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#1 2003-06-12 00:13:35

Echus_Chasma
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Re: Non-technical things durning space flight/on Mars - Entertainment and Miscellaneous stuff

I was doing a bit of thinking about mass and whatever for space-flights and like what to do on the trip over to Mars and I'm wondering, what the hell is there do to on a space trip which takes months?

Would I be able to take a guitar or something along, and what about the normal everyday stuff like shaving/hair cuts and things like that?

There seems to only be talk about the technical side, but what about the non-technical stuff like mundane life.


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#2 2003-06-12 04:25:58

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Re: Non-technical things durning space flight/on Mars - Entertainment and Miscellaneous stuff

The everyday shaving/hair cuts will probably be dealt with the same way they are on the ISS, thats what its there for really -  to give us the necessary experience for us to iron out these small details. Admitedly keeping them busy on the flight will be an ineteresting task, NASA has traditionally been able to keep astronauts busy with either maintenace or scientific study, but i cant imagine the transfer vehicle will take more than 2 crew to run, day to day. Maybe we should look to the navy and how the submarine crews keep themselves entertained, it would probably be a god analogue.

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#3 2003-06-12 09:32:11

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Re: Non-technical things durning space flight/on Mars - Entertainment and Miscellaneous stuff

I was doing a bit of thinking about mass and whatever for space-flights and like what to do on the trip over to Mars and I'm wondering, what the hell is there do to on a space trip which takes months?

Would I be able to take a guitar or something along, and what about the normal everyday stuff like shaving/hair cuts and things like that?

There seems to only be talk about the technical side, but what about the non-technical stuff like mundane life.

*Hi Echus.  Regarding shaving and haircuts, refer to the thread entitled "Toilet Paper" in the "Civilization & Culture" folder. 

There was some rather lively discussion regarding mundane things astronauts can do to fill up their time, months ago.  A little digging around in old folders from 7 to 12 months ago might provide some of what you are looking for.  smile

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#4 2003-06-12 20:07:14

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Re: Non-technical things durning space flight/on Mars - Entertainment and Miscellaneous stuff

One way the Mars voyagers could while away the time would be to download a lot of media like movies, video games, books, etc, from Earth (although they couldn't watch these things in real time of course.)  Anyway, considering that astronauts have already spent six months and more in space, I imagine we should already have solutions to the basic hygiene problems.  I think ultimately though the astronauts will just have to accept that they'll be in jail for about two years and that it's going to be boring.  People who need constant entertainment and are easily bored need not apply.


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#5 2003-06-13 17:24:23

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Re: Non-technical things durning space flight/on Mars - Entertainment and Miscellaneous stuff

Gardening would be a wonderful, time-consuming, interesting pastime ... as well as life-support activity. Assuming a non-spining space vehicle, a dedicated long-duration microgravity horticulture research program like that, could contribute loads of valuable data for future space travel. Take along a variety of seeds, for example, and experiment in collaboration with research establishments back on Earth. Bored? Nonsense--the time would just fly by!

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#6 2003-06-13 22:28:41

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Re: Non-technical things durning space flight/on Mars - Entertainment and Miscellaneous stuff

At one point I read that NASA planned to establish a mass allocation for personal items, such as 20 kilograms or 30 kilograms, for flights to a space station. I have no idea whether that was ever implemented. But I assume there would be a similar mass allocation for flights to Mars, allowing a guitar, family photos, etc. On the Apollo flights to the moon, Alan Shepherd brought a golf ball and a head he could attach to something to drive the ball!

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#7 2003-06-25 10:21:19

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Re: Non-technical things durning space flight/on Mars - Entertainment and Miscellaneous stuff

Hi,

First post here.  I don't know how much computer storage they will have, but assuming that the answer is "an awful lot", there's plenty of things they could have then: books, movies, music, video games, educational material - they could learn new languages, learn about biology, physics, math, etc, and polish / maintain the skills they already have.

They would probably have to spend a couple hours a day or more exercising.

Finally, and I'm sure it's been addressed before, depending on the mix of crew, you could have some level of romantic life, especially if the crew is made of married couple.

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#8 2003-06-26 21:15:39

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Re: Non-technical things durning space flight/on Mars - Entertainment and Miscellaneous stuff

This post reminds me of what the POVRay guys did with regards to the ISS.

http://www.povray.org/posters/


Some useful links while MER are active. [url=http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html]Offical site[/url] [url=http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Web.html]NASA TV[/url] [url=http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/]JPL MER2004[/url] [url=http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/statustextonly.html]Text feed[/url]
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#9 2003-06-28 02:52:42

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Re: Non-technical things durning space flight/on Mars - Entertainment and Miscellaneous stuff

I demand artificial gravity so there would be no need for exercise (well, not excessive amounts of it anyway).

But a good strategic board game could keep me busy for months. The young generation would probably just bring a PC and a heap of computer games.
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#10 2003-06-28 13:47:23

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Re: Non-technical things durning space flight/on Mars - Entertainment and Miscellaneous stuff

But a good strategic board game could keep me busy for months. The young generation would probably just bring a PC and a heap of computer games.
smile

I'll challenge you to a game of Risk.  :laugh:


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#11 2003-07-03 09:26:54

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Re: Non-technical things durning space flight/on Mars - Entertainment and Miscellaneous stuff

If the ship could be spun to create artifical gravity (something like 2001) then the exersize problem is solved. . .they could do reasearch, hobbies or chat.  it could be possible they would do some quotum of maintiance to keep everything ship shape. . .  I do agree they will be playing a lot of board games but I worry what happens if they get too competive.  Well I for one hope they do a lot of writing in a journal (one personal, one public) so that I could find out what they think.  I hope they never, ever set up the ship like a reality show. . .that would be terrible and awful.  Besides, if they did, it would not sell because reality TV thrives on conflict, and everything is done to prevent conflict in the crew in space.


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