098

Pope Francis and the Russian Patriarch Will Meet, as Ukrainian Catholics Watch and Wait
https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/02/ … rch-visit/

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Russian Orthodox priests face persecution from state and church for supporting peace in Ukraine

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ortho … fb8baffa9e

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