ISS - Beware the Bear

publiusr · 2006-10-27 13:00:21

I for one would like to see our relations with Russia warm. Putin just needs to understand that Islamic nuts are the US' enemy now--not Russia. Buy oil from Russia--and threat nations around the Gulf have no money to buy Russian weapons with US petrodollars.

By warming relations--US money goes to soviet oil fields--not to AK-47s our defense dollars must match..

We are paying both sides of the war.

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-02-24 08:32:53

Conflicting reports on what is really happening, like most times truth will go out the window

'Right now, people who are not tied to political madness coexist in peace, collaborating for science and progress.
Up there, 400 kilometers high. War is only a prerogative of poor minds.'

https://twitter.com/RaffaeleDiPalma/sta … 9325579265

The Ukraine crisis challenges International Space Station cooperation
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Ukra … n_999.html

U.S. and Europe say space cooperation with Russia not affected yet by Ukraine crisis
https://spacenews.com/u-s-and-europe-sa … ne-crisis/

Youtube seems to be censoring a lot these past years, so stuff might come out on twitter, odysee or bitchute or 4chan type websites

https://odysee.com/$/search?q=ukraine
https://www.bitchute.com

Unfortunately a more free and open site does not mean a more truthful site, it can be a more chaotic site, it will have radical Antifa Socialist types, Rightwing Qanon, LaRouche Organization, David Icke cultists etc Or 'shills' posting disinfo.

Ukraine ...Well it is hot now, unconfirmed and some confirmed reports of bullets firing and missiles flying, ships are moving and their predatory birds are in the air
https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status … 1119079430

https://twitter.com/aldin_ww/status/1496859692382965763

The twitter user poster claims both aircraft were taking on each other

These vids claim to be from the ground
https://twitter.com/BFreeTheatre/status … 7038404617
https://twitter.com/Russia_Ukrain01/sta … 9474070528
https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status … 0735201284

Lots of boycotts, sanctions coming?

or more and worse looming

What Kazakhstan says about the autocracy question
https://thehill.com/opinion/internation … y-question

Could there be a possible "orderly evacuation".
https://spectrum.ieee.org/what-happens- … ce-station

Four US astronauts and two Russian cosmonauts aboard International Space Station are 'largely isolated' from tensions over Ukraine invasion
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … raine.html

International Space Station ‘largely isolated’ from tensions over Ukraine
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/sp … er-ukraine

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Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-03-07 17:04:36

Looks like Scott Kelly called Dmitry Rogozin 'a child' in Russian, after he Dmitry posted a nasty comment
https://twitter.com/stationcdrkelly/sta … 6558592003

Here is something strange, the next space flight is not international?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_MS-21
'The three-Russian member crew were named in May 2021. Although NASA had not decided whether or not they will purchase a seat on the flight, NASA astronaut Loral O'Hara was preparing to replace Sergey Korsakov if the agency decided to buy a seat. Later NASA decided not to acquire a seat on the Soyuz MS-21 launching in March 2022, deferring a NASA Roscosmos seat swap for Soyuz MS-22 and SpaceX Crew-5. It will be the first mission to the ISS with three Roscosmos cosmonauts.'

Russian leadership's unhinged behavior could cross red line in space partnership, former astronaut says
https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-l … onaut-says

Elon Musk sends starlink to Ukraine, Tonga, defends space station
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/elon-m … 66ZRN26JQ/

Seems from news reports that an icon of the skies a Ukrainian An-124' or old Russian Antonov An-124 was blown to pieces, plans to resume joint production of the Antonov An-124 cargo transport aircraft had been shelved due to the ongoing political tensions, the Antonov Mriya was once used to transport the Russian Soviet SpaceShuttle or 'Buran'.

It looks as if the International Space Station is at risk at being finished, hot heads, global tensions and Russia talks about moving away or disassemble and it is almost done on the ISS ?
Seems so stupid after all this time working together to let it all fail or even try to start disconnecting modules

clark · 2022-03-09 02:38:19

I have to believe that the people, on both sides, who spend their whole lives dedicated to making "people in space" happen, will sort this out. Political appointee's and twitter whores are just speed bumps. And if that is not the case, and ISS burns in a fiery farewell, for political points, we have only ourselves to blame. It wasn't important enough to keep aloft and we didn't make the case well enough. You may want to argue the point, but the outcome is still the same.

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-03 03:46:41

Russia will pull out of the International Space Station, space agency chief confirms
https://www.livescience.com/russia-to-l … chief-says

Calliban · 2022-05-03 04:32:03

Mars_B4_Moon wrote:

Russia will pull out of the International Space Station, space agency chief confirms
https://www.livescience.com/russia-to-l … chief-says

Let's hope NASA & SpaceX have another option for sustaining ISS orbit. Otherwise, the ISS won't survive the next solar storm. The ionosphere tends to expand upwards during those events. Someone once told me that that is how Skylab met its end.

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Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-08 15:08:25

Russian space agency chief boasts nuclear capabilities, claims NATO would lose 'in 30 minutes'
https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-s … ear-claims

Russian nukes could destroy 'enemy' NATO countries in 30 minutes, Putin's crony claims
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-new … y-26905003

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-12 05:18:15

'Russia Will Be Invited To ISS Again When Putin Is Gone': Ex-NASA Astronaut Scott Kelly
https://www.republicworld.com/world-new … eshow.html

The Western space community should put Dmitry Rogozin on “ignore”
https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/05 … on-ignore/

Former NASA Official Says Russian Space Head Is Trapped, Trying to Escape
https://futurism.com/nasa-official-rogozin-trapped

NASA chief says Russia not ending space station partnership
https://www.foxnews.com/science/nasa-ch … artnership

NASA chief: U.S. sees "every reason" Russia will continue work on ISS
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/03/nasa-r … ce-station

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-24 06:52:37

War in Ukraine complicating Russia's space partnerships

https://news.yahoo.com/war-ukraine-comp … 36420.html

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-27 10:35:10

ESA does not anticipate Russian withdrawal from ISS
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/es … 022-05-25/

We had discussion about converting ATV into a CEV on newmars threads
but but Europe has no contingency plan for it though, Russia having another hissy fit perhaps its more likely than people imagine.

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-06-02 06:32:33

Ursa Major announces new engine to replace unavailable Russian-made engines

https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Ursa … s_999.html

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-06-08 06:18:47

Russia says it will operate a German telescope against Germany's wishes

https://interestingengineering.com/russ … -telescope

jointly German and Russian funded.

Colour-coded image of the eROSITA first all-sky survey conducted over a period of six months red: 0.3-0.6 keV, green: 0.6-1 keV, blue 1-2.3 keV.
https://twitter.com/eROSITA_SRG/status/ … 4478657538

eROSITA is an X-ray instrument built by the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics (MPE) in Germany & part of the Russian–German Spektr-RG space observatory, which also carries the Russian telescope ART-XC. It was launched by Roscosmos on 13th day of July 2019 from Baikonur, and deployed in a 6-month halo orbit around the second Lagrange point (L2). It began collecting data in October 2019. Due to the breakdown of institutional cooperation between Germany and Russia after the invasion of Ukraine, the instrument stopped collecting data in February 2022.

https://www.mpe.mpg.de/7856215/news20220303

For optimum performance, the cameras are cooled to −90 °C (−130 °F; 183 K).

Sensitivity range 0.3 - 10 keV & also 6 - 30 keV

it is a Wolter type telescope

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Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-07-04 08:28:34

Russian cosmonauts display flags of occupied Luhansk and Donetsk regions of Ukraine on ISS
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ … ss-ukraine

The show orchestrated for optics to counter the previous headlines of possible support with those yellow and blue colors?

In a message posted to the official Roscosmos Telegram channel, Oleg Artemyev, Denis Matveyev and Sergey Korsakov are shown holding each of the flags of the two occupied territories, which are recognised as legitimate authorities only by Russia and Syria among UN member states.
https://freedomrockradio.co/news/russia … ss-russia/
The cosmonauts also posed onboard the ISS with the flag of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, which is Russia’s other military target in the Donbas. Photograph: Roscosmos

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-07-08 02:05:28

NASA criticizes Russia for using space station to promote invasion of Ukraine

https://spacenews.com/nasa-criticizes-r … f-ukraine/

SpaceNut · 2022-07-09 18:32:12

flexing the Russian brain cells, I see.

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-07-13 11:31:02

Russia threatens ISS European robotic arm after ExoMars termination

https://spacenews.com/russia-threatens- … rmination/

SpaceNut · 2022-07-16 20:04:35

US and Russia agree to swap seats on space station flights

In the spring of 2023, Russia's Andrei Fedyaev and NASA's Loral O’Hara will also be swapping seats. No money will change hands under the agreement, unlike in the past when NASA paid Roscosmos around $56 million a seat.

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-07-26 14:03:35

Russia to pull out of International Space Station
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62308069

Russia says it will withdraw from the International Space Station (ISS) after 2024 and build its own station instead.

The US and Russia, along with other partners, have successfully worked together on the ISS since 1998.

But relations have soured since Russia invaded Ukraine, and Russia previously threatened to quit the project because of Western sanctions against it.

Nasa said it had not yet received any official notice of Russia's intention to withdraw from the programme.
The ISS - a joint project involving five space agencies - has been in orbit around Earth since 1998 and has been used to conduct thousands of scientific experiments.
It is approved to operate until 2024, but the US wants to extend that for six more years with the agreement of all partners.
At a meeting with Russia's President Vladimir Putin, Mr Borisov said Roskosmos would fulfil its obligations to its partners, but the decision had been taken to quit the project after 2024.

"I think that by this time we will start putting together a Russian orbital station," Mr Borisov said, adding that the new station was his agency's top priority.

"Good," replied Mr Putin.

Russia to quit the ISS after 2024 and build its own space station
https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/07/2 … s-own-stat

'This is more official than previous statements. It also provides time to NASA and its international and commercial partners to prepare the US side to fly on its own.'
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/ … 0278122496

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SpaceNut · 2022-07-26 18:56:04

The fact that the cargo commercial and human Dragon are running like clockwork means good riddance to the Russians. If they decide that they want to take the modules, then we have a problem since they were bartered or paid for by the international partners as well.
So, start negotiation for what you want to take and allow for partners to replace them as a starship could lift them to orbit.

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-07-30 07:21:58

When Russia leaves, what's next for the International Space Station?

https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/When … n_999.html

SpaceNut · 2022-07-30 19:12:30

"The fact they said, 'We're going to be committed through 2024' is good," Pace, a former high-ranking government official, told AFP.
It means Moscow isn't planning to pull out sooner, even though what precisely is meant by "after 2024" isn't yet clear.
The year 2024 is what the partners had previously agreed to, though NASA's goal is to keep the ISS in orbit until at least 2030 and then transition to smaller commercial stations.
Since the Space Shuttle was retired, the ISS has relied on Russian propulsion systems for periodic boosts to maintain its orbit, some 250 miles (400 kilometers) above sea level. The US segment is responsible for electricity and life support systems.
The United States has recently taken strides in gaining an independent propulsion system through Northrop Grumman's Cygnus spacecraft, which successfully carried out a re-boost test in late June.
But altitude is only a part of the equation: the other is "attitude," or orientation.
Cygnus "can push, but it can't keep the station pointed in the right direction while it pushes," explained astronomer and space watcher Jonathan McDowell.
The ISS itself can make small attitude adjustments, but if the Russians pulled out, the United States would need a more permanent solution -- perhaps involving the SpaceX Dragon, Northrop Grumman's Cygnus or Orion, said Pace.
Russia has two propulsion systems: progress spaceships that dock to the station and the Zvezda service module. All of the control systems are handled out of Moscow.
It would be helpful if Russia left their segment in place rather than took it with them when they go -- one of the station's two bathrooms are on the Russian side -- observed Pace, but that's another unknown.

So less than 2 years to react but that means making a modified module to fill in for the Russian equipment as what has been tried is insufficient for the job long term.

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-08-06 08:22:30

Op-ed | Sealing the ISS Airlock Behind Putin

https://spacenews.com/op-ed-sealing-the … ind-putin/

SpaceNut · 2022-08-08 22:34:42

Northrop buys trio of SpaceX launches as it upgrades Antares rocket

That means cargo could not be scheduled on an Atlas rocket for the extended cygnus cargo unit as both rockets use Russian engines

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-08-10 04:48:50

US should end ISS collaboration with Russia

https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/US_s … a_999.html

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-08-14 02:59:50

Exclusive-Europe eyes SpaceX to fill launch void left by Russian tensions
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/busines … ns-2876686

The European Space Agency (ESA) has begun preliminary technical discussions with Elon Musk's SpaceX that could lead to the temporary use of its launchers after the Ukraine conflict blocked Western access to Russia's Soyuz rockets.
The private American competitor to Europe's Arianespace has emerged as a key contender to plug a temporary gap alongside Japan and India, but final decisions depend on the still unresolved timetable for Europe's delayed Ariane 6 rocket.

"I would say there are two and a half options that we're discussing. One is SpaceX that is clear. Another one is possibly Japan," ESA Director General Josef Aschbacher told Reuters.
"Japan is waiting for the inaugural flight of its next generation rocket. Another option could be India," he added in an interview.
"SpaceX I would say is the more operational of those and certainly one of the back-up launches we are looking at."

SpaceX Starship 24 Static Fire Testing Begins
https://rumble.com/v1cv3jt-spacex-stars … egins.html

Russia Puts Iranian Satellite Into Orbit
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic … n-concerns

How Vladimir Putin lost the moon for Russia
https://thehill.com/opinion/internation … or-russia/

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