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Russian Orbital Service Station's design revealed in animation

https://videos.space.com/m/B2BgkOjG/rus … -animation

Jeff Greason has been discussed on this newmars forum a few times before, Jeff Greason Policy Talk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv9kVJvOVeo

US public opinion, public interest?
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2022/08/24/ … st-waning/

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The fact that Russia and China have been escalating war efforts is that it is slowing peaceful exploration of space.

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NASA revises requirements for ISS private astronaut missions. Now a former NASA astronaut must accompany the private citizens.
https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/statu … 4763108354

Russian Angara rocket to launch commercial missions
https://www.spaceflightinsider.com/miss … -missions/

Long gone are the days when people thought the USA / NASA and Russia would share Mars village and people once considered a Buran to Mars. A costly war and a Space Program in a worse condition than 1990s Russia? First Animal / Dog in space, First Man in Space, First Woman in Space. First probe to impact the surface of Mars, Mars 2.
1971 First probe to land on Mars, and briefly transmit before dying Mars 3.

World should prepare for the collapse of Russia, warns former US general

https://www.yahoo.com/news/collapse-rus … 52649.html

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The ISS is not owned by one Space Group and Not owned by one single nation, it is an interntional agreemnet and shared responsibility, the owners of the Space Station - the United States, Russia, the European Partner, Japan and Canada - are legally responsible for the module and science and life support elements they provide.

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"We may be looking at the collapse of the Russian Federation as it is over the next four or five years.

"We were not prepared for the collapse of the Soviet Union [in 1991]. We need to be prepared for this possibility."

Explaining why Russia could break up, he said: "The military has been exposed, the massive amounts of corruption I think are going to become increasingly intolerable for Russian citizens.

NASA requests proposals for two ISS private astronaut missions
https://spacenews.com/nasa-requests-pro … -missions/
NASA is requesting proposals for two private astronaut missions to the International Space Station in 2023 and 2024, enforcing a requirement such missions be commanded by former NASA astronauts.

Will Russia now forever more play a limited role in Space?

Warsaw Pact, following Albanian–Soviet split, Tito–Stalin split, De-satellization of Communist Romania, Mao vs Khrushchev, Cuban Missile Crisis, a collapsing economy and economic recessions, the expensive Afghanistan.

Glasnost, Perestroika, plans that were supposed to reform?
https://web.archive.org/web/20051020010 … rnational/
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc1/Perestroika.html

Alma-Ata Protocols were the founding declarations and principles of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS). The leaders of Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus had agreed to the Belovezh Accords, Declaration and Treaty on the Formation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics officially created the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR), commonly known as the Soviet Union. National Salvation Front or FNS was the first group to be banned in post-Soviet Russia before playing a leading role in the 1993 Russian constitutional crisis.  The 1993 Russian constitutional crisis, also known as the 1993 October Coup, Black October, was a political stand-off and a constitutional crisis between the Russian president Boris Yeltsin and the Russian parliament that was resolved by Yeltsin using military force, the Chernobyl disaster was a nuclear accident that occurred on 26 April 1986.

Socialmedia Cartoon
Ten Minute History - The Decline and Dissolution of the Soviet Union (Short Documentary)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqt3U48MFcY
by History Matters
from a  patreon channel amatterofhistory
Before Bezos or Branson or Musk got into the Commercialization of Space an economically collapsing Russia was already selling seats and adverts on its MIR, Project Juno was a privately funded campaign which selected Helen Sharman to be the first Briton in space.

Nasa’s Artemis launch will help us on Earth, says first Briton in space
https://inews.co.uk/news/science/care-a … ce-1830180

'Out of the Present' trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQRx22dJswE
Between 1986 and 2000, 104 individuals visited the Mir space station

Sergei Krikalev is best known as the last Soviet citizen Sergei Krikalev he is a Russian cosmonaut. He ranks third for the amount of time in space: a total of 803 days, but he is best known as the last soviet citizen, departing from the USSR and watched the USSR collapse below him, he pieced together what happened while Russian political leadership tried to be quiet about what happened.

Krikalev flew on STS-60, the first joint U.S./Russian Space Shuttle Mission in 1994, he retired from spaceflight in 2007 and was working as vice president of Corporation Energia.

A character based on Krikalev features in the 2017 Cuban film drama Sergio and Sergei, in which a professor and amateur radio enthusiast in Havana contacts a cosmonaut named Sergei aboard the Mir space station. The film draws parallels between economic hardships in Cuba at the time and the fall of the Soviet Union, which occurred as the real-life Krikalev was aboard Mir.

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Protests in Novosibirsk/Russia. police officers detained a local resident who shouted to the security forces "I don't want to die for Putin and for you!"

https://twitter.com/iamdenya_de/status/ … 3356174338

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Russia Space Chief Backtracks on Minimum Date Roscosmos Will Leave ISS
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-iss-lea … 28-1745223

There was also some news about research experiments online by ESA Italian astronaut Samantha Cristoforetti, the Kibo laboratory module and Japan to develop habitation unit for Gateway lunar station.

Russia is no longer part of ExoMars and will not be involved in Gateway, its seems China ignores them and considers them dead weight to their Chinese space program.

N° 16–2022: Redirecting ESA programmes in response to geopolitical crisis

https://www.esa.int/Newsroom/Press_Rele … cal_crisis
'ESA will discontinue cooperative activities with Russia on Luna-25, -26 and -27.'

New crew arrives at the space station for a six-month mission, "turtles" in space, and a harvest of space-grown lettuce and wheat
https://twitter.com/Space_Station/statu … 1491603457

Putin ally Yevgeny Prigozhin admits founding Wagner mercenary group
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ … nary-group

Colonel Mikhail Shendakov in the Moscow reserves, an activist previously already arrested, has been arrested again, this time for sharing a photo with the phrase "Putin you're fu$ked" with a backdrop of the Russian flag.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1 … 0274025472

'The Georgian-Russian border now looks something like this. The mass media write about a queue 18 km long'
https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/sta … 5425608704

Gunman kills 13 and injures 21 in school shooting in Russia
https://www.sundayworld.com/news/world- … 03068.html

Reported rumors on social media

'At lesat 6 killed in a shooting at a school in the city of Izhevsk, according to Russia's state media'
https://twitter.com/guyelster/status/15 … 7990019073

Drafted man sets himself on fire at bus station in Russia’s Ryazan
https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/0 … yazan-news

Just one guy dead or Mass shooting at Russian draft conscription?
maybe it was a shotgun blast, seems like he's dead before he hit the floor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kHfzpWsGrw

everyone scrambles to flee

Russian commander shot at military enlistment office in Ust-Ilimsk, Russia
https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/09/26/r … sk-russia/

US and Russia resume joint space missions despite Ukraine tensions
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/science/artic … 81_10.html

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A country led by a man worse and more wicked than Peter the Great and Catherine the Great but some say he's not the worst in history, maybe not as bad as a Tyrant Madman like Ivan the Terrible...but time is early yet.

Ivan IV Vasilyevich, the Russian throne was left to his unfit middle son, Feodor, a weak-minded figure. Feodor died childless in 1598, which ushered in the Time of Troubles.

Russia space agency seeking to extend ISS participation past 2024
https://phys.org/news/2022-10-russia-sp … y-iss.html

New destination sought for axed UK built Mars rover
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-63118856
Engineers are looking for a new destination for a British-built rover that was meant to go to Mars.
They've got their eyes on the Moon.

Planetary rover once intended for Mars tested in Milton Keynes quarry
https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 … nes-quarry

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Russia's war on Ukraine has caused lasting damage to international spaceflight cooperation

https://www.space.com/russia-war-ukrain … ooperation

"The biggest impact is likely to be on the next human spaceflight missions after ISS comes to an end," says Weeden. "The Russians have created a lot of ill-will not only in their actions in Ukraine but also by their actions in many of the multilateral fora (like the UN) over the last 9 years." 

Russian Orbital Service Station a proposed Russian orbital space station scheduled to begin construction in 2027
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56812294

Another older topic
'202*? and then there might be 2 stations in LEO'

https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=7224

Buran on the Antonov An-225 Mriya at the 1989 Paris Air Show.
Both vehicles have since been destroyed.

https://twitter.com/11K25_Energia/statu … 4413798404

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Kazakhstan seizes property of Russian space company for unpaid debt
https://www.laprensalatina.com/kazakhst … paid-debt/

Hyundai Motor in talks to sell Russia plant to Kazakhstan -media report
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/busines … rt-3337281
South Korea's Hyundai Motor Co is in talks with a Kazakhstan company over the sale of its manufacturing plant in Russia

Kazakhstan Impounds Property Of Russian Cosmodrome Operator In Baikonur

https://www.rferl.org/a/kazakhstan-impo … 17248.html

Kazakh authorities have impounded the property of Russia's main operator of spacecraft launching sites

Russia’s allies are a motley—and shrinking—crew
https://www.economist.com/international … nking-crew

‘Russia has lost its soft power’: how war in Ukraine destabilises old Soviet allies

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ … iet-allies

Protests in Georgia last week were just the latest indication of how Putin’s disastrous invasion has damaged relations

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Opinion

NASA must de-orbit the Space Station and say ‘dasvidaniya’ to Russia

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-se … to-russia/

'Russia’s Luna-25 sends back first images from space'
https://indianexpress.com/article/techn … s-8893635/

The last Moon mission from Russia was Luna-24, which was launched in 1976 when the country was part of the Soviet Union.

Russia’s central bank makes huge interest rate hike to try to prop up falling ruble
https://thehill.com/homenews/ap/ap-busi … ing-ruble/

US government sanctions Russians on the board of Alfa Group in response to war in Ukraine
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/ap-r … 91664.html

Russians might opt out of Olympics: Ukrainian Sports Minister
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/2 … minister-1

The Russian Luna-25 mission, the first since 1976, is racing against India, which launched its Chandrayaan-3 lunar lander last month, to complete a soft landing on the moon's south pole where scientists believe there are pockets of water ice.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/spac … 023-08-13/

a thread from an older time of debate and an interesting thread to read, some debated Russia would not go beyond LEO again, others said Russian rockets would remain strong and they never seen industry from ESA, India, China passing out Russian feats.

Perhaps no tourism for a while, no flights after Russia's invasion of Ukraine and sanctions

'Soyuz:  Fly Me to the Moon'
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2559

Rocket Soyuz-2.1b / Fregat from Launch site Vostochny Cosmodrome