Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

SpaceNut · 2022-05-08 21:34:36

Elon Musk Fears for His Life After Russian Threats

The Security Council expresses deep concern regarding the maintenance of peace and security of Ukraine

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-09 06:38:52

The Meat Grinder Continues?

While young Russian men are exported to die in Ukraine by the thousands Putin speaks at his 'Victory Day' parade on Moscow's Red Square
https://www.bitchute.com/video/115Pg8K9C9Y/
Sky News Australia
'
Putin’s Victory Day speech proves he ‘knows he is losing’
'

May 9 is Victory Day in Russia.
https://www.americanthinker.com/article … ssia_.html
Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine on February 24 in what his military promised him would be a one-week victorious blitzkrieg. Instead, 2½ months later, nothing is going right.

Last edited by Mars_B4_Moon (2022-05-09 06:44:05)

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-10 10:59:05

I have seen more vids on social media feeds, I'm not sure if the footage is real it could be from another date or time but when you see multiple vids from local people at many different angles then something real must be happening and they are losing a lot of tanks.

Their new Tank will be exposed as useless Junk? Lower Horsepower, gets stuck inside mud, can't Reverse, Less Speed, Counter Attack defense Systems Don't Work? Russians had 600 + new T-90s in service but production was then halted

However they might not lost that other Big Ship?
A different Ship was hit or journalists were posting Disinfo?

Journalist Just Spotted Russia’s ‘Admiral Makarov’ Frigate, Intact And At Sea
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2 … nd-at-sea/

it was however spotted sailing on the Russian side of the sea closer to home

Another report says the real ship hit was a different vessel attacked near Snake Island was actually a Serna-class landing craft

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/a … pment.html

a Long Long List of Lost Naval Ships, Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, Helicopters, Tanks....some seem to have been damaged or captured by local farmers, Radar systems Captured, Jammers And Deception Systems taken out, SAMs destroyed or abandoned by Soliders with Low Morale who quit their post or once again Russian Surface to Air Missiles captured by Rebels and Farmers.

'Odessa Left With Apocalyptic Landscape After Russian Air Strikes Destroy City'
https://funker530.com/video/odessa-left … troy-city/

'Drone footage shows a Russian T-90 tank exploding into a massive fireball after taking a direct hit.'
https://funker530.com/video/russian-t-9 … -fireball/

Russian MBT, that appears to be stuck in the mud, being targeted by Ukrainian artillery fire.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/8md2gOTCcgsO/
T-90M
https://gettr.com/post/p18b92sb6af
'Footage of the destruction of the Russian T-90M tank in the area of Stary Saltov, Kharkiv region from the Karl Gustav grenade launcher '
https://twitter.com/BWhiteSwan/status/1 … 0212956162
'Someone actually made a David Attenborough style voiceover for this video of a destroyed Russian tank.'
https://twitter.com/ItsBorys/status/1523664324950036480
' I remember Paris showing this tank. Russia touted it as being indestructible & it would be heading for Ukraine.
[ Their most advanced tank ]. Oh they were proud, even had photo ops. I sure don't recall it smoldering in its debut.'
https://twitter.com/Jasamsdestiny/statu … 9122824192

'Invincible' Russian tank equipped with exploding armour destroyed by Ukrainian troops
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ … destroyed/

Russia debut its T-90M tank 'Breakthrough-3' in combat for the first time during its invasion of Ukraine but analysts are underwhelmed

The T-90M is an updated version of the T-90 and is kitted out with the latest Russian military equipment. Ukrainian soldiers have destroyed hundreds of Russian tanks with shoulder-mounted missiles, including NLAWs supplied by Britain, but the T-90M was supposed to be impregnable because of its exploding armour.
It also carries a self-deploying smokescreen that triggers if it detects that a laser beam has been fired at it, a net across its turret to deflect missiles and "slat armour" on its rear to defend against grenades.

While the Russians had a nice clownshow parade in Moscow, the Ukrainians held their own fireworks blowing up Russia's hyped modernized T-90s to support them?

Most of what Russia puts on the battlefield is getting blasted. The Russian Army initially planned to acquire new 'Armata' Tanks ? between 2015 and 2020. Production and fiscal shortfalls delayed this to maybe three years time in Year 2025 or maybe with Sanctions they will Never Get a Tank? BTR-70 and BMP-2 and BMP 1 seem to be designs from the 60s or 70s, Most of Russians New Tanks seem to be old T-72 given a new paint job?

Does Turkey, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, Egypt, Chile, Bangladesh, Nigeria, Haiti, Iran, Belarus, Kenya, Myanmar, Romania, Cuba, Argentina, Malaysia and India now build better Tanks and Armoured fighting vehicle than Russians?

Very little difference between a T-90 and old Soviet T-72? T-72A got upgraded to T-72B, Tanks Share the same laylout designs, T-72 and T-90 have the same suspension layout with six large evenly spaced roadwheels, the old T-80 from the Chechnya war was a better Tank? They sell and even lesser dumbed down version of the Tank to Algeria, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, India and Venezuela. They all go boom the same?
https://www.newsweek.com/how-do-us-and- … are-965644
'T-90A is not generally considered a world-leader.'

Last edited by Mars_B4_Moon (2022-05-10 11:41:28)

kbd512 · 2022-05-11 09:59:43

In general, there's nothing overly-impressive about the T-72 / T-80 / T-90 series of tanks, apart from the price tag. Relative to western-designed MBTs, eastern-designed MBTs are more affordable in terms of purchase prices for the equipment and spare parts. Fuel consumption is about the same or slightly worse than their western counterparts, ignoring gas turbine powered machines like the M1 Abrams that are an anomaly rather than the norm. The eastern MBTs are not more comfortable for the crew to operate, nor more survivable during an attack.

A T-90 is only a credible threat to lesser vehicles such as APCs / IFVs / trucks, and it's gun is powerful enough to penetrate western MBTs from certain angles at close ranges, but it's not a credible threat when operated by Russians to anything but civilians. They either don't follow their own training doctrine or don't have sufficient infantry to support their tanks. Whenever the opposing infantry are armed with Javelins, then it's not a match for the infantry, either.

If we mounted a pair of Javelin missiles and a 30mm M230 chain gun on a tankette, somewhat smaller than the German Wiesel 1, then Russian MBTs would not be successful. The lighter tankette would have the same or better cross-country mobility and speed, these can be mass-manufactured at low cost, fuel consumption is far less of an issue than any modern MBT or IFV, and they can take out any Russian IFV or APC type vehicle using their 30mm cannon. Mass attacks by these vehicles will quickly blunt or obliterate Russian armored columns. There will be some casualties because tankettes only protect against small arms fire and shell fragments, but the end result is a lot more costly for the Russians than it would be for the Ukrainians.

The western insistence on carrying multiple missile reloads, hundreds of cannon rounds, and including a troop compartment all rolled into the same vehicle / platform only makes sense when fighting a highly competent opponent with similar capabilities. Since that doesn't describe Russia or China, there's no need to spend massive amounts of money on the vehicles themselves when a better plan would be to spend money on the offensive firepower provided by a powerful but lightweight armament that's proven capable of destroying pretty much any vehicle on a modern battlefield. Switching doctrine to using small / light / highly mobile tankettes protected by infantry support will achieve what Russia has failed to achieve with massive armored columns and very little to no infantry support.

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-11 16:51:11

NextGen Light Anti-tank Weapon?

Russian Tank Smoked By NLAW Bursts Into Flames
https://funker530.com/video/russian-tan … to-flames/

'A Ukrainian T-72 obr 1989 tank pulling a captured Russian T-80BV tank.'
https://twitter.com/TimZitter/status/15 … 4817395712

Russian Tank Turret Launched High Into Sky
https://funker530.com/video/russian-tan … -into-sky/

'In this conflict, Russian tanks have demonstrated their susceptibility to secondary blasts after being hit. Unlike the American Abrams tank where the ammunition is stored in an isolated and protected compartment, the Russian tanks have an autoloading system that requires their ammo to be exposed inside the hull of the vehicle, and it has been a recipe for disaster. '

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-12 04:09:17

Russia heading for defeat in Ukraine—former Chinese ambassador
https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin … or-1705615
Chinese Gao Yusheng, a Central Asia specialist who served two years as ambassador to Ukraine between 2005 and 2007, spoke at a closed-door event hosted by the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences think tank, said a report by China's Phoenix News.

Gao Yusheng makes very candid comments on Putin's imperialist war.

Embarrassing comments?

Gao served under Xi Jinping's predecessor, Hu Jintao, and now no longer holds any position of influence in Beijing. His edited remarks were taken down within hours of going live...
Gao's scathing assessment of Russia includes a view that Moscow never truly recognized the independence of other former Soviet states, "and has frequently violated their territoriality and sovereignty."

"The failure of the Russian blitzkrieg and the failure to achieve a quick victory signaled the beginning of the Russian defeat," Gao said in his virtual remarks. He believes Putin's forces can't afford "a high-tech war costing hundreds of millions of dollars a day."

What military and economic advantages it did have over Ukraine have since been offset by Ukrainian resistance and effective aid from the West, Gao assesses.

The "generational difference" in Russia's weapons and military concepts compared to the U.S. and NATO have only made Moscow's disadvantages more pronounced

"This process has been exacerbated by Western economic sanctions which have damaged sectors of the Russian economy," said China's former envoy. "The so-called revival or revitalization of Russia under Putin's leadership is false; it simply does not exist."
Gao sees the next phase of the war as "likely to be more violent and intense," with Russian forces ordered to secure Crimea and the Donbas region in the east, while Ukraine grows increasingly determined to recover all its territory.
"The U.S., NATO and the EU have repeatedly affirmed their determination to defeat Putin," Gao said. "All of this suggests that the war will be fought until Russia is defeated and punished."
The result, Gao predicts, is that the Russian president will fail in his overriding foreign policy objective to maintain the Kremlin's "exclusive sphere of influence" over the former Soviet Union.

SpaceNut · 2022-05-14 17:05:28

The ability to get across a simple bridge seems top be a real problem for the Russians Ukraine began a counteroffensive toward the eastern city of Izyum aimed at disrupting Russian supply lines into the Donbas region

We know that the Ukraine's are good at putting back together broken tanks to make use of them once more against the very enemies that once used them

Ukrainian volunteer fighters use a Russian tank nicknamed 'Bunny' against Russian forces

its missing a track set

There was a recent vote to send more help that failed but Sen. Mitch McConnell, other GOP leaders meet with Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Ukraine
Sens. Susan Collins of Maine, John Cornyn of Texas and John Barrasso of Wyoming.

After months in Europe, American military units sent to bolster NATO forces near the Ukrainian border are coming home.

The military announced on Friday that approximately 10,500 Army soldiers will be leaving stations in Germany, Romania and Poland.
Some of these troops had been deployed to Europe in early February ahead of Russia’s invasion, with thousands more joining once war broke out.The departing units will be replaced with fresh deployments who will pick up the NATO mission.
“These deployments are one-for-one unit replacements, which will leave our overall force posture in the region – approximately 100,000 – unchanged

SpaceNut · 2022-05-18 19:35:49

U.S. Army Could Use New Lend-Lease Act To Speed M1 Abrams Tanks to Poland

would be a good test of Nato building which now has Finland and Sweden wanting to be apart of it.

Ukraine war could cause global food crisis - UN

Really its not the reason for why we are seeing shortages

tahanson43206 · 2022-05-18 20:43:00

For SpaceNut re #233

Your line about what "we" are seeing is understandable, because most of us only think about ourselves.

The people who are in grave danger due to the Ukraine fiasco are the people of Africa and Asia who are dependent upon the wheat from the region.

(th)

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-19 14:50:21

Burning Russian Tank Baited Into Second Ambush
https://funker530.com/video/burning-rus … nd-ambush/
'A Ukrainian Special Operations soldier smokes a Russian T-80 tank with an explosive projectile, damaging the tank. The Russian tank crew identifies the source of the munition and attempts to chase the soldier down and unknowingly drives themselves into a second ambush.'

Japan to take time phasing out Russian oil imports, says PM Kishida
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci … 022-05-08/

New Zealand Announces New Sanctions Against Russia's Alleged Cyber Attacks On Ukraine
https://www.republicworld.com/world-new … eshow.html

Russian troops planted mines in Ukraine's fields to ruin harvest: Sajjan
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/russian-t … -1.5911183

Japan to double Ukraine aid to $600 million
https://japantoday.com/category/politic … 00-million

The Russian invasion of Ukraine made everyone nervous, upending trade patterns for exporting
https://au.news.yahoo.com/russian-invas … 19091.html

Japan bans Russian oil imports despite security concerns
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20220509_18/

Russia says easing Ukraine Black Sea ports blockade dependent on sanctions review
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/russia-says-e … 44120.html

G-7 pledges to tighten sanctions on Russia, unity to support Ukraine
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2022 … ussia.html

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-20 17:34:28

Canada to ban imports of Russian alcohol, names 14 oligarchs in new sanctions

https://globalnews.ca/news/8850928/cana … globalnews

Ukrainians using e-bikes mounted with missiles to blow up Russian tanks

https://news.yahoo.com/ukrainians-e-bik … 21749.html

SpaceNut · 2022-05-20 18:29:33

Ghostly quite and agile to the task of going through the woods...The images look more like an electric motorcycle than a bicycle as there are no direct pedaling involved.

SpaceNut · 2022-05-22 19:55:50

https://news.yahoo.com/militarized-e-bi … 00361.html

Belarusians join war seeking to free Ukraine and themselves

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-23 11:29:30

Russian Tank Convoy gets Decimated by Ukrainian Rebels
https://www.bitchute.com/video/stufzkPg3f8m/

Diplomat to UN from Russia in Geneva resigns over war in Ukraine
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai … 8b6727bf99

A Russian T-72A (obr.1979) tank was captured by the Ukrainian SSO forces recently in the East.
https://twitter.com/TimZitter/status/15 … 4339460096

Ashamed’ Top Russian Diplomat Leaves United Nations Over Putin’s ‘Warmongering’
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ashamed-top- … 40593.html

Starbucks will exit Russia after 15 years, closing 130 licensed cafes
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/23/starbuc … cafes.html

5 countries’ representatives walk out when Russian official speaks in Bangkok
https://thethaiger.com/news/bangkok/5-c … in-bangkok

Life in Russia and Sanctions, major foreign brands and companies flee big Russian stores and Supermarket complex. He says the currency is unstable up and down, and a Swedish-founded, Dutch-headquartered multinational conglomerate 'IKEA' that designs and sells cheap ready-to-assemble furniture has closed, food and books and clothes have increased in prices.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsjDSLgOMMc

Russian T-72 Takes Massive Hit While Attempting To Flee
https://funker530.com/video/russian-t-7 … g-to-flee/

'It's unclear in the footage what type of explosive hit this T-72, but if I were to guess it would be either an Anti-tank guided missile (ATGM), or a Ukrainian operated tank.'

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-25 09:32:40

Biden pressured to lead naval operation against Ukraine blockade to avert famine
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poli … ert-famine
...and lifting Belarusian sanctions for this to work?

Ukrainian's Destroy Russia's Largest Mortar System Tyulpan (FNN 36)
https://funker530.com/video/ukrainians- … an-fnn-36/

Russian losses to date: 206 planes, 1,305 tanks, 112 cruise missiles
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/25/7348388/

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-26 06:07:14

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of wanting to "return to a world order in which strength dictates what is right." "We cannot allow Putin to win this war," he stressed.
https://m.dw.com/en/putin-must-not-win- … a-61938607

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-27 10:31:10

Russian official demands Putin end war, gets escorted out of meeting

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-offici … ng-1710770

Zelenskyy slams Henry Kissinger for emerging 'from the deep past' to suggest Ukraine cede territory to Russia

https://www.businessinsider.com/zelensk … sia-2022-5

SpaceNut · 2022-05-27 13:48:06

If anything Russia should give up land to increase the size of Ukraine and to allow for a border buffer area to be created.

My son was suggesting that it may take a year to allow for the end to come.

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-29 10:34:46

Putin loses TWO more colonels in Ukraine including his ‘best paratroop commander’ as death toll among the high ranks hits 48

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … ander.html

Serbia ignores EU sanctions, secures gas deal with Putin

https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/serb … 7W4NJHI24/

Last edited by Mars_B4_Moon (2022-05-29 10:35:23)

SpaceNut · 2022-06-01 20:05:20

Seems news leaks are indicating Russia wants Poland next....Kremlin TV Names the Country Putin Will Invade Next

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-06-02 05:58:18

'Ukrainians with an abandoned Russian 2S1 Gvozdika howitzer and T-72B3 tank in Zaporizhzhia Oblast.'
https://twitter.com/TimZitter/status/15 … 3165715457

'Nitric Acid Explosion in Severodonetsk, Luhansk Looks Like Bad News'
https://funker530.com/video/nitric-acid … -bad-news/

SpaceNut · 2022-06-02 21:27:20

With enough broken units , you get lucky sometimes that not all are broken in the same way and that you can reuse it to fight the enemy.

Seems we are sending some more short range rockets while news indicates that the Russians are now in control of 1/5 or 20% of the Ukraine areas closest to the sea and borders of Russia.

Quaoar · 2022-06-04 06:27:19

SpaceNut wrote:

Seems news leaks are indicating Russia wants Poland next....Kremlin TV Names the Country Putin Will Invade Next

Putin has no men and no means to invade Poland. And even if he had the invasion of a NATO country would immediately trigger a WW3. So it is very unlikely he will invade western Europe directly, but he is about to trigger a big famine in Africa and it's very likely western Europe will be soon invaded by millions of hungry African migrants. We are in a very dire situation.

Last edited by Quaoar (2022-06-04 06:29:55)

tahanson43206 · 2022-06-04 06:40:42

For Quaoar re #248

Thank you for post #248

It would appear that Mr. Putin could not possibly care less about the loss of human life, in Ukraine, in Russia itself, or anywhere on Earth.

In another topic, Mars_B4_Moon just opened a discussion of personality types that may be worth excluding from a Mars expedition.

It seems to me that Mr. Putin is an extreme example of a personality type that causes injury to the population of the Earth.

(th)

GW Johnson · 2022-06-04 08:12:00

In Putin, you are not dealing with any normal human personality, not even one of the psychopathic types. You are dealing with a clone of Adolf Hitler. There is no rationality, there is only ambition. And a total disregard for others. He will not stop until he is dead. We've seen this before, many times.

GW

New Mars Forums

Announcement

#226 2022-05-08 21:34:36

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#227 2022-05-09 06:38:52

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#228 2022-05-10 10:59:05

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#229 2022-05-11 09:59:43

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#230 2022-05-11 16:51:11

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#231 2022-05-12 04:09:17

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#232 2022-05-14 17:05:28

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#233 2022-05-18 19:35:49

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#234 2022-05-18 20:43:00

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#235 2022-05-19 14:50:21

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#236 2022-05-20 17:34:28

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#237 2022-05-20 18:29:33

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#238 2022-05-22 19:55:50

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#239 2022-05-23 11:29:30

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#240 2022-05-25 09:32:40

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#241 2022-05-26 06:07:14

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#242 2022-05-27 10:31:10

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#243 2022-05-27 13:48:06

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#244 2022-05-29 10:34:46

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#245 2022-06-01 20:05:20

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#246 2022-06-02 05:58:18

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#247 2022-06-02 21:27:20

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#248 2022-06-04 06:27:19

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#249 2022-06-04 06:40:42

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

#250 2022-06-04 08:12:00

Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

Board footer