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#651 2023-01-04 20:28:30

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Re: International Space Station (ISS / Alpha)

So, as I wanted to understand why the rush when if the station did get hit that they know how to seal off bad sections and could do space walks to make sealing repairs once the damage can be viewed. Sure, it's better to enter and escape pod but even that is temporary as you can return to the station if you do not need to leave it due to it being severely damaged.

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#652 2023-01-05 10:11:05

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Well,  it depends.  Some of the modules cannot be closed off with hatches,  as lines of one kind or another were strung through the open hatches.  This was particularly true of the Russian stations Salyut and Mir.  It may still be true of the Russian modules at ISS,  I don't know. 

What I do know is that not being able to close a hatch to a depressurizing module is a severe amplification of disaster risks,  especially when it takes minutes or less to depressurize the whole station,  and hours to get suited up. The Navy would never allow that on a submarine or a ship.  At least not the Navy I was in decades ago.

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#653 2023-01-06 19:23:12

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The navy even in dry dock have gotten smarter in that they are using fast disconnects on all connections going through hatchways and have the equipment's stored there to make the removal as fast as possible. Such as fiber cables having cutters at the sight just in case its needed to be done.

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#654 2023-01-10 18:58:31

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#655 2023-02-11 16:27:09

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'Beautiful Lake Michigan!'
https://twitter.com/Astro_Wakata/status … 3270089728


Russian spacecraft loses pressure, station crew safe

https://apnews.com/article/space-explor … 83417a38fb

Roscosmos said the hatch between the station and the Progress MS-21 had been locked so the loss of pressure didn’t affect the orbiting outpost.

“The temperature and pressure on board the station are within norms and there is no danger to health and safety of the crew,” it said in a statement.

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#656 2023-02-11 19:57:17

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#657 2023-02-13 19:50:13

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#658 2023-02-18 08:48:03

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https://www.universetoday.com/160126/an … g-coolant/

'The cause of these leaks remains unknown, but Roscosmos engineers (with support from their NASA counterparts) will continue investigating.'

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#659 2023-02-18 11:24:10

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They had a meteor-or-space debris hole to pint at with the first leak.  I haven't seen a thing like that with this second one. 

A few years ago,  they had one with a cabin pressure leak.  Turned out to be a hole drilled in the pressure hull.  Opinions differed as to whether that was a manufacturing error that went undetected,  or some sort of sabotage. 

Two coolant leaks n a short period of time is both disquieting and suspicious.

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#660 2023-02-18 16:53:07

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#661 2023-02-19 17:56:03

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How to watch the SpaceX Crew-6 mission launch this week to the International Space Station (ISS) for a stay of about seven months.

The launch itself is scheduled for very early in the morning of Sunday, February 26, but coverage will begin at 10:30 p.m. ET (7:30 p.m. ET) on Saturday, February 27. Liftoff is scheduled for 2:07 a.m. ET on Sunday (11:07 p.m. PT on Saturday).

If you’d like to watch the arrival of the spacecraft at the ISS, that will also be livestreamed. Coverage of the Dragon’s arrival at the ISS will begin at 1 a.m. ET on Monday, February 27 (10 a.m. PT on Sunday, February 26) with docking scheduled for 2:54 a.m. ET (just before midnight PT), followed by the hatch opening and welcome ceremony for the crew.

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#662 2023-02-21 05:09:25

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The political fallout from Russian imperialism doesn't seem to influence the ISS

but it also matters little if you are a Sharia Law nation

a 6 month stay for guys who never built the station?

and Legally what if you are almost Raped in Space? will the UAE accuse the victims??

Neither does the fact UAE is an islamist almost religiously pure ethno-state that bans race mixing or miscegenation because in all emirates, it is illegal for Muslim women to marry non-Muslims.
https://web.archive.org/web/20091031224 … 127360.htm

If Mars is one day populated by jihad Mosques maybe we can thank both Russia and the USA for exporting this religious madness to space. Or is this punishment for the Fall of Kabul? Capitulation, from the Latin capitulum, the act of capitulare, to treat upon Rome terms in past times was an agreement for the surrender to a town, a particular realm or a territory, parties must be in accordance with the rules of military honor. When once settled, they must be observed by both the parties, in finance markets, "capitulation" describes "giving up" on the market or "surrendering". 

Brazil contributes got got to stay 8 days or less?

Russia reschedules Soyuz launch after Progress undocks
https://spacenews.com/russia-reschedule … s-undocks/
Russia is moving ahead with the uncrewed launch of a Soyuz spacecraft to the International Space Station after the post-undocking inspection of a Progress cargo spacecraft failed to show damage from a coolant leak.
Roscosmos announced Feb. 18 that the council of designers at RSC Energia has recommended the Soyuz-2.1a launch of the Soyuz MS-23 spacecraft take place at 7:32 p.m. Eastern Feb. 23. That would set up the spacecraft to dock with the station two days later, shortly before the arrival of the SpaceX Crew-6 mission currently scheduled to launch early Feb. 26.
Soyuz MS-23 is launching without a crew because of a coolant leak in the Soyuz MS-22 spacecraft in December that led Roscosmos to conclude the spacecraft could not safely return its three-person crew. Soyuz MS-23 will replace Soyuz MS-22, and that damaged spacecraft will return to Earth without a crew.

SoyuzMS23 was rolled inside its payload fairing today on Baikonur.
https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/ … 8909510656

Crew-6 Dragon arrives at LC-39A ahead of flight
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1627356339788996608

There was debate before on terms

Astronauts, Cosmonuats, Space Tourists or Space Flight Participant?

United Arab Emirates the eastern end of the Arabian Peninsula, the UAE's judicial system is derived from the civil law system and islamist Sharia law it is an islamic monarchy, Stoning is a legal punishment in the UAE and an Asian housemaid was sentenced to death by stoning in Abu Dhabi, Crucifixion is a legal punishment in the UAE. A British woman, after she reported being gang raped by three men, was charged with the crime of "alcohol consumption". Another British woman was charged with "public intoxication and extramarital sex" after she reported being raped, while an Australian woman was similarly sentenced to jail after she reported gang rape in the UAE. In another recent case, an 18-year Emirati girl withdrew her complaint of gang rape by six men when the prosecution threatened her with a long jail term and flogging. The woman still had to serve one year in jail. In July 2013, a Norwegian woman, Marte Dalelv, reported rape to the police and received a prison sentence for "illicit sex and alcohol consumption"

https://archive.fo/CStLX

Hazza Al Mansouri aka "Al Mansoori"  an Emirati astronaut / cosmonaut and the first person from the United Arab Emirates in space. He launched aboard the Soyuz MS-15 spacecraft to the International Space Station, where he stayed for eight days. He landed safely in Kazakhstan, on 3 October 2019 aboard Soyuz MS-12 completing the United Arab Emirates first astronaut mission.

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#663 2023-02-21 11:46:47

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Russia is launching a mission to give stranded space station crew members a ride home

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/21/11584099 … nasa-soyuz

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#664 2023-02-22 07:59:12

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Russia claims Progress leak caused by an "external impact"

https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Russ … __999.html

Roscosmos on Tuesday blamed an "external impact," not a manufacturing defect, for a coolant leak from an unmanned Russian supply ship docked at the International Space Station on February 11.

High-resolution pictures of the Progress MS-21 spacecraft were taken by cosmonauts using the ISS' 17-meter-long Canadarm2 robotic arm, which revealed a 12-millimeter hole where the coolant fluid poured out of the cooling system on February 11th.

On February 11, a Russian unmanned Progress MS-22/83P cargo ship successfully docked to the Zvezda service module at the International Space Station (ISS); however, for the second time in just two months, another Progress has sprung a leak.

Shortly after docking, Russia's space agency Roscosmos in Moscow announced via Telegram that mission control detected a "depressurization" in the Progress MS-21/82 P's coolant loop.

Roscosmos and NASA both stated that the incident poses no threat to the station's crew.

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#665 2023-02-22 10:42:56

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That's two Soyuz craft with cooling systems supposedly hit by either meteors or space debris,  with the Russians specifically denying a manufacturing defect,  without anybody making such an accusation.  I wonder why the rest of the ISS hasn't been similarly punctured?  Or any other locations on the Soyuz’s?

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#666 2023-02-24 16:40:50

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The uncrewed Soyuz MS-23 spacecraft lifted off at 7:24pm ET on a two-day journey to the space station to replace the MS-22 that experienced a coolant system leak in December 2022.

https://twitter.com/Space_Station/statu … 7071805440

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#667 2023-02-24 19:59:34

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Wonder how long they will park it before making use of it to bring crew back down since the longer it is attached the higher the risk that another will be needed.

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#668 2023-03-02 03:56:01

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'Dec 2022'
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/sta … 5307541506

As part of the docking procedures for the Soyuz MS-23 spacecraft, the Space_station did a 90 degrees pitch-up maneuver - followed by the docking - then a pitch-back-down. This video (2.5x timelapse) shows the pitch-down maneuver from the usually pointed-straight-down-at-the-earth camera. 
https://twitter.com/ISSAboveYou/status/ … 8074297344

The Soyuz MS-23 spacecraft has docked to the Poisk module of the International Space Station, delivering a replacement for a damaged Russian crew ferry spacecraft after a two-day flight from the launch pad at the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan.
https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/stat … 0846406656

Soyuz MS-23/69S: Hooks are closed; the Soyuz MS-23 spacecraft has been firmly pulled into place for a "hard mate" atop the Poisk module; after leak checks to confirm an airtight structural seal, hatches will be opened
https://twitter.com/cbs_spacenews/statu … 5623974912

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#669 2023-03-10 05:32:48

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NASA and Roscosmos planning to add mission to seat barter agreement

https://spacenews.com/nasa-and-roscosmo … agreement/

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#670 2023-03-11 10:46:05

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SpaceX Crew-5 set to return to Earth, splash down off Florida’s coast Saturday

https://news.yahoo.com/spacex-crew-5-se … 09093.html

Crew Dragon Space-X Undocking, departure and Blue Danube Waltz by Strauss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLuhUkpq2wU

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#671 2023-03-11 13:04:27

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Thanks for the update as soon crew 6 will be there for a period of time.

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#672 2023-03-12 08:13:38

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Crew-5 mission ends with Florida splashdown

https://spacenews.com/crew-5-mission-en … plashdown/

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#673 2023-03-14 05:02:36

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Welcome home, Crew5! The international crew splashed down at 9:02pm ET off the coast of Tampa, Florida

https://twitter.com/Space_Station/statu … 7685886980

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#674 2023-03-15 17:29:19

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As noted deorbiting the station is a huge waste as it could be starter blocks for other uses. Of which Axiom was to add modules to in order to extend its life.

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#675 2023-03-16 14:59:26

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