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Drone, Chopper, a Crop Duster or UFO / UAP ?

https://youtu.be/CQuwfOxhayA

UFOs sightings will be better documented after House vote on reporting system

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/ufos- … 16347.html

The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF) was a program within the United States Office of Naval Intelligence used to "standardize collection and reporting" of sightings of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP), sometimes termed UFOs. The program was detailed in a June 2020 hearing of the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 … ying-craft

The program was officially approved on August 4, 2020, by the Deputy Secretary of Defense David Norquist, and announced on August 14, 2020. "The mission of the task force is to detect, analyze and catalog UAPs that could potentially pose a threat to U.S. national security." On June 25, 2021, the preliminary assessment was delivered.

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With New Study, NASA Seeks the Science behind UFOs

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti … hind-ufos/

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Sandy Hook families ask judge to order Alex Jones to relinquish control of his company

https://whdh.com/news/sandy-hook-famili … nd-family/

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'Cosmic' and 'phantom' UFOs are all over Ukraine's skies, government report claims

https://www.livescience.com/ukraine-ufo-uap-report

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There is something out there

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Classified UFO videos would 'harm national security' if released, Navy says
https://www.space.com/navy-ufo-videos-n … ity-threat

The Search For Extraterrestrial Life, UFOS, And Our Future
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckbrook … ur-future/

Back in 1994, astronomer and author Carl Sagan of Cornell University authored an article

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An Eastern WA man records 180,000 UFO sightings, even if others debunk them
https://www.seattletimes.com/pacific-nw … bunk-them/

UFO sightings increasing in Ukraine? Top physicist answers
https://www.ibtimes.co.in/ufo-sightings … ers-853082

Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF) was a program within the United States Office of Naval Intelligence used to "standardize collection and reporting" of sightings of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP), sometimes termed UFOs. The program was detailed in a June 2020 hearing of the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. On April 12, 2021, the Pentagon confirmed the authenticity of pictures and videos gathered by the Task Force, purportedly showing "what appears to be pyramid-shaped objects" hovering above USS Russell in 2019, off the coast of California, with spokeswoman Susan Gough saying "I can confirm that the referenced photos and videos were taken by Navy personnel. The successor to the UAPTF was established on 23 November 2021, as the Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group (AOIMSG).

PDF

https://media.defense.gov/2021/Nov/23/2 … -GROUP.PDF

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Black Knight satellite conspiracy theory says that a satellite which came from an alien planet or that a spacecraft of extraterrestrial origin is in near-polar orbit of the Earth, and that NASA is covering it all up?

Space journalist James Oberg looked at the photos and said its probably not an alien UFO but just a piece of debris.

Other conspiracy?

UFO stealing aircraft??

Frederick Valentich was an Australian pilot who disappeared while on a 125-nautical-mile (232 km) training flight in a Cessna 182L light aircraft, registered VH-DSJ, over Bass Strait on the evening of Saturday 21 October 1978. Described as a "flying saucer enthusiast", twenty-year-old Valentich informed Melbourne air traffic control that he was being accompanied by an aircraft about 1,000 feet (300 m) above him and that his engine had begun running roughly, before finally reporting: "It's not an aircraft." It has been proposed that Valentich staged his own disappearance: even taking into account a trip of between 30 and 45 minutes to Cape Otway, the single-engine Cessna 182 still had enough fuel to fly 800 km (500 mi); despite ideal conditions, at no time was the aircraft plotted on radar, casting doubts as to whether it was ever near Cape Otway; and Melbourne police received reports of a light aircraft making a mysterious landing not far from Cape Otway at the same time as Valentich's disappearance. nother proposed explanation is that Valentich became disoriented and was flying upside down. If this were the case, the lights he thought he saw would be his own aircraft's lights, reflected in the water; he would then have crashed into the water. Ufologists have speculated that extraterrestrials either destroyed Valentich's aircraft or abducted him.

"'Truth' was out there after all"
https://archive.ph/zEX5S

"The only thing we can say for  sure is that the plane and  pilot disappeared while he  was describing a UFO - which is one of those things that just makes people wonder," Mr Basterfield says.

Some People Believe That the Black Knight Satellite Is an Alien Spacecraft

https://www.yahoo.com/news/truth-black- … 00435.html

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NASA unidentified aerial phenomena

https://www.inverse.com/science/nasa-uf … am-members

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US submarine buzzed by underwater craft travelling faster than the speed of sound (~1500m/s).
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/us-nu … -scientist

Captain Nemo perhaps?

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High probability that I live in a world where entities that are more powerful than me, and likely more intelligent as well.  I don't know if it matters to my life, if they are some sort of human or alien.  It likely amounts to the same outcome.

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US government logs more than 500 UFO reports with hundreds unexplained
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ … government

'Hundreds' so at least 200 unknown?

High probability that I live in a world where entities that are more powerful than me, and likely more intelligent as well.

is a Drone silicon robo thing 'intelligent'...what if Voyager doesnt go out there but after a while a machine on a voyage comes to Earth.

I am not talking for myself and maybe I speak for a friend or type in a poetic way,
one day you see something, feel and hear an event that is not easily explained.

Maybe the view is just me, I believe the world is explained through rationality and logic but would some others, some other people in this world think of me different if I said one day some time ago I had seen something 'strange' and unexplained.

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Former Congressman Wonders if Object Shot Down Over Alaska Is Alien UFO

https://www.newsweek.com/former-congres … fo-1780528

U.S. Has Seen an Increase in UFO Sightings, New Government Report Says

https://gizmodo.com/ufo-unidentified-ae … 1849984430

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Senator Warns People to 'Lock Your Doors' After Classified Hearing on UFOs

https://www.newsweek.com/louisiana-sena … ts-1781314

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a comedy-ish 'Storming Area 51 Video'

That Zone Between Area 50 and 52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ7F6ELO-hQ

GOP senators exit intel briefing saying 'unity in confusion' on UFO origins, WH must inform public

https://justthenews.com/government/cong … efing-ufos

The legend of Area 51—and why it still fascinates us

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/cult … al-history

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Some headlines and news, some reports seem Tabloid Gossip like

UFO activity group says about 95% of reported activity in skies are explainable
https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/arti … plainable/

UFOs somehow deactivating nuclear warheads?

The Daily Mail claims that former U.S. Air Force personnel have testified that UFOs interfered with nukes in the 1960s. The officers reportedly recently told the government’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) that they had bizarre encounters with the objects near U.S. military bases.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/milita … -warheads/

What does UAP mean and how is it different from a UFO?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/15272569/ … -mean-ufo/

THE term UFO is officially 'old school' and has been given a more formal sounding rebrand. UAP is the new term, which is supposed to shake off some of the stigma surrounding the word UFO.

China also downing "UFOs" over the Yellow Sea.

https://news.yahoo.com/china-spots-unid … 00791.html

Mystery Over Missing Sidewinder Missile That Failed to Shoot Down UFO

https://www.newsweek.com/mystery-missin … on-1781016

UFOs have operated over US airspace for years... and aliens are NOT ruled out

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … years.html

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News gossip?

Drone or not a Drone

Skinny cylindrical-shaped UFO flying near Baghdad is seen in six thermal images
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … mages.html

UFO tech's being 'secretly reverse-engineering', says Tennessee Congressman
https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/us-n … b45fe.html
According to Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchett, recovered UFO technology may be "being reverse-engineered right now"

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Russia closes airspace over St Petersburg after UFO spotted with fighter jets scrambled

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-new … r-29330672

Pulkovo airport in St. Petersburg Russia temporarily shut down due to UFO

https://www.cnbctv18.com/world/russia-p … 093091.htm

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PHYSICAL CONSTRAINTS ON UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL PHENOMENA

https://web.archive.org/web/20230304160 … eb/LK1.pdf

THE EXTRATERRESTRIAL POSSIBILITY

The academic interest in UAP stems from their potential non-human technological origin. Extraterrestrial equipment could arrive in two forms: space trash, similar to the way our own interstellar probes (Voyager 1 & 2, Pioneer 10 & 11 and New Horizons) will appear in a billion years, or functional equipment such as autonomous devices equipped with Artificial Intelligence (AI). Electronic probes employing conventional chemical propulsion and refueling that we currently understand, would be a likely choice for travel within a planetary system. Some combination of conventional propulsion, ion propulsion, or lightsail propulsion would provide good choices for crossing the tens of thousands of Constraints on UAP 3 light years that span the scale of the Milky Way galaxy. Such autonomous systems could be designed to survive even if the senders are not able to communicate with them, and deposit probes upon arrival to the target planetary systems.

The considerations in this paper imply a useful limit on observations of UAP which bound the hypothetical explanations and can support limitations on interpretations of data. For example, one of the most common sets of data within the military holdings comes from FLIR (forward looking infrared) pods. These sensors provide an accurate resolved image of relative thermal measurements across the scene. Typical UAP sightings are too far away to get a highly resolved image of the object and determination of the object’s motion is limited by the lack of range data. The range is usually estimated using the flight dynamics of the platform and some fixed points in the scene - if either are available. The error in estimating the range gives rise to a significant variation in the calculated velocity and is subject to human bias and error.
Claims of objects exceeding the transonic to supersonic range should be evaluated against the above known physics of ionization, radar reflectivity, temperature, sonic booms, and fireballs (Loeb 2022b). All of which can more effectively and accurately bound the velocity, and hence drive the range calculation. This will, in turn, when matched with the specifics of the sensor, allow for better estimates of the size, shape, and mass of the object in question.

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NASA Provides Coverage of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Meeting

https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/NASA … g_999.html

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NASA UFO Team Calls For Higher Quality Data In First Public Meeting

https://www.science.org/content/article … ic-meeting

The 16-person panel, created last year at the behest of NASA Administrator Bill Nelson, is not itself evaluating UFO claims. Instead, it is advising NASA on how the agency can contribute to federal investigations that have been led by the Department of Defense (DOD) and intelligence agencies, says panel chair David Spergel, an astrophysicist and president of the Simons Foundation, who spoke to Science ahead of the meeting. "NASA is a public agency, an open agency, that encourages the use of the scientific method for looking at results." But science can only be done when there are data to work on, he adds. "You're not going to learn much from fuzzy pictures from the 1950s." So far, most "unidentified" phenomena flagged by the military have ended up being weather balloons, drones, camera glitches, or undisclosed military aircraft, Spergel says. "It's very unlikely there are space aliens that travel through space and use technology that looks remarkably like what we have right now."

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Witnesses Play Up the Alien Angle at Congressional UFO Hearing

https://www.universetoday.com/162544/wi … s-uap-ufo/

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UFO hearing live updates: Lawmakers, witnesses accuse Pentagon of ‘cover up’
https://www.aol.co.uk/motoring/ufo-hear … 00389.html

July 2023 UAP Hearing, Explained
https://www.truthorfiction.com/july-202 … explained/

a House subcommittee hearing on unidentified objects or phenomena in the sky instantly lit up social media

Eric Ross Weinstein an American hedge fund director and podcast guy, he is not always an expert but he's very often out there giving an opinion on science or alien topics

https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/stat … 5468305408

scifi actors giving opinions

UFO hearings 'ridiculous' says Star Trek legend William Shatner

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … -UFOs.html

William Shatner has called the recent congressional hearings on UFOs 'ridiculous,' arguing that if aliens really had reached earth, they would have made a bigger deal about it.

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Huge reviews

Interstellar: The Search for Extraterrestrial Life and Our Future in the Stars

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/639 … terstellar

a well known but controversial name Abraham "Avi" Loeb in astrophysics and cosmology.  Loeb is well educated and in collaboration with Dan Maoz, Loeb demonstrated  biomarkers, such as molecular oxygen can be detected by JWST in the habitable zone of white dwarfs.

Expected on August 29

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Astrophysicist Avi Loeb: ‘UFOs should be the subject of mainstream inquiry. Science must bring clarity’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ … -interview

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Alleged Alien Corpses Displayed to Mexican Congress Did Not Convince Scientists

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne … 180982900/