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They are going to need a bigger ship/rocket?
The South Koreans, they are behind other Space-Powers but as a nation these guys are a very interesting subject when it some to space flight and a possibility for future Un-manned Spacecraft. The first Korean to fly in space was a woman, a space flight professional in what seems to be a semi government semi private purchase to fly to the ISS, Yi So-yeon she stuided BioTech and Physics, Yi was launched into space on board Soyuz TMA-12 with two Russian cosmonauts, I might locate footage later of the experiments done but I believe British American Richard Garriott and NASA's Peggy Whitson may have been on the same ISS crew, I believe audio experiments, acoustic experiments food experiments and a biological experiment with fruit flies was done. Political tensions exist in the region, the tensions remain between South Korea and the North after the Korean War. South Koreans have economic rivals in Japan and China, they continue to have a strong industry with Kia, Samsung Motors, Hyundai, and Daewoo. They have expressed interest in joining or helping NASA's Moon missions. I believe they signed Artemis.
Some news
'Feasibility studies are underway for sending a spacecraft to Apophis, an asteroid that will pass near Earth in 2029.
These space exploration goals were unveiled, along with a set of other plans aimed at bolstering the nation’s space development capabilities'
South Korean leader vows ‘landing on the moon by 2030’ ....( seems to be unmanned Rovers)
https://spacenews.com/south-korean-lead … n-by-2030/
journey toward private-led satellite development
https://spacenews.com/with-cas500-south … velopment/
South Korea Seeks to Move Up Its Spot in Global Space Race
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles … space-raceSouth Korea’s space agency sets sight on missions that ‘won’t pay off until 2050’
https://spacenews.com/south-koreas-spac … ntil-2050/
Korean Air to explore using 747 for rocket launches
https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/ko … 78.article'creating a think tank for space program'
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20210720002700320
develop over 100 mini satellites by 2031
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20210618000626
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I certainly hope they would step forward and throw some substantial money at space. They have it "in the bank."
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For OF1939 ... re #2 but the topic as it relates to Expedition 17
It might take no more than a letter of inquiry from you to the right person in South Korea, to stimulate not only funding for your proposal, but the staff to fill it out.
Leadership (sometimes) consists of asking a human to do something they already want to do.
If there is a reader of this forum, not already a member, who is interested in assisting in this initiative, please contact the NewMars Portal.
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Unfortunately I'm not well at the moment; recovering from a bout with Covid-19. Just released from the hospital last night.
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I think they are a very open Western looking democratic people but the country is not without its ups and downs and booms followed by recessions and political scandals. I know the launch thing and service is getting crowded, there are rockets out there but near space is already getting crowded, there are others in US, Europe and Asia with access to space...however if I understand S.Koreans they don't want to be left behind by the technological and industrial powers of China and Japan.
For people who check news on twitter
These are some twitter accounts follow the rockets and missions, I guess we might see updates here
https://twitter.com/Kor_Spaceflight/sta … 0929006595
rocket stack KSLV-II
RE Oldfart1939 hope all is going well, I believe the world will continue to fight the virus for sometime glad to hear you're doing ok.
This might be official but its in Korean language
https://twitter.com/kari2030/status/1392030354853142530
My Korean is very poor, I might recognize the sound of main Cheong Geyong dialects in the South but it doesn't go much beyond saying hello, asking for food or drink, asking if people speak English and I might still remeber a Thank you Kgam-sam-ham-ni-da however I was there a long time ago I do watch the odd SKorean movie every once in a while so I guess I do recoginize the language and culture. I know there's a Mars Society in China but I did not hear of one in S.Korea maybe I read of a Mars-Asia society or Mars Society South Asia
It's program is making some news headlines
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asi … ellites-6g
South Korea poised to expand space programme with new satellites for 6G communications and national security
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2 … ions-video
South Korea's Space Ambitions
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North Korea-linked hackers accessed South’s rocket developer: spy agency
https://spacenews.com/north-korea-linke … py-agency/
The breach of Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) took place in mid-June and an investigation is underway to determine further details
S. Korea develops heat-resistant material for spacecraft using specially treated carbon fiber
https://www.ajudaily.com/view/20210727135842590
South Korea has developed the world's first core heat resistant material made of lyocell-based carbon fiber that is used for the propulsion system of space launch vehicles or guided weapon systems. The material is created by carrying out a continuous heat treatment process to convert lyocell fibers into carbon fibers. When commercialized, it will reduce South Korea's dependency on foreign products.
Lyocell is a form of rayon, a fiber that can be created by using regenerated cellulose from plant materials such as wood pulp, eucalyptus trees, and bamboo trees. When Lyocell goes through a pyrolysis heat treatment process for biomass without oxygen, it can be converted into carbon fiber. Because the material does not combust during pyrolysis, it is decomposed into charcoal (carbon) and combustible gas. The biomass heat treatment process is also used to extract fuel from waste plastics. The Agency for Defense Development (ADD) controlled by the Defense Ministry said in a statement on July 27 that the agency has developed a lyocell-based carbon fiber that can withstand the heat of more than 3,000 degrees Celsius (5,432 degrees Fahrenheit). The carbon fiber can be used to produce heat-resistant parts of a rocket propulsion device.
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Unfortunately I'm not well at the moment; recovering from a bout with Covid-19. Just released from the hospital last night.
Get better soon and hope that you have none of the lasting effects from having gotten it.
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I was lucky to get the disease treated in the early onset of the symptoms. Only 4 nights in the hospital and with just 2 on oxygen.
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I sure am glad you recovered as well as you have so far, OF39. It's really bad stuff. Get well soon. Hope those near you are OK.
I'm nut sure, but I think the wife and I had it some months before we got the vaccinations. We didn't get very sick sick, but we do seem to have some of the long-haul Covid symptoms. Family doctor agrees; he thinks we had it, too.
Just to let everybody know: wife's surgery was successful, no sign of surprises. I just this afternoon got her home.
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Hi GW-
Pleased to hear the good news of the surgical success for your wife.
I have been very heavy on dietary supplements, vitamin D and Zinc ahead of getting the disease. My overall condition was pretty good beforehand in spite of my 82 years.
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S. Korea's first homegrown space rocket set for launch in Oct. as scheduled
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20210812007700320
More news - South Korea’s Hanwha enlarges space focus with $300 million OneWeb investment
https://spacenews.com/south-koreas-hanw … nvestment/
Spire Global joins Hancom Group for South Korea’s first commercial satellite mission
https://www.geospatialworld.net/news/sp … e-mission/
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South Korea to invest $ 13.6 billion to bolster defenses capabilities in outer space
https://spacenews.com/south-korea-to-in … ter-space/
Samsung has its own AI-designed chip. Soon, others will too
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08 … 1&start=80
Hyundai Mobis to Invest 1.3 tln Won in Hydrogen Fuel-cell Plants
http://koreabizwire.com/hyundai-mobis-t … nts/197216
Korea to invest 1.6 trillion won to develop military satellite technologies
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation … 40.html?fl
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Satrec Initiative aims to build world’s highest-resolution optical satellite
https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20210818000790
South Korea and KAI want to reach the Moon
https://www.aviacionline.com/2021/08/so … -the-moon/
a new book about the development of space to this day and into the far future...
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Zubrin's book?
http://m.blog.yes24.com/reznoa/post/14900353
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"South Korea’s First Lunar Orbiter to be Launched in August Next Year"
http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/art … dxno=75748
South Korea joined the Artemis Accords in May this year. The agreement concluded in 2017 by NASA, the European Space Agency and the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency is to build a lunar gateway by international cooperation. The high-precision camera of the Korea Pathfinder Lunar Orbiter is to collect lunar surface data as a part of the accords.
South Korea has test-fired a ballistic missile (SLBM) from a submarine becoming the first country without nuclear weapons to develop such a capability...I'm not sure if this will be much good for space exploration, I do know the planetary society wanted to once launch a Private Solar Sail mission from a Russian Sub. Probably worried about North Korea, the DPRK politics, the fall of Kabul in Afghanistan and a way to decrease its military dependence on the United States?
https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14435148
Korean Moon Missions?
https://thediplomat.com/2021/09/south-k … r-orbiter/
S.Korean Spaceflight on Twitter: Wet Dress Rehearsal of the KSLV-II is completed! The vehicle is in good condition, and is now ready for flight. A small problem with the launch pad air pressure system is found, but there will be no change of the launch date
https://twitter.com/Kor_Spaceflight/sta … 2330700804
NASA cam on Korean missioon, NASA delivered their ShadowCam imager to South Korea (for KPLO lunar orbiter)
http://shadowcam.sese.asu.edu/posts/1041
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No mention of human space flight manned rocket...
...yet
South Korea seeks $553 million space budget for 2022
https://spacenews.com/south-korea-seeks … -for-2022/
South Korea greenlights Hanwha to utilize lunar resources
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20210909000764
With restrictions lifted, South Korea launches $13B space power scheme
https://www.defensenews.com/space/2021/ … er-scheme/
I wonder if Koreans plan to go commerical like Firefly Aerospace for example which Conducted 1st Test Launch of Alpha Launch Vehicle or maybe they will buy from Space-X or perhaps there is an element of Pride in the own Nation and their own self sufficient Aerospace industry or maybe they want not to miss out on NASA's exploation missions or its a matter of National Security for them?
A US company Spaceflight for example claims will be ferrying payloads from Orbit Fab, GeoJump to lunar orbit next year
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/spa … 15869.html
South Koreans or Republic of Korea was one of the first to Sign Artemis
Targeting first flight on October 21st
https://twitter.com/Kor_Spaceflight/sta … 5298611206
Online social media youtube vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZhHHf3w0-M
vehicle static test.
Animation Video
https://twitter.com/kari2030/status/1436576271853441026
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https://www.planetary.org/space-missions/kplo
Korean Pathfinder Lunar Orbiter (KPLO), South Korea's first Moon mission
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Anyone here speak Korean?
S. Korea said it is to launch homegrown solid-fuel space rocket by 2024, they also say SpaceX to launch Korea’s midsize satellite in 2023.
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https://twitter.com/Kor_Spaceflight
' Some info on future solid motor use'
' - Solid propellant smallsat launcher (2024~)
- KSLV-II third stage + kick motor (2025~, also could be used to launch the Korean moon lander)
- Solid propellant rocket by private space companies (such as Hanhwa Aerospace, TBD) '
If all things go well, the payload will enter into low orbit 600 to 800 kilometers above the Earth
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20211017000210
The launch time, however, can be adjusted due to weather conditions, which could potentially interfere with the launch. The Nuri rocket has a launch window of about a week.
After its launch, the rocket will be tracked and monitored through radar and telemetry antennas from KARI’s tracking stations located in Goheung, Jeju and Palau.
The Naro Space Center in Goheung is equipped with radar that is capable of locating a rocket until it is 3,000 km away from Earth. The space center also has telemetry antennas that can track its trajectory up to an altitude of 2,000 km.
KARI sees a 30 percent chance of the launch succeeding.
Vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxQGb4drejM
The three-stage rocket will be propelled using four 75-ton liquid engines in the first stage, one in the next, and a 7-ton liquid engine in the third.
This would make South Korea only the 7th country in the world to have independently developed such technology.
http://www.arirang.co.kr/News/News_View.asp?nseq=285287
1차 발사 예정일은 10월 21일이며 발사 전 비연소 종합시험(WDR) 이후 해당 결과를 면밀히 분석한 후 9월 말 발사관리위원회에서 1차 발사 가능일을 최종 검토 확정할 예정입니다.
Launch planned on October 21
https://twitter.com/kari2030/status/142 … 25345?s=19
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They have a rocket launched
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/so … me-2258911
The South Korea satellite release was at 700 km they have a rocket. However the full orbital velocity was not achieved, the upper stage and dummy satellite came down? it seems KSLV-II 3rd stage engine shut down after 475s of burn time instead of 521s which was originally planned. However payload sep. & CCAM were performed.
https://spacenews.com/south-koreas-1st- … y-payload/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHmJ3YIKdSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yaMejzSDx0
Nuri (Korean: 누리, meaning "world" ), also known as KSLV-II (Korean Space Launch Vehicle-II), is a three-stage launch vehicle, the second one developed by South Korea and the successor to Naro-1 (KSLV-1).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuri_(rocket)
Nuri is developed by Korea Aerospace Research Institute (KARI)
Four more launches are planned
Nuri will be used in launching several Earth observation satellites, such as KOMPSAT, medium-class satellites and LEO reconnaissance satellites. It is planned to support South Korea's Moon exploration mission to send orbiters and landers. Nuri will be South Korea's first launch vehicle to enter the commercial launch service market. The launch cost is estimated to be around US$30 million, which is cheaper than its Asian counterparts. This will allow for South Korea to provide cheap launch services for Southeast Asia countries.
An improved version of Nuri is expected to launch a Korean lunar lander by 2030.
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Commentary: Russia blowing up its satellites in space endangers us all
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/comment … ry-2325181
Harris says Russia's anti-satellite test was "irresponsible"
https://news.yahoo.com/harris-says-russ … 10479.html
Russia's destructive test of an anti-satellite missile last month that created at least 1,500 pieces of space debris was "irresponsible" Vice President Kamala Harris said
S. Korea voices concern over Russia's anti-satellite missile test
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20211117008000325
Russia conducted the test that destroyed one of its spacecrafts. The test drew criticism, as it generated many pieces of orbital debris that could potentially threaten other countries' satellites.
"We express concerns over the Nov. 15 anti-satellite test and especially over the fact that a large number of orbital debris pieces were generated as a result of the same test," Seoul's foreign ministry said in a text message sent to reporters.
An update on the ASAT, the debris thing and the 'international events'. It was reported Russian telecommunications satellite “Express-80” was already damaged by space debris. This is not the first international event between the world and South Korea and Russia. In Russians had an accident in the 80s where they shot down a civil ariline, Japan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs declassified diplomatic documents 5 years ago which revealed that two months after the catastrophe, a high-ranking official of the U.S. administration confidentially informed Japan's diplomats that the Soviet Union had mistaken the Korean civil passenger aircraft with an American reconnaissance plane. In the 80s a Korean Air Lines Flightfrom New York City to Seoul via Anchorage, was shot down by a Russian Soviet Su-15 interceptor, a Libyan Arab Airlines was also shot down in the 70s as it entered Israeli-controlled airspace over the Sinai Peninsula, the US also mistakenly shot down an airline over the Strait of Hormuz . The Korean Air still flies from New York JFK International Airport to Seoul. However, the flight no longer stops at Anchorage. There was also a recent loss of the Malaysia Airlines Flight flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur shot down over Ukraine duringt the civil war and also a Ukraine aircraft shot down over Iran and an East African Express Airways shot down by Ethiopian Ground Forces it was said the Aircraft was carrying supplies to assist in the coronavirus pandemic. The US Space Surveillance Network reported nearly 20,000 artificial objects in orbit above the Earth, the recent ASAT test puts greater risk to space stations, it has now added even more material to this layer of debris orbiting our Earth.
South Korea’s Hanwha to expand space business portfolio with rocket development
https://spacenews.com/south-koreas-hanw … velopment/
While the rocket will be designed to deliver up to 500 kilograms of payload to low-Earth-orbit, other details, including budget, development timetable and required technologies, remain undecided, Hanwha Aerospace spokesman Danny Oh told SpaceNews.
“What’s decided is that we will develop a satellite launcher,” Oh said. “We are in the beginning step. More details will emerge as the project moves forward.”
Hanwha said it currently focuses its research on conceptual system design, cost-benefit analysis and required technologies as part of efforts to develop a small satellite launcher that is “sustainable and economically competitive.”
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Speaking of South Korea ...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo … hp&pc=U531
When the stadium-sized asteroid 99942 Apophis comes uncomfortably close to Earth on April 13, 2029, a team of South Korean scientists hopes to greet it in space and bring a sample back to Earth.
Apophis is classified as "potentially hazardous" due to its proximity and size. Earlier this year, NASA ruled out the possibility that the asteroid poses any threat of colliding with Earth when it passes closer to us than the ring of large communications satellites in geostationary orbits.
Still, scientists see a rare opportunity to study such a large body and also conduct a planetary defense exercise that will be as close to the real thing as humanity has ever seen.
The Korean plan involves approaching Apophis in January of 2029 before it makes its close pass above us. A spacecraft that would launch from Earth in late 2027 would basically accompany the asteroid as it whips by our planet. The plan is to observe and map Apophis the whole way to look for possible changes in its structure as a result of its close encounter with Earth and our planet's gravitational forces.
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South Korea, Australia sign MOU on space cooperation
https://spacenews.com/south-korea-austr … operation/
Second launch in May 19, 2022 ???
https://newspim.com/news/view/20211025000002
As for their culture of tv, books and comics and games and movies
https://www.firstshowing.net/2021/full- … -the-moon/
They have a new tv show coming out with big movie quality called 'Silent Sea' 고요의 바다 'Goyo-eui bada' while it looks good I'm guessing it will not be for all and unfortunately it is very distopian and horror like and is missing the old optimism of classic scifi movies.
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In answer to the question posed at the start of the thread: Quite possibly. South Korea is one of the world's leading industrial nations, and are probably the leading nation in computer and microelectronics technologies. This puts them in a better position than most other nations in producing deep space probes. In terms of GDP and industrial capability, they are on a par with Germany, so they would have the cash to afford a manned programme if they wanted to. They have a capable nuclear power sector and would therefore be able to produce small nuclear reactors needed for Mars surface propellant production. Through Australia, they now have a launch site.
The only question is whether they have the political will to make space flight a national priority. The same is true for Japan. They have the potential to lead humanity on the way to the Red planet, just as the US could have pushed forward and built moon bases in the 1970s and 80s. But having the potential to do something, doesn't mean they will. A joint Mars colonisation programme between South Korea, Japan and Australia, would probably leave the US and Europe in the dust. And it isn't at all unlikely. Geopolitics is pushing in that direction. Australia is looking to strengthen ties with other Asian partners after its spat with China. Both Japan and Korea view Australia as a strategic ally and source of materials. All three countries are threatened by Chinese expansionist aspirations. Both South Korea and Japan have manufacturing capabilities that would put them ahead of the rest of the world in a technological programme. The entire world is watching SpaceX develop a rocket system that is poised to revolutionise human space flight. Suddenly, things that looked impossible before are looking like they are possible after all. If Musk succeeds in putting a Starship on the red planet, then the sort of space rush that Louis talked about could be on the cards. And a South Korean programme, with Australia and maybe Japan as partners, could be one of the leading contenders.
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"Plan and prepare for every possibility, and you will never act. It is nobler to have courage as we stumble into half the things we fear than to analyse every possible obstacle and begin nothing. Great things are achieved by embracing great dangers."
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NASA picks Intuitive Machines for mission to visit Moon
https://www.space.com/intuitive-machine … deliveries
Payloads by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory, European Space Agency (ESA), the Korea Astronomy and Space Science Institute (KASI) in South Korea.
S. Korea to begin project for solid-fuel space rocket next year
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20211228005800325
Lunar Space Environment Monitor (LUSEM) uses a pair of apertures to detect high-energy particles on the lunar surface. LUSEM will monitor variations in the near-surface space environment when the Moon is inside and outside Earth’s magnetotail – the trailing end of the magnetic fields surrounding our planet, which can serve as a buffer for incoming radiation.
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa … e-delivery
LUSEM is managed by KASI in South Korea.
The only question is whether they have the political will to make space flight a national priority.
They have a high tech home grown industry and from what I know of them they are kind of nationalistic and don't want to be Eclipsed by China or Japan.
Presidential candidate Lee Jae-myung pledges to complete moon landing project by 2030
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20211222003300315
The plans, which were unveiled during a press conference at the DP headquarters, are part of Lee's top seven campaign pledges for the science and technology sector.
"I will turn South Korea into a top 5 global science power alongside the United States, the European Union, China and Japan," the candidate said.The DP previously said it is looking into a pledge to land an unmanned probe on the moon by 2030
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They are going to put money in a 'Space force'
https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20220103000844
S. Korean military launches branch dedicated to enhancing military space power
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S. Korea to make 2nd attempt to launch homegrown space rocket on June 15
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220225003000320
1 month ago
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-econom … raine.html
The Embassy of the Republic of Korea in Ukraine expressed interest in the Ukrainian-Korean cooperation in the field of space exploration and agreed to continue the partnership with the State Space Agency of Ukraine (SSAU).
This was discussed during a meeting between SSAU Head Volodymyr Taftai and the delegation of the Embassy of the Republic of Korea headed by Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Republic of Korea Kim Hyung-Tae, the press service of the Agency reports.
How quick everything changes
Ukraine asks for South Korea cybersecurity aid amid Russia invasion https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-asks- … 41242.html Ukraine envoy calls for South Korea's support, 'massive' sanctions for Russian invasion https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/int … n-invasion
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