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SpaceX - Starlink Internet

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/22128 … -space.htm

SpaceX Will Launch the First of Its Global Internet Satellites
https://www.wired.com/story/watch-space … atellites/

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Falcon Heavy may be the most powerful launch vehicle in the world, but its size and capability translate to a meager share of profits SpaceX envisions for Starlink, its space-based internet venture. The company hopes the first two tester satellites, Microsat-2a and Microsat-2b, will be the predecessors to a fleet of thousands of broadband satellites that SpaceX will launch over the next decade.

So, moving from Falcon9 and Falcon Heavy, to BFR, they might have several income streams.

I wonder if Starlink would also be useful for doing a Telepresence on the Moon, as when it is finished there should always be parts of it which might be able to communicate with the near side Moon.

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elderflower

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Re: SpaceX - Starlink Internet

I wonder if the BFR upper stage could be fitted out to capture and return, or to refuel satellites.

louis

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Re: SpaceX - Starlink Internet

Yes, indeed, Musk's multiple income stream approach potentially makes the cost of a Mars Mission (perhaps $2 billion per annum over ten years) look very doable.

Here's everything I am aware of him being involved in:

Tesla Electric cars
Solar power installations (industrial scale and home)
Home battery installations
Cheap industrial scale battery storage
Hyperloop
Tunnel boring (which will work synergetically with hyperloop, electric cars and Mars).
ISS supply
Satellite launches
Orbital satellite internet network
BFR E2E (Earth to Earth) - potentially stealing a huge slice of high end business air travel
Falcon Heavy/BFR lunaror Earth orbital tourism
Surface lunar tourism?
Mars settlement

Potentially you are looking at revenue in the tens of billions, maybe hundreds of billions of dollars per annum.

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/22128 … -space.htm

SpaceX Will Launch the First of Its Global Internet Satellites
https://www.wired.com/story/watch-space … atellites/

Quote:

Falcon Heavy may be the most powerful launch vehicle in the world, but its size and capability translate to a meager share of profits SpaceX envisions for Starlink, its space-based internet venture. The company hopes the first two tester satellites, Microsat-2a and Microsat-2b, will be the predecessors to a fleet of thousands of broadband satellites that SpaceX will launch over the next decade.

So, moving from Falcon9 and Falcon Heavy, to BFR, they might have several income streams.

I wonder if Starlink would also be useful for doing a Telepresence on the Moon, as when it is finished there should always be parts of it which might be able to communicate with the near side Moon.

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SpaceNut

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Re: SpaceX - Starlink Internet

Income stream is from earth and space activity which can make the one that is not as great as the other a subsidy for the one lacking to be able to sustain the forward growth of both.
The starlink for internet, cellphone plus more can be both good and bad to an industry which has its costs being spread to rich and poor. It does speed up daily communications and access to information for good or bad uses.

louis

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Re: SpaceX - Starlink Internet

In terms of the Mars Mission Part of the income is going through Musk's personal bank accounts and part is coming directly to Space X as a company. I think once you factor in the potential for the Mars Mission developing revenue streams from commercial sponsorship, science experiments, Space Agency co-operation and other activities it is readily apparent that money is not the issue: the technical challenge is.

Income stream is from earth and space activity which can make the one that is not as great as the other a subsidy for the one lacking to be able to sustain the forward growth of both.
The starlink for internet, cellphone plus more can be both good and bad to an industry which has its costs being spread to rich and poor. It does speed up daily communications and access to information for good or bad uses.

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tahanson43206

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Re: SpaceX - Starlink Internet

https://www.yahoo.com/news/spacex-betti … 27628.html

Business Insider
SpaceX is betting big on its UK Starlink rollout, and is in talks to become part of the government's $6.9 billion 'Project Gigabit' plan for rural internet
Kate Duffy
Tue, March 23, 2021, 7:48 AM

** Now ** we're talking!

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tahanson43206

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Re: SpaceX - Starlink Internet

https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musks-s … 38857.html

More on UK rollout ...

A source in the satellite industry who spoke to CNBC said that BlueWave's satellite base has up to eight radomes - big, bubble-like domes which cover a radar antenna to protect it from the weather.

The ground station has "an excellent horizon scan because being surrounded by sea, it means there is nothing in the way," the second source told CNBC.

The communications regulator for the Isle of Man confirmed to CNBC on Thursday that Starlink and Bluewave received a license for the "provision of services and location of associated equipment on the island."

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SpaceNut

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Re: SpaceX - Starlink Internet

Not sure of the concern for a monopoly but Amazon has filed an FCC protest against SpaceX's plans for more Starlink internet satellites

Mars_B4_Moon

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Re: SpaceX - Starlink Internet

It can become a political freedom of speech issue in times of war?

SpaceX Starlink Internet Now Live in Ukraine, Says Elon Musk
https://teslanorth.com/2022/02/26/space … elon-musk/

Need a dish about 1/3 of a meter in diameter, and an electric power of about 75-100 watts?

Another interesting debate here
http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=9678
'Teleoperation'

tahanson43206

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Re: SpaceX - Starlink Internet

For Mars_B4_Moon ... this is a follow up to your post #9

You might have some luck if you look for signs Elon Musk might be sending terminal packages to Ukraine.

He can't help much with the 75-100 watts, but on the ** other ** hand, the Ukrainians are proving surprisingly resilient.

This is just a guess on my part, but I'd imagine Elon's tech support folks can block Russian Internet traffic.

The Chinese and other governments have shown the way.

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SpaceNut

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Re: SpaceX - Starlink Internet

You can get a good panel that will provide that energy amount for when the suns out and store what you do not use in a battery pack that can be carried like a suit case with the panels in then to protect them once in transport move mode.
Sounds like a quick and dirty setup to get around the communications issues caused by the invasion.

Mars_B4_Moon

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Re: SpaceX - Starlink Internet

Ukraine asks Musk for Starlink terminals as Russian invasion disrupts broadband

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/202 … broadband/