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True indeed. The big question is whether capital punishment is primarily revenge or primarily justice.
Justice is the ideal to which we must aspire, not something we are "ever" qualified to measure or dispense.
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If the current system fails to protect society (releasing dangerous criminals) then the system is flawed and the death penalty becomes necessary due to our own prior failures and weakness.
Tell me the death penalty is something we need BECAUSE all of us are flawed creatures (all of us, police and judges and legislators included)and I will say, "Well, okay in limited circumstances, the fewer the better, execution may be the lesser evil of the options presented, but its still evil."
Tell me that execution brings a society closer to justice and I will fight relentlessly.
While it is true that justice is something to which we must all aspire, rarely, if ever, fully achieving it, I hold that it is not true that we are never qualified to dispense it. The alternative would be to never punish any crime.
With respect to use of the death penalty to increase justice, I guess we will have to "agree to disagree". I would argue that even if we had the techniques to completely rehabilitate a first degree murderer and absolutely assure that she would never do such a thing again, we should still execute them. Once again, the basic concept of justice is reciprocity (restitution) plus a penalty symbolizing the amortization of the cost to society of dealing with the situation.
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That would be something, quite a symbol. Executing people on Mars.
We sit here and day dream about bringing life to Mars, making Mars live- the day when people walk and talk and breath and live on another planet.
Quite a symbol to suggest that it's fine to destroy what we dream about. But that's just me, and I tend to look at things in a rather strange fashion.
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It's been awhile, so, Hi folks. Now, as to religion on Mars, I think that executing or deporting people on the basis of non-compliance would be at best, unrealistic. Religion will spread to Mars, because people need religion. Communist societies have tried to wipe out or repress religion.
As you can see in the former Soviet republics and currently in Communist China, government pressure can't sanitize a society of religion. As for the influence of religion in politics, I hold no doubts that political leaders will act within their moral/philosophical views. Can't get away from that. Might as well ask a person to ignore their body parts.
As for the Mars colonies, I just hope that maybe society would try to keep the religious debates from exploding into a bloody mess. Now onto the capital punishment row. I feel that execution should remain on the books. Though, execution should be limited to the " mad dogs " of society.
I've read articles about people that kill for fun, kill quite readily in order to achieve one's goals. Such people have a shockingly cavalier attitude towards human life. As such, these people can't be trusted to act within societal bounds. We put down mad dogs, don't we?
Most crimes are committed out of desperation, passion or plain bad choices in life. For those offenders, give them jail time. Though, let's drop the corrections out of criminal justice, a criminal sentence is supposed to punish, not try to force a person to change. A person reforms because of personal reflection and insight.
Cordially,
EarthWolf
" Man will not always stay on the Earth. "
Konstantin Tsiolkovsky
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That would be something, quite a symbol. Executing people on Mars.
We sit here and day dream about bringing life to Mars, making Mars live- the day when people walk and talk and breath and live on another planet.
Quite a symbol to suggest that it's fine to destroy what we dream about. But that's just me, and I tend to look at things in a rather strange fashion.
Well, quite a few people dream of people living and breathing on Mars and still believe in capital punishment for the few, I repeat my previous post, for the few that deserve it.
If your dream of a Mars includes a dream of no deaths administered by law, then I would hope that it would include a dream of no deaths by outlaws. Would a society that tolerates death at the hands of outlaws, but not at the hands of justice be worth having?
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EarthWolf
It's been awhile, so, Hi folks. Now, as to religion on Mars, I think that executing or deporting people on the basis of non-compliance would be at best, unrealistic. Religion will spread to Mars, because people need religion. Communist societies have tried to wipe out or repress religion.
As you can see in the former Soviet republics and currently in Communist China, government pressure can't sanitize a society of religion. As for the influence of religion in politics, I hold no doubts that political leaders will act within their moral/philosophical views. Can't get away from that. Might as well ask a person to ignore their body parts.
As for the Mars colonies, I just hope that maybe society would try to keep the religious debates from exploding into a bloody mess. Now onto the capital punishment row. I feel that execution should remain on the books. Though, execution should be limited to the " mad dogs " of society.
Well, if you based your statement about "executing people for non-compliance on my post, you completely misunderstood it. At no time did I say or imply that there would be penalties for practicing a religion. In fact, my idea would extend the Declaration of Independence notion of religious freedom to include ALL religions who meet one important criterion. They will not attempt to impose their beliefs on practitioners of another religion by either physical or political force. In my Mars there would be a very strong and diverse religious life. But certain beliefs that have been part of some historical religions would be barred for the reason you suggest, religious debates might explode into a bloody mess, as they so often have in the past. My suggestion is a potential answer to your problem, while allowing, indeed encouraging, a full range of religious life.
With respect to reserving the death penalty to the "mad dogs" of society, I point out that many of these "mad dogs" in the past have been religious zealots. Sometimes whole religious orders of them, e.g. the Dominican Order of the Roman Catholic Church, which provided the torturers for the Inquisition(s) and mandated criteria for guilt which essentially prevented any possibility of the accused being proven innocent. They were all guilty, their only choice was to receive mercy by confessing or full punishment by continuing to assert their innocence.
A milder version of this continues in our own legal system where an innocent man may face the choice of reducing his term by a plea bargain (which he receives only by admitting his guilt) or receive full punishment if convicted. [Added via edit]. It is a curious perversity of our legal system that the plea bargain is a windfall for the guilty but a nightmare for the innocent.
I've read articles about people that kill for fun, kill quite readily in order to achieve one's goals. Such people have a shockingly cavalier attitude towards human life. As such, these people can't be trusted to act within societal bounds. We put down mad dogs, don't we?
Why is it so many liberals act as if such people don't really exist?
Most crimes are committed out of desperation, passion or plain bad choices in life. For those offenders, give them jail time. Though, let's drop the corrections out of criminal justice, a criminal sentence is supposed to punish, not try to force a person to change. A person reforms because of personal reflection and insight.
Well, in some cases I think that there might be other alternatives than jail time. E.g. for crimes like hot checks or larceny restitution plus a penalty might be very feasible. Especially if the crime were done out of true desperation (but let's be careful here. Many stories sound like desperation, but on close examination, realistic alternatives were readily available). Where you need confinement is when other people must be protected from habitual behavioral problems. For example, I have heard that over 90% of burglaries are done by a very tiny percentage of criminals (well under 10%). Those people do need to be isolated from the rest of us.
As for rehabilitation, whether confined or not, most will need to work. I think provision of basic (and sometimes advanced) job skills are very much to be desired, if only because prisoners working with the prisons getting a cut of the profits will reduce the cost to the taxpayer.
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With regards to religion, it will be there in the autonomous seperate Zusayan Empire in the form of the polythiestic Hathradon faith which is the official religion of the Zusayan.
You might want to visit the Temples sometime?
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Yahoo news asks
'Did the Webb Space Telescope show us the face of God?'
https://news.yahoo.com/did-webb-space-t … 51302.html
It is possible no matter how cold logical and atheist and non superstition a person might want a space place to be the temples of mankind will follow.
Russian were Communist but now they are not, so Russia's Orthodox Christmas was celebrated on the International Space Station, on January 7, 2011. Cosmonauts had the day off, but one of the other crew posted on Twitter, "Merry Christmas to all Russia."
https://www.space.com/9719-christmas-ru … space.html
New Smithsonian Exhibit Explores the Complexity of Science and Religion
https://religionandpolitics.org/2022/04 … -religion/
Hindus will not be offended by animal tests in space flight.
The mohammedan islamic culture wants to spread into space
The Vatican would have something to say? Back in year 1969 Pope Paul VI sent blessings to first men on the moon
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Hadi Matar, Rushdie Stabbing Suspect: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
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The name Hadi is muslim name of Arabic origin that means Leader, Guide, it also is common in Iran, Matar is used in Lebanon and Iran also a name used in Spanish, Hebrew and Arabic.
https://heavy.com/news/hadi-matar/
The Suspect, Who Is Accused of Having Sympathies to the Iranian Government, Stabbed or Punched Rushdie 10-15, a Witness Says
A Man in a Black Shirt Jumped on Stage, Witnesses Say.
Another witness told the cable news network that there were no metal detectives or security searches at the event.
According to the New York Post, Matar is accused of being “sympathetic to the Iranian regime and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard.”
Authorities have not confirmed that information. Online records show an old address in Cudahy, California, for Matar, as well as one in New Jersey.New York’s Governor Said Rushdie Has ‘Spent Decades Speaking Truth to Power’
According to The Guardian, Rushdie was in surgery after the attack.
Videos Showed People Helping Rushdie & Him Being Rushed to a Helicopter
Rushdie Was Stabbed in the Neck, State Police Say
In a news release, New York State Police revealed they “are investigating an attack on author Salman Rushdie prior to a speaking event at the Chautauqua Institution in Chautauqua, NY.”
NASA had to cover up preaching passages, , the Communion service is one of seven rituals called sacraments that have a primary significance, hid this because of one bitter atheist Baptist, quote, God?
the intense crazy theology preacher angle? the vid also has religion adverts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_LVvOQ_I6Y
On the other side of less tolerant, Westboro Baptist Church a little American, Baptist church it is known for engaging in homophobic and anti-American pickets. They have even showed up to funerals of dead soldiers to preach nonsense that America is apparently "doomed", and when bad things happen in America, the WBC say that is because Americans don’t smite the people that Westboro hate, they turned up to events to shout their hatred at 'sinners' as well as hate speech against atheists, Jews, Muslims, transgender people, and numerous Christian denominations. Once upon a time, Phelps was a Democrat and a civil rights lawyer who eventually was disbarred for committing perjury on a case he filed on his own behalf.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case? … 3889772229
Phelps-Roper is married to Brent D. Roper and they have 11 children. Five of her children, notably Megan Phelps-Roper, have left the church, Shirley Lynn Phelps-Roper an American lawyer and political activist. She was the lead spokesperson of the Westboro Baptist Church. She and other family members have become known for picketing at funerals of AIDS victims with signs such as "God hates fags" and at funeral processions for American soldiers killed in combat.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6507971.stm
Opinion: Is There a Place For Spirituality in Space Science?
https://undark.org/2022/01/27/is-there- … e-science/
A top NASA official’s biblical remarks about the James Webb Space Telescope sparked an outcry. But they’re nothing new.
Sometimes in France, Britain and the United States of America police resources and a nations support can be wasted because of an old religious Jewish superstition? sometimes one giving resources to follow an Orthodox Judaism type around because he is afraid to touch electric technology or the religion forbids him from using light switches, changing batteries for hearing aids or pressing light switches? United States news media took note that the candidate for U.S. Vice President, Senator Joseph Lieberman, is shomer Shabbat. An electric stove may not be used to cook food, since all cooking of food is forbidden aka bishul in the Jew faith, some Rabbi say an electric lawn mower may not be used, since cutting grass by any means is forbidden aka kotzer, other rules state use of a computer may violate the prohibition of writing (kotev) Many Jews who strictly observe Shabbat aka the shomer Shabbos refrain from using electrical devices on Shabbat, with the exception of passive enjoyment of devices which were set up before Shabbat. Many Jewish authorities permit separating clothes or performing other actions that might generate sparks due to static electricity. Various rabbinical authorities have pronounced on what is permitted and what is not but there is infight and debate and are many disagreements in detailed interpretation, both between different individual authorities and between branches of Judaism....if these very religious people have problems with electricity I'm not sure how they would get work done on an offworld planet like Mars. According to Orthodox authorities, while driving on Shabbat is prohibited directly because of the combustion of fuel, modern automobiles also have numerous electrical components whose operation is prohibited during Shabbat.
https://www.upi.com/Archives/2000/08/07 … 965620800/
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http://www.rabbinicalassembly.org/sites … habbat.pdf
Caste Systems from people who follow Buddha, Karma in Buddhism. Mibo People, Tibetian Ragyabpa, Brahmanism, Nangzan - Household servants of China, Japan the Burakumin untouchable caste people, Ladakh of India the Garba or smiths, Mon musician type and Beda :-These three groups of untouchable groups in Buddhism are victims of many violations in Ladakh. They have separate cups and glasses for drinking local beer Chang or tea at the village gatherings or ceremonies. They are not allowed to eat or drink from the utensils of others as they fear that they would pollute them.the predominant religion in India during the Buddha's time, divided all humans into four castes (attu vanna), priests, warriors, traders and labourers. Thailand the Precariat peoples are the most deprived of all groups in Buddhism. No steady Thai job or Thailand income., a life struggle while the kids only finish the 9-year mandatory education
Class and Caste in Hindu society?
School boy belonging to "untouchable" caste dies after assault for drinking water reserved for upper caste teachers
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ … 766467.ece
Inequality in India can be seen from outer space
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-44193144
Our SpaceFlight Heritage: The atheist and Apollo 8
https://www.spaceflightinsider.com/spac … -apollo-8/
When most people think of Apollo 8, they think of how the Book of Genesis was read from the vicinity of the Moon and the well-wishes the trio of astronauts gave the world. The year 1968 was not a good one in terms of U.S. history, and Apollo 8 ended that dark year on a high note – for most Americans. One exception, an atheist who opted to sue the U.S. government over violations of the first amendment by reading from Genesis on a government-sponsored mission. Who was this person and what happened to them?
Madalyn Murray O’Hair was an activist who founded the American Atheists and served as the organization’s president from 1963 until 1986. Murray is, perhaps, best known for the Murray V. Curlett lawsuit which led to a Supreme Court ruling ending the reading of passages from the Bible in public schools.
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Salman Rushdie and the racism of shielding Muslims from offence
https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/08/2 … m-offence/
Those who want to treat Islam differently to all other faiths see Muslims as lesser citizens.
Wonder as Evangelism: Using the Heavens to Get to Heaven
https://www.kentuckytoday.com/baptist_l … 7250b.html
'What did you feel when you saw the recent images from deep in space taken by the James Webb space telescope'
Letters to the Editor: Secularism protects Christians' religious freedom too
https://news.yahoo.com/letters-editor-s … 16384.html
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Orthodox churches fight over what to say about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, another new monarch and what to expect.
King Charles III — Defender of the Faith
https://archbishopcranmer.com/king-char … the-faith/
The Archbishop of Canterbury calls on bishops to pray for The Queen and her successor, King Charles III
https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/the-archb … ii-180451/
Salman Rushdie's Mind As Sharp As Ever, Says Friend Suketu Mehta
https://www.ndtv.com/video/news/reality … hta-653932
The ambassador answered us that the right was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.
https://archive.org/details/doubthistory00jenn
Today the United States, kamikaze Japan and the US Private Sector seem to be keen on exporting mohammedan islamism to Space, they are now exporting the belief of an islamic monarchy all the way to Mars.
Humanity Rights groups have regarded UAE as generally terrible and evil on human rights, with citizens criticizing the regime imprisoned and tortured, families harassed by the state security apparatus, and cases of forced disappearances. Apostasy in many Arabic and islamic nations and kingdoms is a crime punishable by death.
he International Trade Union Confederation has called on the United Nations to investigate evidence that thousands of migrant workers in the UAE are treated as slave labour.
Homosexuality is illegal and is a capital offence in the UAE even though the founder of islam himself moohammad was probably a terrorist weirdo homosexual and pedophile who raped animals, married a 6 yr old Aisha and dressed in women's clothes and sucked on the tongues of young boys.
While Trump is banned from much of the internet the UAE Government avails official social media accounts to communicate its islamist jihadi propaganda with public and hear their moaning needs, if they moan too mch they send thought cops around to peoples homes to disappear them.
Dancing in public is illegal in the UAE
British woman who went there was charged with "public intoxication and extramarital sex" after she reported being raped.
Afghan woman arrested after accusing Taliban official of rape on social media
https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-w … story.html
A UFO religion is any religion in which the existence of extraterrestrial (ET) entities operating unidentified flying objects (UFOs) is an element of belief. Typically, adherents of such religions believe the ETs to be interested in the welfare of humanity which either already is, or eventually will become, part of a pre-existing ET civilization. Other religions predate the UFO era of the mid 20th century, but incorporate ETs into a more supernatural worldview in which the UFO occupants are more akin to angels than physical aliens, but this distinction may be blurred within the overall subculture. These religions have their roots in the tropes of early science fiction (especially space opera) and weird fiction writings, in ufology, and in the subculture of UFO sightings and alien abduction stories. Historians have considered the Aetherius Society, founded by George King, to be the first UFO religion.
https://web.archive.org/web/20050728092 … erius.html
Aetherius Society at Religious Movements
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http://www.skepticnorth.com/2012/01/tor … my-part-1/
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Archived
https://archive.ph/GXppJ
An Orthodox priest conducts a blessing in front of the Soyuz spacecraft set on the launchpad
https://abbeylink.wordpress.com/2017/08 … launchpad/
Tradition continues
https://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/spa … ing-soyuz/
Russian Orthodox priest blesses the Soyuz at Baikonur Cosmodrome
http://archive.boston.com/bigpicture/20 … ional.html
I Want to Believe
https://slate.com/technology/2021/10/uf … lergy.html
What would religious leaders do if aliens showed up?
If we made contact with aliens, how would religions react?
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2016 … ions-react
Space exploration as religious experience
https://thespacereview.com/article/3310/1
Evangelical astronauts and the perception of God’s worldview
The new American religion of UFOs
https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/4/18 … na-pasulka
Belief in aliens is like faith in religion — and may come to replace it.
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Putin's top priest tells Russians not to fear death amid mobilization
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Russia Resumes Space Mission With US Despite Tensions With West Over Ukraine War
https://www.republicworld.com/science/s … eshow.html
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Who is Artemis? NASA’s latest Moon mission is named for lunar goddess turned feminist icon
https://religionnews.com/2022/09/23/who … nist-icon/
Painting with element of Religion?
A trip to the Moon? Penticton artist selected to be part of upcoming NASA mission
https://www.thegoldenstar.net/news/a-tr … a-mission/
Penticton artist's work hitching ride on NASA's Artemis 1 mission to Moon
https://infotel.ca/newsitem/penticton-a … on/it94160
A Penticton artist will soon have two of her paintings in a time capsule being sent to the Moon.
Ariane` Kamps work was chosen to be part of the Lunar Codex – a project to send time capsules to the Moon containing the digital works of 30,000 artists, writers, musicians and filmmakers.
“It blows me away,” Kamps said. “I always wanted to be an astronaut, but I wasn’t great at math so I guess this is the next best thing.”
Italy's far right set to win election - exit poll
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63029909
In scifi there is often Utopia and Dystopia, Star Trek at times seems like a nice Utopia, the ideally perfect place, especially in its scifi social, political, and moral aspects, 'The Matrix' is a fake VR Utopia, some elements of Marvel comicbook universe and DrWho episodes are Utopian.
The most miserable scifi place I perhaps ever seen in science fiction was 'Warhammer' universe and it is full of religion. It's hard to explain what the fictional Universe is because it seems to be so deep and I have limited knowledge of it, far into the future humans conquer space, multiple planets and stars territory of humans and the whole of the Empire run by a 'God Emperor' a dark place so I won't use the word 'humanity' here. The scifi Warhammer game seems to be first popular in the 80s with 'Space Hulks' I think this is the board game by Games Workshop featuring big Hulking solider guys in powerarmor fighting these Alien H. R. Giger style Xenomorph looking things, I'm not sure why they later changed the name and released stuff under Space Crusade or 'Star Quest' maybe some comicbook company didn't like their use of 'Hulk'. The game was released in England in the late 1980s Games Workshop as a company was already famous for importing Dungeons and Dragons games from America to Britain in the 1970s. For some reason the scifi space Warhammer universe has elements of Tolkien fantasy Dwarf, Orcs etc which in their timeline survived from long ago to the age of space colonization? Why do old fantasy creatures appear in scifi nobody knows, maybe it makes good board game battles? Warhammer itself was the generic name of a number of games marketed by the UK firm, these games have expanded into books, cartoons, movies, video games it has become a very large and massive complex universe like StarWars or StarTrek or Marvel and DC.
But Warhammer it is perhaps the most dark and miserable fictional universe I have seen, once in a while you do find elements of humor where things are extremely bleak. There seems to be very little positive influence on the Universe, their ships fly through this thing called 'The Warp' but the Warp seems to have demonic influence or dark entity or entities living inside it, 'Dark Gods' there are Dark Gods which seem to have an evil mental influence on humans, some of this evil is sometimes resisted by Priests or people who fight mentally for human a kind of unexplained magic or Telepathy a psionic ability. There are corrupted twisted chaotic Dr Frankensteinish humans or half creatures or Demons or 'Gods' sometimes come out of this parallel universe interdimensional Warp and appear on the Battle filed, within the humans themselves an ongoing Civil War about the true Emperors line. There also seems to be a Erich von Däniken or Hoagland style story before War hammer or possibly linked about a Lizard interstellar empire across the Milky Way Galaxy tens of millions of years ago or other aliens or entity that already lived in the universe before humans expanded across planets. Most Warhammer 40K or 40,000 fiction is set around the turn of the 42nd millennium about 39,000 years in the future, humans have not become peaceful but almost de-evolved into a constant State of War. It sometimes seems like a dark weird scifi universe of Reconquista, it can look like a Joe Stalin vs Hitler battle to the death, it can feel like the horror story of a madman Vlad the Impaler needed to defeat Ottoman Turks, King Sobieski, The Inquisition all rolled into one, the human is at a constant state of war with itself, it could also be like the Event Horizon is a 1997 science fiction horror film directed by Paul W. S. Anderson and written by Philip Eisner. They take all the Aesthetics from Wars, the Roman Empire, the Kaiser's Imperial German Army, the British Empire, ghosts and demonology and folklore there are Aesthetic Elements from other cultures like Asia but perhaps because it is British it has a very British Fiction War look to it maybe with most visual influence from Europe or America. They take the Starship Troopers novel by American writer Robert A. Heinlein aesthetic of Military Science Fiction and dial it up to 11.
Mars as a planet features in its fictional history also known as the "Red Planet" the first and greatest Forge World, it is a Manufacturing Planet surrounded by a weird retro look space elevator ring, Mars the look of the planet is a bit broke or shaken, looks to be even in worse shape than it is today and not truly terraformed.
and they Goblins and Monsters fight with Swords, Giant Spears and Chainsaws...just ...because. There are also Elves, kinda bad and even worse demonic ones and a civilization <? of robots that had brought alien dead back to life.
A Monopoly version of the game exists.
Their little maquette and scale model and solider and scifi tank pieces look amazing.
'Halo' is another similar military science fiction media franchise, it is another dark universe of war and maybe it seems to have been inspired by Warhammer. Starcraft seems to be another the world of StarCraft another big military science fiction media franchise and maybe once again Warhammer inspired. Some argued that Tinseltown Hollyweird would just insult their Warhammer fanbase, they could probably never make a Warhammer movie without crapping all over it and forcing some weird random Gay Lesbian Black Muslim Transexuals topic or some other dumb modern political voter thing into it and you would need to go to South Korea or some far off land siolated from US politics to make the show without pushing weird political agendas into it. Starcraft is worth over $1 billion as a franchise and the Halo tv show on Paramount+ seems to have been liked the series already renewed for a second season. Religion, the supernatural occult, Temple and Church is a far stronger feature in the Warhammer frontier.
'What is Warhammer 40K?'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKIxTplTAzA
Exclusive: listen to Jesper Kyd’s main theme for ‘Warhammer 40k: Darktide’
https://www.nme.com/en_asia/news/gaming … de-3316623
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‘God put you in power’, Putin told by Russian Orthodox leader on 70th birthday
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia- … dox-leader
‘Patriarch Kirill actively backs Russian invasion of Ukraine’: Polish gov’t official
https://www.polskieradio.pl/395/9766/Ar … t-official
sounding like jihad holy war?
Makes statements like "sacrifice in the course of carrying out your military duty washes away all sins."
'Russian Orthodox leader's support of war divides church'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLUnf_XJt54
The insane warmongering head of the Russian Orthodox Church Patriarch Kirill
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/24094 … h-birthday
Iran sees renewed protests over Mahsa Amini death amid 'major' internet disruption
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/iran-prot … -1.6613554
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In France and England they say there is now a problem with the spread of islamism ideas.
Biden wanted more muslim immigration for 'diversity' but then starts to lose the vote with the sodomy, homosexual, gay, lesbian stuff?
Science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) a broad term used to group together academic disciplines.
It seems there is a Growing Religious Alliance of Christian, Muslims, Jews etc who don't like to see the weird stuff their kids are reading, go to Ban LGBTQ Books in schools. Jewish university suspends all student clubs after court orders approval of LGBT groups. Some even allege its pedophilia grooming?
Mother Files Police Report over “Gay” Book in High School Library
https://www.metroweekly.com/2022/09/mot … l-library/
The Growing Religious Alliance to Ban LGBTQ Books
https://newrepublic.com/article/168180/ … gbtq-books
Arab-Americans form alliance with GOP in bid to ban explicit LGBT books from Detroit school libraries
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … aries.html
Islamist preacher accused of 'stirring up hatred' in Leicester in clashes between Hindus and Muslims
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … slims.html
'Growing number' of French schoolgirls flouting secularism rules
https://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/272 … rism-rules
Catholic, Muslim and Jewish schools in New York are lobbying ‘with one voice’ for STEM education funding
https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2 … ing-243877
Traditional Democrats had some religion types on their side, the Nu-Left Democrat ones seem to be losing a lot of religion types who vote.
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Japan’s PM orders Unification church investigation as scandal engulfs party
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ … ulfs-party
The difference between Religion and Cults?
Japan's Deadly Doomsday Cult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig4yr1YqA9U
Aum Shinrikyo or Aleph
At the cult's headquarters in Kamikuishiki on the foot of Mount Fuji, police found explosives, chemical weapons, and a Russian Mil Mi-17 military helicopter. While the finding of biological warfare agents such as anthrax and Ebola cultures was reported, those claims now appear to have been widely exaggerated. There were stockpiles of chemicals that could be used for producing enough sarin to kill four million people.
Destroying the World to Save It: Aum Shinrikyo, Apocalyptic Violence, and the New Global Terrorism
https://zoboko.com/text/z4nn5ww1/destro … rrorism/18
The Japanese cult behind the Tokyo Sarin attack
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35975069
Doomsday cult Aum Shinrikyo tested sarin gas at Banjawarn station before Tokyo subway attack
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-10/ … wa/9401216
Group split into Aleph and Hikari no Wa in 2007, had already been formally designated a terrorist organization by several countries, including Russia, Canada, Kazakhstan, as well as the European Union. It was previously designated by the United States as a terrorist organization until 2022, when the State Department determined the group to be largely defunct as a terrorist organization.
On the 1st of January 2019, in Tokyo, Aum sympathizer Kazuhiro Kusakabe told authorities he intentionally rammed into pedestrians crowded into narrow Takeshita Street in Harajuku district as a terrorist attack in "retaliation for an execution". It remains unclear whether he was referencing the 2018 executions of Aum Shinrikyo doomsday cult members directly or making a broader statement. The attack, on New Year's Day, left eight injured. A ninth person was also directly injured by the driver.
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A world reacts to Rishi Sunak as new British PM
People for many decades may have known Hindu Culture or Indian civilization culture through things like Asian Meditation rituals from the Indian sub continent, the Beatles music and George Harrison Bhagavad Gita, or more negative news like Kashmir conflict, Sikh bombings, Rajneeshee bioterror attack or the dance and costume and dress from Bollywood film or Yoga from Sanskrit word “yuji”.
The US Vice President heritage from Jamaica and Chennai, a mix of Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, Jainism, formerly known as Madras, is the capital city of the Indian state of Tamil Nadu.
When Rishi Sunak celebrated Diwali at 11 Downing Street, took oath on the 'Bhagavad Gita'
https://www.deccanherald.com/internatio … 56513.html
Rishi Sunak's first day as prime minister in pictures
https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-63388207
a Sanskrit text from the Bhagavad Gita is revered as a sacred text of Hindu philosophy
The Bhagavad Gita is a Hindu religious text which forms part of the longer epic poem the Mahabbarata. The text takes the form of a discussion between Krishna and Arjuna in which Krishna passes on his teachings. The conversation takes place before a battle in which Arjuna is to fight against some of his relatives.
https://literature.fandom.com/wiki/The_Bhagavad_Gita
Krishna is described in the text as the personification of the god of the universe and the Supreme Personality of God. Krishna says in the Bhagavad Gita that this knowledge was taught to him by the sun god. Krishna then passed it on to Manu, who passed it on to Iksvaku, who passed it on to his disciples. His teachings were lost over the centuries, meaning that Krishna has to explain them again to Arjuna.
There are five main topics in the book: the knowledge of God, Jivas, the living entities whose lives are controlled, Prakrti, material nature, time, the duration of the existence of the whole universe and Karma.
How Rishi Sunak became prime minister: three days in three minutes – video
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/vi … utes-video
When Sunak celebrated Diwali at 11 Downing Street, took oath on the 'Bhagavad Gita'
https://www.ibtimes.co.in/when-sunak-ce … ita-853434
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Sri Lanka’s first satellite, curiously named Ravana-1, a name that meshes religion, myth and modern science
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index. … -ravana-1/
What of 'Occult' in the broad sense perhaps a hidden cult that believes in magic or astrology or demons, it is a category of esoteric supernatural beliefs and practices which generally fall outside the scope of mainstream religion and normal rational science, encompassing phenomena involving otherworldly agency, such as 'magic' although their might be some method to their madness such as hypnotism, , stage show performance, trickery, persuasion etc before the age of reason the Occult was a big thing alongside subjects like Alchemy and other protoscientific written philosophical traditions, superstition about dates the number 13 Triskaidekaphobia. People tried to make predictions with cards, the study of strange things in the forest or lake or sky of UFOs, extra-sensory perception often fall into this murky line between Scientific study and Cult pseudosciences, sometimes demon study or the Occult fall into that weird area of Theosophy and New-Age religion.
World Religious practices may include rituals, sermons, commemoration, readings of belief. Exorcists or Exorcism is not the 'Occult' it is in fact part of most of the mainstream religions on Earth. 84% of the world's population on Earth are affiliated with Christianity other belief like islamist ideas, Hinduism, Jew faith, Buddhism, Shinto, Shamanism, or some form of folk religion. Sometimes Culture, Mythology, Traditions and Religions all blend and intermix.
Yet some think this is our past, Demon Spirits, Witchcraft accusations against children in Africa, Christian trials against the devil worshiper, the Jewish Occult stories, or Salem witch trials in Colonial Christian Massachusetts, magic was widely practiced in the Jewish late Second Temple Period and well documented in the period following the destruction of the Temple into the 3rd, 4th, and 5th centuries. Some modern political people have accused MTV or Hollywood or the film industry of pushing the occult ritual upon people, horror genre utilizes occult themes it might disturb others who do not like the Occult? The Exorcism is the religious or spiritual practice of evicting demons, jinns, or other spiritual entities from a person, or an area, that is believed to be possessed, it also happens in Sikh culture, Taoism and Hinduism. There was a blending of Christian and Pagan faiths in the past, the Jewish magical papyri are a subclass of papyri with specific Jewish magical uses. Some people of medicine and science compare to possession the symptoms associated with physical or mental illnesses but perhaps the belief ritual gives them some comfort or 'cure'. In folk religion, especially in western Japan, misaki are connected to the faith in spirit possession in hostrical writing in Arabia and Europe and North Africa they said the Jew called the Baal Shem could expel a harmful 'dybbuk' through exorcism, Spirit possession in islam and exorcism in Asia, Christian folklore, and voodoo hoodoo a think of past times? The Exorcist practice is ancient and part of the belief system of many cultures and religions.
Putin appointed "chief exorcist" as Kremlin whips up satanic panic
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-chief-ex … il-1754912
Mariupol Council Says Occupiers Cast Out 'Demons' With Exorcism in Azovstal
https://www.newsweek.com/mariupol-counc … al-1755008
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Odinism? This was the pre-christian religion of the nordic and germanic countries of Europe. It is experiencing a revival in England. Human beings are inherently spiritual. As Christianity declines, others religions take its place. Unlike the druidic religion of pre-Roman Britain, we do at least have some surviving literature for Odinism, allowing revival to take place.
http://www.odinistfellowship.co.uk/
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"Plan and prepare for every possibility, and you will never act. It is nobler to have courage as we stumble into half the things we fear than to analyse every possible obstacle and begin nothing. Great things are achieved by embracing great dangers."
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When Church and Spy Agency and Secret Police are the same?
Russian Orthodox Church's Patriarch Kirill spied on Switzerland for KGB in the '70s
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/17 … nd-spy-kgb
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Sacrifice, but not too much sacrifice - Bishop Zubik allowing Catholics to eat meat on St. Patrick's Day
https://www.audacy.com/kdkaradio/news/l … tricks-day
a Roman Catholic Church of Corruption and Abuse will stop controlling people's minds?
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the topic of 'Exorcism'
Books have been sold.
An exorcist explains the demonic : the antics of Satan and his army of fallen angels
https://web.archive.org/web/20220707163 … /945745738
These pages provide a basic orientation in the dark phenomenology, succinctly explaining Catholic doctrine on the fallen angels and the innumerable manifestations
Exorcism the religious or spiritual practice of evicting demons, jinns, or other malevolent spiritual entities from a person, or an area, that is believed to be possessed. In Taoism, exorcisms are performed when an individual has been possessed by an evil spirit for one of two reasons: The victim has disturbed a ghost, regardless of intent, and the ghost now seeks revenge, or the victim has been targeted by someone using black magic to conjure a ghost to possess them. The Jewish exorcism ritual is performed by a rabbi who has mastered Kabbalah. Also present is a minyan a group of ten adult males, who gather in a circle around the possessed person. The group recites Psalm 91 three times, and then the rabbi blows a shofar a ram's horn. Buddhist Tibetan religious ceremony has a focus on driving out all negativity, including evil spirits and misfortunes of the past year. There are also exocists in Korean folk religion, several Buddhist scriptures in the Paritta like Metta Sutta, Dhajagga Sutta, or Ratana Sutta can be recited for exorcism purposes. The 32nd Sutta in "Long Discourses of Buddha" is a poem of spiritual protection against evil spirits
The prophet of islam himself was unsure if he was visited by Angels or Demonic Djinn, the books teach Removing any haram distractions, such as music instruments, amulets tabiz and golden jewelry for 'Exorcism'.
Vaishnava, which reveres Vishnu as the supreme being, exorcisms are performed by reciting the names of Narasimha, a fierce avatar of Vishnu that seeks to destroy evil and restore Dharma, or by reading the Bhagavata Purana, a highly revered text that tells the story of good vanquishing evil. Some Hindu temples, most notably the Mehandipur Balaji Temple in Rajasthan, host exorcism rituals that invoke incarnations of Hanuman.
https://thediplomat.com/2018/06/gods-ag … ur-balaji/
Pope's Exorcist is an American supernatural starring Russell Crowe
Gabriele Amorth was an Italian Catholic priest who claimed to have performed tens of thousands of exorcisms throughout his life.
At the time his claims about Emanuela Orlandi seemed outrageous
https://web.archive.org/web/20120524021 … olice.html
Amorth claimed that Emanuela Orlandi, a Vatican City schoolgirl who went missing in Rome in 1983, was kidnapped for a sex party by a gang involving Vatican police and foreign diplomats. He said that she was later murdered and her body disposed of. Amorth claimed that girls were recruited at the Vatican for parties, adding that her death "was a crime with a sexual motive."
he said the 15-year-old schoolgirl was snatched from the streets of central Rome in the summer of 1983 and forced to take part in sex parties.
It has been suggested that she was taken by the leader of a notorious gang of criminals, who wanted to put pressure on Vatican officials to recover money that he had allegedly lent them.
Another theory is that she was abducted to be used as a bargaining chip for the release from prison of Mehmet Ali Agca, the Turkish gunman who tried to kill John Paul II in St Peter's Square in 1981, reportedly on the orders of the KGB.
But Father Amorth, 85, dismissed the "international dimension", saying that a Vatican archivist had also come to the conclusion that Emanuela was abducted for sexual exploitation.
In 2013, a few days after his election, Pope Francis met the Orlandi family after a mass and told them that "Emanuela is in heaven", implying the girl's death. According to the Orlandi family, this statement was proof that the Holy See knew what happened to Emanuela, despite the Vatican claiming over many years that it was not involved in the matter. Pietro Orlandi asked many times to have a meeting with the Pope in order to ask him more, but the Vatican never replied.The Vatican sex scandal theory re-emerged in October 2022, with the release of the Netflix documentary Vatican Girl: The Disappearance of Emanuela Orlandi, which contained an exclusive testimony of one of Orlandi's best friends. The anonymous woman said that a week before Emanuela's disappearence, Orlandi confessed to her that she had been molested by "someone close to the Pope" on different occasions while she was in the Vatican Gardens.
On 14 December 2022, Italian journalist Alessandro Ambrosini published an exclusive recording from 2009 of Marcello Neroni, a man affiliated with De Pedis and Banda della Magliana, who implied that Orlandi was kidnapped by Enrico De Pedis and his Banda della Magliana on the request of someone inside the Vatican to cover up a sex scandal. The man was later interrogated by Italian authorities.
A presumed plot between the Banda della Magliana and the Vatican had already been mentioned back in 2009 by Maurizio Abbatino, one of the original Banda bosses who went on to collaborate with the judicial systemIn 2017, Italian journalist Emiliano Fittipaldi came into possession of secret Vatican documents that were stolen from the Vatican in 2014 in the major Vatican leaks scandal. One of these documents, signed 28 March 1997, sent to Archibishop Giovanni Battista Re and Archibishop Jean-Louis Tauran, was titled Resoconto sommario delle spese sostenute dallo stato Città del Vaticano per le attività relative alla cittadina Emanuela Orlandi ("Summary report of the expenses incurred by the Vatican City state for activities relating to the citizen Emanuela Orlandi"). This document allegedly shows the Vatican spent over 483 million lira (around 250,000 euros) for maintaining Orlandi from 1983 until 1997. These expenses included school fees at religious institutions, bills for St Mary's Hospital, London, and others. From this document, it transpired that Orlandi could have lived in London under the Vatican protection for years. The last bill is dated 1997 and says "Transfer to Vatican City with relative settlement of final practices", implying an eventual death of Orlandi and the transfer of the body back to the Vatican. The spokesman of the Holy See, Greg Burke, called these documents "false and ridiculous". These documents are considered false by both Vatican and Italian authorities. However, many—including the Orlandi family—have speculated that because these documents came from inside the Vatican, they could have been written and released on purpose as a warning between internal factions within the Vatican to keep the truth secret
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More Sheikh and Sultan arriving in space.
and Ukrainian considers priests under the Moscow Patriarchate to be part of an enemy culture religion?
Moscow-linked church to vacate all Kyiv-Pechersk Lavra premises
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/moscow- … 51187.html?
Oleksandr Tkachenko, Ukraine’s Minister of Culture and Information Policy, has said that monks and priests from the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate (UOC-MP) must vacate all premises of the Kyiv-Pechersk Lavra (the Monastery of the Caves in Kyiv) by the end of March.
Previously: The UOC-PC has occupied the premises of the Kyiv-Pechersk Lavra free of charge for many years. It has a monastery on the Pechersk Hills.
On 10 March, the National Kyiv-Pechersk Historical and Cultural Reserve where the Lavra is located informed the UOC-PC monastery that the 10-year-old agreement (dated 19 July 2013) on the free use of religious buildings and other state-owned property would be terminated on 29 March 2023.
The notice included a demand that the Church vacate the buildings at 11, Lavrska St and 15, Lavrska St in Kyiv.
The UOC-MP stated that there were no legal grounds for its eviction, which it called a "whim of officials from the Ministry of Culture".
Background:
During a meeting on 1 December, Ukraine’s National Security and Defence Council (NSDC) instructed the Cabinet of Ministers to propose that the Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian Parliament) institute a ban on the UOC-MP, and also initiated a review of the legality of the UOC-MP’s presence at the Kyiv-Pechersk Lavra.
The Security Service of Ukraine (SSU) conducted dozens of searches of the premises of UOC-MP churches and monasteries, including at the Kyiv-Pechersk Lavra. The SSU considers UOC-MP priests to be enemy agents.
In 2022, the SSU opened 52 criminal cases involving 55 clergymen of the UOC-MP, including 14 bishops.
Almost 200 clerics of the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) have been banned from entering Ukraine. Ukraine has also imposed sanctions on the UOC-MP and ROC leaders.
As of 23 February 2023, the SSU has investigated nearly 60 criminal proceedings against pro-Russian clergy of the UOC-MP, with more than 350 church buildings and 850 people undergoing extensive checks. The courts have handed down seven guilty verdicts.
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Will the Occult, Paranoid Conspiracy and Masonry be on the Mars Frontier?
'Religion' at times might be a form of deception, most of the time I can be Agnostic but if I feel 'Religion' is invading or subverting or preacher and rabbi and priest brainwashing try to steal freedoms I can go Atheist, for example be very critical of Islamism and Jihadi culture. In our quest for a diverse, all rights, multi-culture world are all culture and religion truly the same?
I think most religion has proliferated into space by the USA but other nations and Private groups and other Space Agency have also helped spread religions into space
Paganism and Shamanism existed before Colonial times and Religion or Christianity was undoubtedly a root of modern America, a very religious place before it was born.
For some time the question of the religious faith of the Founding Fathers has generated a culture war in the United States.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Fo … ty-1272214
Scholars trained in research universities have generally argued that the majority of the Founders were religious rationalists or Unitarians. Pastors and other writers who identify themselves as Evangelicals have claimed not only that most of the Founders held orthodox beliefs but also that some were born-again Christians.
Whatever their beliefs, the Founders came from similar religious backgrounds. Most were Protestants. The largest number were raised in the three largest Christian traditions of colonial America—Anglicanism (as in the cases of John Jay, George Washington, and Edward Rutledge), Presbyterianism (as in the cases of Richard Stockton and the Rev. John Witherspoon), and Congregationalism (as in the cases of John Adams and Samuel Adams). Other Protestant groups included the Society of Friends (Quakers), the Lutherans, and the Dutch Reformed. Three Founders—Charles Carroll and Daniel Carroll of Maryland and Thomas Fitzsimmons of Pennsylvania—were of Roman Catholic heritage.
The sweeping disagreement over the religious faiths of the Founders arises from a question of discrepancy. Did their private beliefs differ from the orthodox teachings of their churches? On the surface, most Founders appear to have been orthodox (or “right-believing”) Christians. Most were baptized, listed on church rolls, married to practicing Christians, and frequent or at least sporadic attenders of services of Christian worship. In public statements, most invoked divine assistance.
But the widespread existence in 18th-century America of a school of religious thought called Deism complicates the actual beliefs of the Founders. Drawing from the scientific and philosophical work of such figures as Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Isaac Newton, and John Locke, Deists argued that human experience and rationality—rather than religious dogma and mystery—determine the validity of human beliefs. In his widely read The Age of Reason, Thomas Paine, the principal American exponent of Deism, called Christianity “a fable.” Paine, the protégé of Benjamin Franklin, denied “that the Almighty ever did communicate anything to man, by…speech,…language, or…vision.” Postulating a distant deity whom he called “Nature’s God” (a term also used in the Declaration of Independence), Paine declared in a “profession of faith”:
I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life. I believe in the equality of man; and I believe that religious duties consist in doing justice, loving mercy, and in endeavoring to make our fellow-creatures happy.
Thus, Deism inevitably subverted orthodox Christianity. Persons influenced by the movement had little reason to read the Bible, to pray, to attend church, or to participate in such rites as baptism, Holy Communion, and the laying on of hands (confirmation) by bishops. With the notable exceptions of Abigail Adams and Dolley Madison, Deism seems to have had little effect on women. For example, Martha Washington, the daughters of Thomas Jefferson, and Elizabeth Kortright Monroe and her daughters seem to have held orthodox Christian beliefs.
But Deistic thought was immensely popular in colleges from the middle of the 18th into the 19th century. Thus, it influenced many educated (as well as uneducated) males of the Revolutionary generation. Although such men would generally continue their public affiliation with Christianity after college, they might inwardly hold unorthodox religious views. Depending on the extent to which Americans of Christian background were influenced by Deism, their religious beliefs would fall into three categories: non-Christian Deism, Christian Deism, and orthodox Christianity.
The religious beliefs of America’s Founding Fathers: Christians or deists?
https://greatamericanhistory.net/blog/t … or-deists/
An Introduction to the Quaker Influence During America’s Founding
https://www.battlefields.org/learn/arti … s-founding
Many secularists today claim that instead of being Christians, the Founders were deists. But there is even less support for mere deism than there is for Christianity. Deists believe in the existence of a creator God, but do not believe He intervenes in human affairs. Contrary to believing in an indifferent Creator, most of the Founders took the position of the Theist—that prayer is important because God intervenes in the affairs of mankind. Even a casual reading of the writings of Founders such as George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, Benjamin Franklin, and John Adams demonstrates this.
It is true that a few of the Founders (such as Thomas Paine) were deists, and that some of the Founders (such as Alexander Hamilton) were Christians. But the majority of the Founders were somewhere in between. Their beliefs were, in fact, in line with something that is becoming increasingly described as theistic rationalism.
I think it should also be mentioned a lot of guys around the time of the Founding Fathers were parts of Lodges or belonged to Freemasons, you can read online about Masonry but there are a lot of contradicting and paranoid and occult stuff out there, this subject is its own Theist, Ritual, Practice rabbit hole with a lot of conspiracy.
Difference Between York Rite and Scottish Rite
http://www.differencebetween.net/miscel … tish-rite/
York Rite, sometimes referred to as the American Rite, is one of several Rites of Freemasonry. Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry the Northern Masonic Jurisdiction in the United States often omits the and, while the English Constitution in the United Kingdom omits the Scottish, commonly known as simply the Scottish Rite or, in England and Australia, as the Rose Croix.
George Washington was a Freemason
Gerald Ford was who served as the 38th president of the United States was a Freemason
J. Edgar Hoover the founder of the FBI was a Freemason
John Wayne was a Freemason
Buzz Aldrin, astronaut, second man on the moon is a Freemason.
You see Masonic symbols all over many of America's buildings and some other Western nations
The third major party in the United States was an Anti-Masonic Party it strongly opposed Freemasonry in the United States after stories of conspiracy killings. It was active from the late 1820s it declines after 1832 and members joined the new Whig Party.
Some notable leaders were Freemasons ...but...
So was serial killer John Wayne Gacy 'Moose Lodge' which has weird ritual prayers on children and Sirhan Sirhan who shot Robert Kennedy he had lots of writing on 'Rosicrucianism' Order.
Some conspiracy people who have appeared on shows like Joe Rogan allege a number of lodges like 'The Shriners' or Jesters link to Gnosticism, the Occult, Mal-theism and the true religion of networking, abuse or blackmail remains hidden. Gnosticism a collection of religious Greek, Arab, Roman ideas and systems that coalesced in the late 1st century AD among Jewish and early Christian sects. Various groups emerge and push the idea of personal spiritual knowledge gnosis above the orthodox teachings, traditions, and authority of religious institutions. Gnostic cosmogony generally presents a distinction between a supreme, hidden God and a malevolent lesser divinity, Gnostic texts deal not in concepts of sin and repentance, but with illusion and enlightenment they might have taken ideas from ancient Iran, the Mandaeans or the Persian Empire. Outside of the conspiracy we know Freemasons are not the same 'WASP' club it used to be African-Americans are Freemasons, Women are Freemasons in the Rainbow Girls or Job's Daughters and College party Greek letter sorority and sister hoods, to most they are known as a kind of old boys’ club, old men meet up with other old men to smoke cigars and drink, all funny aprons and comedic handshakes. However the Freemasons did make William Morgan 'Disappear' and they are known to hang out to Bones and Skulls and some dress up in old Pagan Robes like you might see in a cartoon.
and it would seem that even George Floyd a person people went out and rioted for and burned down cities might have been a Freemason and had a lot of Masonic Symbolism on his coffin at those funerals.
Biden says ‘real power’ lies with the 'Divine Nine'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PAlcYcnjiM
Umbrella council composed of historically African American fraternities and sororities, Divine Nine, also formally known as the National Pan-Hellenic Council (NPHC), is a council consisting of nine historically Afro Black sororities and fraternities.
There are sites which watch them
'An earlier Ponzi pain lingers' - Boston North Freemasonry Watch
https://www.freemasonrywatch.org/boston … cheme.html
BBC Secretive Rituals of Freemasonry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyyLdfH6XBA
Many will just say its an old boys or old girls 'Networking Club'.
Some cultures now put their religions in space, .
SDSAT a 3U cubesat launched aboard PSLV-C51 carried a digital copy of Bhagavad Gita into space in an SD card
https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/ … -gita.html
Jeffrey Hoffman took multiple Jewish objects to space on his space flights from 1985 to 1996: a miniature Torah scroll, a yad, a Torah breastplate, mezuzot (plural of "mezuzah"), menorahs, a dreidel, hand-woven tallit, and kiddush cups.
American astronaut Sunita Williams took a copy of the Bhagavad Gita to the International Space Station. In July 2012, she took there a peaceful Om and a copy of the Upanisha
https://web.archive.org/web/20210331134 … 9PF9qiOITw
Concerns grow in Malaysia over freedom of expression under Anwar government
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-as … government
islamic propaganda from Bangladesh, Pakistan, Bengal?
'The fake pictures of the Rohingya crisis'
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-32979147
Then there's this photo which has been widely shared, particularly in India and Pakistan, showing a motorcycle riding across the hands of school students who are lying on the ground with outstretched arms. The incident was actually a stunt by a martial arts trainer in south India:
A prayer in space?
Bill Anders
We are now approaching lunar sunrise, and for all the people back on Earth, the crew of Apollo 8 has a message that we would like to send to you.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.[6]
Jim Lovell
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.[6]
Frank Borman
And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
And from the crew of Apollo 8, we close with good night, good luck, a Merry Christmas – and God bless all of you, all of you on the good Earth
https://web.archive.org/web/20090109121 … its789.htm
I have seen Chinese mark festival in Space or maybe spiritual tradition on a Space Station but I have yet to see them promote religions, Astronauts and Cosmonauts, and 'spaceflight participants' have observed their religions while in space
Pareidolia a psychological phenomenon for example seeing images of faces in clouds?
NASA's Curiosity Rover captures image of 'Buddha' on Mars
https://abc7news.com/nasa-curiosity-rov … n/1040489/
Sikhism or Sikh Dharma, is a religion originally from India one of the 5 Dharmic faiths or Indic Faiths which means it was originated in Indian Subcontinent and whose followers are called "Sikhs" comes from the Sanskrit the holy book is the Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Guru is the word for teacher in Sanskrit while Granth is the word for book, scripture or text in Sanskrit. Sikhs historically almost utterly destroyed islam but before they defeated jihadi islamists at the last moment, they changed their mind and said all religions and all peoples are the same, they also believe that a piece of God resides within everything in the world. It is the fifth largest organized religion in the world just after Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism and the political religious systems of islamism,
It is one of the 5 Dharmic or Indic Faith's of India with Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism.
Cartoon - Rise and Fall of the Sikh Empire explained in less than 7 minutes Sikh history documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBcvMiY8b2k
British Pathé - Hindus and Sikhs Riot: New Delhi, India 1966
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjYH9FbHqSw
India police seek Sikh leader Amritpal Singh, arrest separatist supporters
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/india-poli … -1.6325085
Is Sikh extremism really active in Canada?
https://theconversation.com/is-sikh-ext … nada-93566
Does the culture spread, Kamala is not Sikh but India culture seems to spread or is Team Nikki Haley starting to sound like a nu-Christian Evangelical Neo-Con or maybe just easily beguiled and led around by other religious talking heads? whatever she is after praising good old civilian leader Aung San Suu Kyi now Nikki Haley is often quick to spread islamists propaganda on random 'Rohingya Holocausts' that propagandists dream up? After wanting a change of government in Syria, Haley stated that the U.S. would no longer focus on forcing Syrian president Bashar al-Assad to leave power, she bought into media propaganda that Trump was going to ban every Muslim on Planet Earth spoke to media as a UN Ambassador and said she would not support a ban on Muslim immigration to the United States.
The Masonic types? Some alleged say many of these clubs had Germanic Pagan Roots or have links to Arabia or Eastern Europe or old networks from older long forgotten Empires.
Skull & Bones: The Secret Society That Unites John Kerry and President Bush
https://www.democracynow.org/2004/1/22/ … ciety_that
Lots of wiki edits, Paranoid, Deletes and Numerology Calculators
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Skull_and_Bones
'Bones may have Pancho Villa skull'
https://web.archive.org/web/20081220084 … ticle=2801
Descendants of the Apache warrior filed a federal lawsuit against the secretive Skull and Bones society of Yale University demanding that the group — which it claims is in possession of Geronimo's remains — return them to his family.
https://web.archive.org/web/20090226150 … 72,00.html
Landscape improvements to the grounds of Yale's oldest senior society were based on an understanding of the site's urban context and a respect for historical precedence. Key to the improvements was the design of an 8-foot wrought iron fence. The architectural character of the area and subtle symbolic references to the secret society inspired the design.
https://web.archive.org/web/20070918134 … dbones.php
Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, DC '68, was a member
https://web.archive.org/web/20081220084 … ticle=2801
Conspiracies and books about the unexplained?
A writer and radio guy Texe Marrs often ranted about a 'New World Order' Illuminati and Freemasonry conspiracy theories, he was an officer in the United States Air Force for 20 years he often wrote crazy outrageous ideas like Newt Gingrich was a closet Communist Marxist Bolshevik and member of the occultist secret society known as the Bohemian Grove.
The Bohemian Grove used to be dismissed as 'crazy' talk but it turned out to be real, it is a restricted campground at in Monte Rio, California. However Texe Marrs was often a Doomsday preacher, he said hillary Clinton was into magic and member of the traitorous Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, and Council of Foreign Relations, he has also promoted a book, The Greatest Lie on Earth: Proof That Our World is Not a Moving Globe, which alleges that the planet Earth is immobile and flat.
Texe Marrs
https://www.texemarrs.com/082002/masoni … _bible.htm
This is what a man, identifying himself as a 32nd degree Mason, recently wrote me. The angry fellow insisted he is a Christian and that Freemasonry is also Christian.
"But, unlike you," he jibed, "I'm a believer in the true God and the true Jesus Christ—the God who answers to many names such as Allah, Krishna, Osiris, and Zoroaster, and the Christ who loves and accepts Buddhists, Hindus, Moslems, and people of every faith and creed."
Shriners (The) Allah's Islamic Cult Inside the Masonic Lodge
https://www.texemarrs.com/mm5/merchant. … p_shriners
The Shriners is a fraternal organization that grew out of the Masonic movement in the United States in the latter part of the 19th century. The organization is predicated on principles of philanthropy, brotherly love, peace and strong family values. The Shriners are not a religious organization as such, even though spiritual belief is a fundamental principle for the group -- Shriners are Freemasons, who must profess a belief in a supreme being in some form, and who make use of Bibles in their rituals.
https://classroom.synonym.com/are-the-s … 85429.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20210729121 … allah.html
One of the most distinguishing marks of a Shriner is the Fez hat that he wears. So named after the city of Fez, Morocco, which has been the site of numerous documented massacres of both Jews and Christians by various Muslim conquerors. The Fez is a distinctly Muslim symbol and, at least indirectly, celebrates the Muslim conquest of the area.
The emblem found on the fez is of direct Muslim origin. It contains the Arabic pagan god symbols of the Crescent Moon and Star, originally the symbol of the Ottoman Empire, now an international symbol of Islam. (Before being selected as the demon that Mohammed would force his followers to “submit” to, Allah was originally the Arabian “moon god,” one of approximately 360 Arabic tribal “gods.”) The symbols are hung under a “scimitar” or an Arabic sword of war. This is the sword that has killed the “infidels” down through the ages under Muslim conquest.
The Mystic Order of Veiled Prophets of the Enchanted Realm, also known as M.O.V.P.E.R. or The Grotto, after its lodge equivalent, is an appendant body in Freemasonry. The name of the organization, as well as its principle female auxiliary were derived from Lalla-Rookh by Thomas Moore. Members are distinguished by a black fez with a red tassel and a Mokanna head in the middle.
https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-enc … ith-Masons
another 'Sultan'
https://gab.com/r7booster/posts/109994538608076421
Sultan AlNeyadi shares his first view from ISS cupola.
"Sharing with you my first views of Earth from the Cupola Observational Module aboard the ISS. The further we journey from Earth, the more we realize just how precious it truly is. Let us cherish and preserve this incredible planet we call home."
and a fatwa forbidding devout Muslims from participating as crew members in Mars One's proposed one-way mission to Mars
https://web.archive.org/web/20190618010 … m-ke-mars/
and in Asia, Latin America and the Caribbean many Lodges left behind, District Grand Brotherhood Lodge of India, Grand Lodge of Free & Accepted Masons of the Philippines, Freemason Grand Lodge of Lebanon, Grand Orient d'Haiti or Grand Orient of Haiti, United Grand Lodge of New South Wales and the Australian Capital Territory, Gran Logia de la Argentina de Libres y Acceptados Masones the Grand Masonry Lodge of Argentina, Grande Oriente do Brasil, the Masonic Lodge of Hong Kong and the Far East, District Grand Lodge of Bengal India, Grand Lodge of Japan founded under a Japanese stupid looking version of the Eiffel Tower not long after those Atomic Bombs were dropped and the Japan surrender the 'Grand Lodge of Japan'.
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A non-profit foundation under public law that promotes evolutionary humanism and the enlightenment. It was founded by entrepreneur Herbert Steffen in 2004 and was named after Giordano Bruno
https://www.giordano-bruno-stiftung.de/en
Giordano Bruno Foundation celebrates 100 years of evolutionary humanism – despite Corona, war, and climate change
Named after an Italian mathematician, philosopher, poet, cosmological theorist...Cause of death 'Execution by Burning'
the Legal Trail of Wrong-Thinker, in Vatican Archive books it says The Vatican has "regrets" for the burning, records of the Venetian trial.
law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/bruno/brunosummary.html
He was tried as a heretic, Bruno was imprisoned, tortured, and, after eight years, finally burned while still alive burnt to death just as ISIS have done in recent years to Iraqi, Syrian, Kurdish and Yezidi.
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