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Still Alive! NASA’s InSight Lander Waits Out Martian Dust Storm
https://scitechdaily.com/still-alive-na … ust-storm/
Engineers created a safe micro-nuclear reactor that fits in the back of a truck
https://interestingengineering.com/inno … ctor-truck
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Dust storms might still be killing robots
yet maybe Instead of a gloomy Chopin Funeral March from Piano Sonata maybe one day the Robot Lives will be Celebrated with "Another One Bites the Dust" made by the British rock band Queen
Killed by dust storm?
Mars orbiter reveals China’s Zhurong rover has not moved for months
https://twitter.com/TheMarsSociety/stat … 4622760960
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Dust on Mars? The Answer, My Friend, is Blowin’ in the Wind
https://eos.org/editor-highlights/dust- … n-the-wind
The first flights of a helicopter on another planet are used to study dust lifting and mobilization in Jezero Crater, Mars.
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that Nitrogen problem
One could set up shipping or guns, get resources from other plaents and Moon and bodies delivered to Mars or Nitrogen from Titan,
'Liquid nitrogen spray could clean up stubborn moon dust'
https://phys-org.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s … n-moon.amp
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Astronauts Could Clear Lunar Dust Away with Nitrogen Spray
https://www.universetoday.com/160473/as … gen-spray/
When the liquid nitrogen beads up on the space suit material, though, they encapsulate the lunar dust particles and force them off the material’s surface, overcoming their electrostatic clinginess by simply engulfing them entirely in liquid. After proving their original point, the researchers had to prove it would work on the Moon.
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and dealing with Duststorms on Mars?
NASA Seeks Student Solutions for Managing Moon Landing Dust Cloud
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa … dust-cloud
ILM is an American motion picture visual effects company that was founded by George Lucas, a division of the film production company Lucasfilm
For ‘Good Night Oppy,’ ILM used thousands of rover images to create Mars 'from the ground up'
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/good-ni … 57822.html
“I thought if we're going to make this film, let's take the audience to Mars in a way they've never been taken before,” White said during the press conference. “We wanted the audience to start at the beginning, and be there day after day on this journey with the robots, and the way to achieve that was to work with Industrial Light & Magic to create, for the first time, this type of photo-real Mars.”
White went to ILM with the rovers’ hundreds of thousands of photos of Mars from their collective 22 and a half years on the red planet, and even more data from other sources. “We also had orbital imagery above Mars, where two satellites take down the terrain but also of the rover journeys. And then we had all of the data from NASA — obviously, they're incredible researchers and collectors of this data — that was minute details like the temperature each day, the level of dust in the air each day, and where the sun rose where the sun set.”
The ILM sequences showing Oppy and Spirit took two years to put together, and were something that White only got to see close to the end of the project. “We were cutting our film with black-and-white pencil sketches, and just really trusting that ILM will bring it alive in the end,” he said.
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Clean entrance to a habitable space will require a means to remove dust that as you noted can cling to the suit and since we have co2 we would make us of that rather than nitrogen.
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What you really need is a space suit that you can routinely launder, plus a source of laundry water, plus a scheme to deal with the laundry waste water. I have seen nothing in the least credible that deals with those 3 issues, excepting (maybe!!!) the mechanical-compression (MCP) suit notion that is still undeveloped. Done Dr. Webb's way and treated as vacuum-protective underwear, it might be launderable. Done Dava Newman's "skinsuit" way, probably not. -- GW
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"There is nothing as expensive as a dead crew, especially one dead from a bad management decision"
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This is another view of the report first shown by Mars_B4_Moon....
http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 31#p207431
This version is dated April 9, so it may contain something new, or at least a different perspective.
For SpaceNut ... your suggestion of using CO2 on Mars is interesting. I'd like to suggest research to be sure the physical behavior of CO2 is similar to that observed with Nitrogen. It may be. On the other hand, it may not. I doubt anyone knows without doing the lab work.
Not only is lunar dust annoyingly clingy — the researchers likened it to cleaning up a spilled box of static-charged packaging peanuts — but coming into contact with it can prove toxic to human cells and can lead to "lunar hay fever," an illness that causes watery eyes, a sore throat and sneezing. That's not exactly something astronauts would want to contend with while conducting an already-risky mission to the moon.
"Moon dust … is abrasive, electrostatically charged and it gets everywhere," lead author Ian Wells, a mechanical engineering student at WSU, told Live Science. "It can work its way into the seals on spacesuits and make them unusable, since too much dust causes them to not seal properly. It can also have a negative impact on the lungs of anyone who encounters it, since it's similar to breathing in ground-up fiberglass."
The liquid-nitrogen experiment worked thanks to a phenomenon known as the Leidenfrost effect, which occurs when water hits a surface that's hotter than its boiling point, causing the droplet to "skitter across the surface."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/scientists-b … 24610.html
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Pass the gases through an ionizer nozzle sets a charge to it neutralizing any static cling. Its currently used in many a cleaning of dirt covered surfaces.
https://coolclean.com/co2-cleaning/
keyboard dusters come to mind
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