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#1 2021-06-17 10:24:16

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Artificial Intelligence AI

For SpaceNut ... I searched for topics whose titles contain "artificial" and "intelligence" and was surprised to find none.

I'd like to start this topic with a column in the social assistance/advice category...

I'm not sure which columnist this was, and for the purposes of this topic it's not important ...

A writer had asked if it was a good idea to say "thank you" to an AI.  Apparently there are some folks who are doing just that.

The columnist reported that the columnist is aware of at least one AI "assistant" which will acknowledge thanks if offered ...

I asked Google, and found a (surprising to me) number of citations on this topic:

whether to thank artificial intelligence

About 49,900,000 results (0.65 seconds)
When you wake Alexa and ask a question or give a command, she will say "OK" and then keep listening for a few seconds for follow-up commands, which do not require the wake word. ... When you are finished, simply say thank you, and Alexa will say, "You're welcome" or "No worries."Mar 14, 2018

Amazon's Alexa gets the ability to listen for multiple commandshttps://www.dallasnews.com › technology › 2018/03/14

Texas has been showing up in (to me surprising) places recently ...

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#2 2021-06-17 18:39:34

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Re: Artificial Intelligence AI

Well I know that there is this one Musk Warns About AI

AI Bussiness opportunity in Snow removal

a sub set or pretty close is Machine intelligence
another sub set is in robotics

search engine can not use a 2 letter to look for is part of the issue

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#3 2021-08-28 19:30:26

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Re: Artificial Intelligence AI

here is another

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#4 2021-11-30 11:26:02

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https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/29/americas … index.html

"The AI didn't program these machines in the way we usually think about writing code. It shaped and sculpted and came up with this Pac-Man shape," Bongard said.
"The shape is, in essence, the program. The shape influences how the xenobots behave to amplify this incredibly surprising process."

The article at the link above is about discovery of a new reproductive technique never before seen.

No genetic manipulation is involved.  These are frog cells right from a frog.

What is new (and different) is the shape that the AI software came up with to maximize reproductive capability.

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#5 2022-01-06 10:57:39

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What if your Moon colony or Mars station got hacked?

Moved from gateway topic

I thought I might add this

NASA's 1st Artemis moon mission will carry Amazon's Alexa
https://www.unilad.co.uk/technology/ama … -the-moon/

I think we all know that scifi movie

HAL-9000:
Instructions confirmed, Dave. It is good to be working with you again. Have I fulfilled the mission objectives properly?

Amazon Bezos linked Alexa told a 10-year-old to plug a charger into electrical outlet
https://sea.mashable.com/tech/18771/ama … cal-outlet
"The challenge is simple," said Alexa. "Plug in a phone charger about halfway into a wall outlet, then touch a penny to the exposed prongs."

Here is an older thread on the AI topic

'Master of AI'
http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2143

I think in general the West culturally has a more negative perception of Intelligent Robotics with movies like Terminator, the wicked actions of puppets in 'Punch and Judy' or the Golem in the Jewish mythology  or stories like Frankenstein, Marvel Avengers Age of Ulton, where culture such as the Japanese and 'Karakuri Ningyo' display Robots or fake intelligence as a positive entertaining helpful thing.

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#6 2022-01-08 14:19:35

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The upcoming uncrewed test flight of the Orion spacecraft will include a payload to see how a voice recognition technology widely available to consumers today could be used to assist astronauts on future missions.
Lockheed Martin announced Jan. 5 that it has been working with Amazon and Cisco on a project called Callisto that will be flown on the Artemis 1 mission launching no earlier than March. Callisto is a demonstration to see how Amazon’s Alexa technology and Cisco’s Webex teleconferencing platform could be used on future crewed missions.
https://spacenews.com/amazons-alexa-to- … artemis-1/
Callisto would allow astronauts to use voice commands to access data, adjust spacecraft controls and interact with teams on the ground. “We want to show that this type of technology can help astronauts with some of those unique human interface technologies, making their jobs simpler, safer, more efficient,” said Rob Chambers, director of commercial civil space strategy at Lockheed Martin, in an interview.

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#7 2022-02-19 19:51:28

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The latest issue of Analog Science Fact and Fiction includes a fact article by Dr John Cramer, on AI.

We (in the NewMars forum) occasionally reveal that our knowledge of Artificial Intelligence is a bit out of date.  This article may help to update our understanding of the field as it exists today. 

It also has a word (or two) of warning about the veracity of output from an artificial neural network.  We have plenty of trouble with veracity of pronouncements by human neural networks.  Now it appears we will have to worry about artificial ones as well.

https://www.analogsf.com/current-issue/ … nate-view/

The piece by Cramer is offered at no charge to the Internet public.

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#8 2022-02-23 19:03:20

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OpenAI Chief Scientist Says Advanced AI May Already Be Conscious

https://futurism.com/the-byte/openai-al … ab-intl-en

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#9 2022-02-24 18:47:50

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For Mars_B4_Moon ....

Thanks for the link to the story about AI at futurism.com ... I'm planning to read it on a modern computer tomorrow.

In the mean time, I'd like to follow up on my report of a Science Fact article about modern AI, published in the latest issue of Analog Science Fact and Fiction. As it happens, the article is open to the public at no charge, at analogsf.com. 

The author is a professor who has written over 100 science articles for Analog, and other publications no doubt.  This article reports on the (to me surprising) discovery that as more and more data is fed into modern neural networks (no human programming is involved) the veracity of the output decreases.  It appears that the mendacity of the open Internet is getting into the "brains" of these advanced systems, contaminating their performance.

The article reports on advanced research projects in the West, and in China.

The bottom line appears to be that as these artificial "brains" gain data, they become less and less able to deliver accurate computations (of numbers) or accurate reflections of reality.

This discovery should be sobering to those who might be hoping AI would manage all the world's woes.

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#10 2022-03-03 14:44:17

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This excerpt from an advertisement seems (to me at least) worth posting because it introduces a concept that is new to me .... hopefully others will find the concept interesting, as a possible hint of how AI technology will unfold ...

<company> (now part of <large parent> invites you to join us at the tinyML Summit 2022 which is taking place at the Hyatt Regency San Francisco Airport Hotel on March 28-30, 2022. Here we will proudly exhibit our ground-breaking AI technology including:

• MAXREFDES178 and Artificial Intelligence Applications
The MAXREFDES178 cube camera reference design (based on the MAX78000 Arm® Cortex® M4F processor with an integrated Convolutional Neural Network accelerator) is a powerful demonstration platform designed to meet the space and power constraints of Artificial Intelligence (AI) applications at the edge. This battery-powered demonstration camera is built in a space-efficient form factor to performs low-power AI inferencing. We will demonstrate how it can be used for face recognition and keyword spotting.

• MAX78000EVKIT
This evaluation kit provides a platform for leveraging the capabilities of the MAX78000 to build next-generation AI devices. Its onboard hardware includes a digital microphone, a gyroscope/ accelerometer, parallel camera module support and a 3.5in touch-enabled colour TFT display. A secondary display, driven by a power accumulator, tracks device power consumption over time.

• MAX78000FTHR
The MAX78000FTHR is a rapid development platform that helps engineers quickly implement ultra-low-power AI solutions using the MAX78000. The board also includes the MAX20303 PMIC for battery and power management. The form factor is 0.9in x 2.6in dual- row header footprint that is compatible with Adafruit Feather Wing peripheral expansion boards. It also includes a variety of peripherals, such as a CMOS VGA image sensor, digital microphone, low-power stereo audio CODEC, 1MB QSPI SRAM, micro-SD card connector, RGB indicator LED, and pushbutton.

We look forward to demonstrating that low-power AI is now a reality, so please register now to take advantage of this great opportunity to discover how you can add AI to your edge-based applications.

AI Robot welders for assembly of Large Ship is an application that comes immediately to mind ... The age of procedural programming may well be coming to an end.

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#11 2022-03-11 08:18:23

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A.I tv voice actors...new startups AI Voice is so believably human, it can be programmed to emotionally manipulate people. Will this be a future vector for misinfo-disinfo campaigns?
https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/17/2293 … flirtation

China Has Pioneered a Law To Empower People Over Algorithms?
https://onezero.medium.com/china-has-pi … c34ff71661

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#12 2022-03-18 07:29:43

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AI computer maker Graphcore unveils 3-D chip, promises 500-trillion-parameter 'ultra-intelligence' machine

https://www.zdnet.com/article/ai-comput … e-machine/

AI Suggests 40,000 New Possible Chemical Weapons In Just Six Hours

https://science.slashdot.org/story/22/0 … s#comments

It took less than six hours for drug-developing AI to invent 40,000 potentially lethal molecules. Researchers put AI normally used to search for helpful drugs into a kind of "bad actor" mode to show how easily it could be abused at a biological arms control conference. All the researchers had to do was tweak their methodology to seek out, rather than weed out toxicity. The AI came up with tens of thousands of new substances, some of which are similar to VX, the most potent nerve agent ever developed. Shaken, they published their findings this month in the journal Nature Machine Intelligence.
The Verge spoke with Fabio Urbina, lead author of the paper, to learn more about the AI. When asked how easy it is for someone to replicate, Urbina said it would be "fairly easy."

OpenAI’s Chief Scientist Claimed AI May Be Conscious — and Kicked Off a Furious Debate
https://towardsdatascience.com/openais- … 338b95194e

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#13 2022-03-19 08:50:49

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Russia's Killer Drone in Ukraine Raises Fears About AI in Warfare

https://www.wired.com/story/ai-drones-russia-ukraine

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#14 2022-03-21 07:00:57

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Do we need some hal-9000 quotes?

DARPA is researching preconscious brain signals to know what someone believes to be true or not
https://sociable.co/government-and-poli … n-signals/

Scientists See What People Picture in Their Mind’s Eye
https://neurosciencenews.com/imaginatio … ave-20212/

What noise does a Blind person see or some person with Aphantasia?

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#15 2022-03-25 09:00:24

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Future AI and Robots that Learn Like Living Things
https://viterbischool.usc.edu/news/2022 … ng-things/

USC Viterbi researchers worked with a DARPA-supported multi-institution team to outline how the machines of the future can achieve lifelong learning, just like humans and other animals.

Killer robots are an existential threat | Mark Slapinski
https://markslapinskitechnology.com/202 … al-threat/

The secret police: Inside the app Minnesota police used to collect data on journalists at protests
https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/0 … ests-data/

A locked-in man has been able to communicate in sentences by thought alone
https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/0 … sentences/

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#16 2022-04-04 10:03:50

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Elon Musk says Tesla's humanoid robot is the most important product it's working on — and could eventually outgrow its car business
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-mu … uct-2022-1

Robot dogs bark out lockdown orders in Shanghai
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/robo … -lgm9mq0qv

Waymo set to launch fully driverless vehicle service in San Francisco
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/waymo … 1647919033

EU’s AI Act ‘contains powers to order AI models destroyed’
https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/01/ai-act-powers/

Canadian robotics company OTTO says its self-driving forklifts have a lower rate of fatal accidents, than forklifts driven by humans
https://www.axios.com/self-driving-fork … ca1d5.html

'Suicide drone' that picks own targets seen in Ukraine in horror AI breakthrough
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/news/k … r-26518751

So much energy, much intelligence, time and money go into the politics of wars, thank Russia for the new imperialism and time and money now into these new killing machines instead of something like building colonies on Mars, Titan, the Moon and other such things we could do.

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#17 2022-04-10 04:33:07

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OpenAI’s DALL-E AI image generator can now edit pictures, too
https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/6/23012 … or-testing

AI Accurately Predicts If – And When – Someone Could Die of Sudden Cardiac Arrest

https://scitechdaily.com/ai-accurately- … ac-arrest/

The team is the first to use neural networks to build a personalized survival assessment for each patient with heart disease. These risk measures provide with high accuracy the chance for a sudden cardiac death over 10 years, and when it’s most likely to happen.

The deep learning technology is called Survival Study of Cardiac Arrhythmia Risk (SSCAR). The name alludes to cardiac scarring caused by heart disease that often results in lethal arrhythmias, and the key to the algorithm’s predictions.

The team used contrast-enhanced cardiac images that visualize scar distribution from hundreds of real patients at Johns Hopkins Hospital with cardiac scarring to train an algorithm to detect patterns and relationships not visible to the naked eye. Current clinical cardiac image analysis extracts only simple scar features like volume and mass, severely underutilizing what’s demonstrated in this work to be critical data.

“The images carry critical information that doctors haven’t been able to access,” said first author Dan Popescu, a former Johns Hopkins doctoral student. “This scarring can be distributed in different ways and it says something about a patient’s chance for survival. There is information hidden in it.”

This AI Can Make an Eerily Accurate Portrait Using Only Your Voice
https://petapixel.com/2022/04/04/this-a … our-voice/

“In some ways, then, the system is a bit like your racist uncle,” writes photographer Thomas Smith. “It feels it can always tell a person’s race or ethnic background based on how they sound — but it’s often wrong.”

Tesla is aiming to start production of its Optimus humanoid robot in 2023 - Electrek

https://electrek.co/2022/04/07/tesla-pr … obot-2023/

Bosses May Soon Become Obsolete: Automated companies, so-called DAOs, will change how we work.

https://antoniomelonio-cosmos.medium.co … 191d15cf13

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#18 2022-04-10 07:02:44

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Lol. Lmao.

I look forward to them releasing the app. See what I'm supposed to look like.


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#19 2022-04-10 15:48:57

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My experience fixing cars is that the term "artificial intelligence" is an oxymoron.  There is no intelligence there.  Not even any reliability. 

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#20 2022-04-10 17:05:19

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#21 2022-04-11 15:16:11

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Ha! I seen this in a news feed but you posted it first

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#22 2022-04-11 17:05:53

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For SpaceNut re #20

In following the story a bit beyond the headline, I picked up two impressions ...

1) The car obeyed the stop order ... how that happened is a mystery to me, so I hope someone follows up.

Just a guess.... perhaps the police sounded their siren? Blinked their lights? Whatever was done was enough to persuade the car to pull over.

2) According to the manufacturer, the car did everything correctly... obviously it does not need lights to "see" it's surroundings.

From this incident, I can imagine the programmers might just set the lights to be on whenever the car is in motion, as a gesture to the community, even though they aren't needed by the vehicle.

3) The article went on to say that the manufacturer has been trying to provide training to the police forces in the test areas, but obviously there was one officer who did not get the word.  There is ** always ** at least one person who does not get the word.

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#23 2022-04-11 21:01:32

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The car used its audio inputs to detect the siren of the cruiser, it used the camera for the flashing blue lights as confirmation of programing input. It then executed looking and slowing to get out of the way of the cruiser which is what the law requires of a human driver. It failed to stay put and drove off which if a human did was a violation of law. This is advanced programming not intelligence...

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#24 2022-04-12 09:17:04

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SpaceNut, your post #23 has the potential to stimulate thought.

Your closing line really caught my eye, and I've been thinking about if for a while.

I understand you have a policy of pooh-poohing artificial intelligence, and I find that to be a worthy position for a human to take.  There's been a lot of hype over many years.

However, in this case, I'm going to toss an observation back your way, to see what you make of it....

What we humans experience inside our heads (skulls to be more exact) is possible because of pre-programmed genetic codes that we inherited.

Our bodies wouldn't function at all except for autonomous functions that we (operating at the supervisory level) cannot control.

The automobile that stopped for a policeman and then left the scene was operating (as nearly as I can tell) at the level of a rabbit or a squirrel.

We (mere observers) have absolutely NO way if knowing if machine learning was included in the diet of the operating system for that vehicle, but even if every movement is planned out by human programmers, I am confident there is NO human alive who understands the totality of that programming.

The net effect of complex programming is to achieve performance beyond the capability of a human or even a group of humans, and that's ** before ** machine learning is introduced.

If Elon's ambitions bear fruit in our lifetimes, we may be able to experience service by an automated system operating at the intelligence level of a dog, or perhaps a horse if a dog level is not achievable.

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#25 2022-04-15 08:30:58

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Swiftly gaining holistic views of space systems with AI

https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Swif … I_999.html

As Lockheed Martin designs and tests spacecraft, massive amounts of data points are created and it's important to review that information to pinpoint any anomalies. That process could be extremely time consuming without the right tools in place, like artificial intelligence (AI) technology

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