The Real Mars

Tmcom · 2019-10-25 20:33:15

jorgear wrote:

NASA continues lying https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/ob … the-1970s/

Yes, they have been lying since Roswell, or the late 1950's, or they wanted to land near Mars pyramids, then got spooked, and landed in a dull area, (but as l have shown on this thread, they also landed near a green area, or plant life).

And the oven experiment could have been easily faked, so why the big deal, when mars is close to us, it obviously has a blue atmosphere and green areas, which means it very likely has similarities with earth.

Common sense, right, but not in our brainwashed for life, obvious evidence isn't evidence if l don't want it to be, gang.

And if mars is earthlike then it could have intelligent life on it, which opens the door to new, clean energy systems, and our oil profits going into the sewer, (the key reason for all of this suppression, brainwashing the herd, that are up to mentally disturbed levels at present).

So it seems that 70% believe in this sort of stuff, (if they see good evidence) and 30% are clinically insane, and no amount of evidence will ever be enough.

At least until they have no choice, or in 13 years!

Tmcom · 2019-10-26 02:18:41

A sunshower on mars today.

Left shows some recent water runoff, and right shows the sky, with some rain bearing clouds.

And this one shows the sun setting over a green landscape and a single water drop on one of the rovers wheels.

jorgear · 2019-10-26 03:46:56

We will have to await two more years until astronauts land on Mars in 2035 https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/nasa-aims … s-by-2035/

jorgear · 2019-10-26 03:51:34

Thanks for the info, Tmcom. Really interesting what you tell. Sooner or later they will even have to recognise that Mars' surface is full of radioactive substances, what will make life on the surface impossible. That is another point to take into account.

Tmcom · 2019-10-26 06:51:49

jorgear wrote:

We will have to await two more years until astronauts land on Mars in 2035 https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/nasa-aims … s-by-2035/
Thanks for the info, Tmcom. Really interesting what you tell. Sooner or later they will even have to recognise that Mars' surface is full of radioactive substances, what will make life on the surface impossible. That is another point to take into account.

Yee's, but l was talking about NASA doing mars on the cheap and quick side, or just circling mars, and landing on one of its moons, (its moons are low gravity) with the monolith. HD images of that with, most likely encryption hieroglyphs, on one of its side's, (l RV'ed that, or most likely a sun god depiction) will blow the lid on this entire stickin coverup.

I expect that a few years later, the truth about mars, will surface, then getting to mars will be easy and reasonably quick after that, (no more billions and rockets).

Every time l Remote View, the future the year 2033, stands out, like something huge is going to happen, and l have also RV, the year 2050, or the same shopping centre area, with grays walking among us, and no one cared.

Our world of old will be turned on its head, as will the stubbornly, stupid, and suppressed systems that are buried now, will get us out of the dark ages, (which we are presently in) and into the light.

jorgear · 2019-10-27 04:17:32

This image of Google Mars shows everything that happened on Mars in the long past. How is it possible, if NASA recognises that Mars had a very dense atmosphere, that those craters were formed on the surface of one of Mars' faces? How is it possible that no craters on the north part of the planet? Because the big ocean existed in the north of the planet. Impossible that craters be formed into the water of the ocean. This image reveals the catastrophe of Mars after Maldek's destruction, those craters were formed by the impacts of the remains of Maldek. Even Mars's rotation axe was changed after the cataclysm.

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louis · 2019-10-27 07:00:18

Don't think it's true to say that it's "Impossible that craters be formed into the water of the ocean. " Here's an example from Earth:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burckle_Crater

Also it's important to note that the Northern Ocean on Mars was never very deep, unlike oceans on Earth so I expect more incoming meteorites would create undersea craters.

Lastly, at some point the ocean and (most of the) atmosphere disappeared and meteorites would have continued arriving, which must explain some of the craters in the North.

jorgear wrote:

This image of Google Mars shows everything that happened on Mars in the long past. How is it possible, if NASA recognises that Mars had a very dense atmosphere, that those craters were formed on the surface of one of Mars' faces? How is it possible that no craters on the north part of the planet? Because the big ocean existed in the north of the planet. Impossible that craters be formed into the water of the ocean. This image reveals the catastrophe of Mars after Maldek's destruction, those craters were formed by the impacts of the remains of Maldek. Even Mars's rotation axe was changed after the cataclysm.

http://laguerrademarte.mex.tl/imagesnew … bardeo.png

Tmcom · 2019-10-28 03:57:49

jorgear wrote:

This image of Google Mars shows everything that happened on Mars in the long past. How is it possible, if NASA recognises that Mars had a very dense atmosphere, that those craters were formed on the surface of one of Mars' faces? How is it possible that no craters on the north part of the planet? Because the big ocean existed in the north of the planet. Impossible that craters be formed into the water of the ocean. This image reveals the catastrophe of Mars after Maldek's destruction, those craters were formed by the impacts of the remains of Maldek. Even Mars's rotation axe was changed after the cataclysm.

http://laguerrademarte.mex.tl/imagesnew … bardeo.png

Thanks, good supportive evidence.

jorgear · 2019-10-28 04:03:00

louis wrote:

Don't think it's true to say that it's "Impossible that craters be formed into the water of the ocean. " Here's an example from Earth:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burckle_Crater
Also it's important to note that the Northern Ocean on Mars was never very deep, unlike oceans on Earth so I expect more incoming meteorites would create undersea craters.
Lastly, at some point the ocean and (most of the) atmosphere disappeared and meteorites would have continued arriving, which must explain some of the craters in the North.

jorgear wrote:
This image of Google Mars shows everything that happened on Mars in the long past. How is it possible, if NASA recognises that Mars had a very dense atmosphere, that those craters were formed on the surface of one of Mars' faces? How is it possible that no craters on the north part of the planet? Because the big ocean existed in the north of the planet. Impossible that craters be formed into the water of the ocean. This image reveals the catastrophe of Mars after Maldek's destruction, those craters were formed by the impacts of the remains of Maldek. Even Mars's rotation axe was changed after the cataclysm.

http://laguerrademarte.mex.tl/imagesnew … bardeo.png

Of course after the catastrophe, lots of meteorites have been able to fall on the surface on Mars and on the wide area of the oceans... even more if Mars has a very weak atmosphere and has no protection to avoid the fall of all sizes of asteroids. Of course they may be smaller than those fragments of Maldek that correspond to the craters seen on that image.

Yes, it is known that the oceans of Mars were not so deep. But the rivers had 2 kms wide, wider than those of the Earth.

tahanson43206 · 2019-10-28 07:23:56

For tmcom ... my apologies for intruding on the topic here ...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lessons-15-r … 40692.html

While I sympathize with the creative nature of the topic under your leadership, I am hoping you will be willing to allow Steve Squires a chance to contribute.

Dr. Squires just took a position with Blue Origin, as Chief Scientist.

The key quote from the article above is that Dr. Squires does not think Mars is suitable for permanent life by humans (as it exists now).

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SpaceNut · 2019-10-28 17:27:08

The age of mars crators and just how many there are as Mars Surface Scarred by 635,000 Big Impact Craters at least 0.6 miles (1 kilometer) wide, a new study reports with just 200 or so impact craters on Earth.

The age of Mars
They are believed to have formed prior to 3.8 billion years ago. The more sparsely cratered northern plains are younger, since they have fewer and smaller craters, having formed after the end of the great bombardment.

FAQ - Radioactive Age-Dating

For the others, one can only use relative age dating (such as counting craters) in order to estimate the age of the surface and the history of the surface. The biggest assumption is that, to first order, the number of asteroids and comets hitting the Earth and the Moon was the same as for Mercury, Venus, and Mars.

Crater counting is a method for estimating the age of a planet's surface. The method is based ... The method has been calibrated using the ages obtained by radiometric dating of samples returned from the Moon by the Luna and Apollo missions. It has been used to estimate the age of areas on Mars.

Tmcom · 2019-10-28 19:57:00

tahanson43206 wrote:

For tmcom ... my apologies for intruding on the topic here ...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/lessons-15-r … 40692.html
While I sympathize with the creative nature of the topic under your leadership, I am hoping you will be willing to allow Steve Squires a chance to contribute.
Dr. Squires just took a position with Blue Origin, as Chief Scientist.
The key quote from the article above is that Dr. Squires does not think Mars is suitable for permanent life by humans (as it exists now).
(th)

Sure, l will let you post, (this is an open forum) but he is wrong, (predominantly CO2, atmosphere, and minus 80 at night is nonsense). I have shown overwhelming evidence that mars has vegetation, and very likely fern type plants, so minus 2 at night or a typical night on earths desert areas is closer to the truth, as is an atmosphere with around 18% oxygen, or similar to earths, (also found overwhelming evidence that mars has life on it now.

And mars also has rain or rain clouds, or water drops don't appear on the rover by themselves.

Best to go to post one, to get up to speed.

Tmcom · 2019-10-28 20:13:22

Also a note to everyone discussing this elsewhere or similar subjects, is that some who deny all of my and others findings, may be clinically insane, and no matter how good the evidence will refuse to see it.

I had such an runin recently, or presented obvious evidence that is wasn't true, and had more and more insane remarks given, to the point that they convinced me that they needed to see a psychiatrist immediately.

I have blocked them or him, as their insanity was affecting my health, but suffice to say, some skeptics are insane and no amount of evidence will sway them.

I keep making the mistake that evidence equals truth, but for some evidence equals digging in and creating insane rebuttals.

I won't mention the forum, but it isn't the one where l use a winking smiley on, when posting here.

I have learned that human stupidity is infinate, and getting into a conversation with these types, does nothing except making them angry and giving them an opportunity to show how insane they are while maintaining their point of view.

Or in other words don't engage an idiot, forget, walk away, ignore or block are the only courses of action.

SpaceNut · 2019-10-28 20:20:29

NASA Mars Photo Shows 'Absolute Proof' Of Ancient City On Red Planet?

Tmcom · 2019-10-28 20:29:43

SpaceNut wrote:

NASA Mars Photo Shows 'Absolute Proof' Of Ancient City On Red Planet?

Thanks Spacenut, but the video won't play, so hopefully you could find the image, that would be great.

SpaceNut · 2019-10-28 21:11:01

NASA Archive Photo Reveals Alien City On Mars

Tmcom · 2019-10-28 22:02:40

SpaceNut wrote:

NASA Archive Photo Reveals Alien City On Mars
https://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtime … 3/mars.jpg

Thanks, the video played in this link, and yes, he is onto something, some is conjecture and some dismissed, but some, phew, l will look into it and post my findings here.

Tmcom · 2019-10-29 21:28:22

First obvious structure, second maybe, third, a shiny object with a group of plants or tree's, or this could be a body of water, last, seriously looks like a group of tree's with someone or something pulling them up around this area.

A lot like what farmers do on earth.

Looks like lettering, with two "s" or "5" standing out, next from the top, a giant pipe sticking out of this dam, which appears to be almost full, (and from the edges there is a lot of sand around this, or most likely it is salt).

More good traces of ancient dwellings, and this, which, l believe is a depiction of a hound Dog, (the eyes and nose are clearly visible as are the ears, with possibly another face further down. Probably a dog food factory.

And this which may be ancient, but with the factory is probably recent or current, or the reason l was going with ancient is the walkway, (arrow) is broken, but it could be under construction, but very unlikely this is natural.

Last a giant retaining wall, and most likely more water.

jorgear · 2019-11-03 15:27:27

The city of ATLANTIS on Mars

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Source of the image: https://www.uahirise.org/ESP_019103_1460

Tmcom · 2019-11-03 20:39:04

jorgear wrote:

The city of ATLANTIS on Mars
http://laguerrademarte.mex.tl/imagesnew … ouTube.png
Source of the image: https://www.uahirise.org/ESP_019103_1460

Probably an ancient remains of a town or city, but l wouldn't say Mars Atlantis.

And the hounddog factory is actually supported by 4 huge legs, rather like what our Eiffel tower has, and some giant dome below it, which would have to be at least 10 or more storys high, to see it from orbit.

Unlikely, even if it is supported directly underneath, that a giant steel framework could support the equivalent of a 2 or more story building and the dog sculpture on top for half a million years.

This has to be a recent or current structure, showing that Mars has a civilization and shares a lot of the animal and plant life we have.

Tmcom · 2019-11-04 04:15:15

Not much with the rover, so l tried Insight.

First image didn't have any BS red/orange filter for a change, and apart from showing a bright sun setting, or no blue everything, it probably also shows a rain cloud passing by, well the link going to the animation probably does.

https://mars.nasa.gov/resources/22441/i … te=insight

And the rest show the probe in the ground and the right hand image clearly showing the setting sun, as does the shadows, and yet again, no blue sun, or landscape.

Looks like NASA is softening up.

PS this site also has some wind sounds, wind with no atmosphere, lol.

SpaceNut · 2019-11-04 17:07:53

What is also funny is the siezmic unit is also seeing the disturbance as well from air that we can not seem to use a parachute in if its normal size. It was also meantion that the plasma shield is not erroding when the suns win speeds pick up.

Tmcom · 2019-11-04 20:39:07

SpaceNut wrote:

What is also funny is the siezmic unit is also seeing the disturbance as well from air that we can not seem to use a parachute in if its normal size. It was also meantion that the plasma shield is not erroding when the suns win speeds pick up.

Agreed, the Viking probes used several parachutes, to land in the 70's, which should require massive parachutes if the atmosphere is so thin?

I might do a comparison to see just how much oxygen and supposedly high levels of CO2, is needed for a landing of such probes.

Tmcom · 2019-11-08 04:22:08

Pretty cool finds today, but as usual worst to best...

First this martian tree, sculpture with moss, or all three, but either way, with the CP showing a strong green it is a plant.

The second truly has some weird stuff.

Bottom images show tracks, or what looks like animal tracks up the top and bird ones further down, (there is also a lot of distortion near the lower object, or NASA blurred it to hide something.

And top image truly weird, or it looks like a giant upturned flour shovel, plouring along the martian surface? With the things on the left, being beats me.

The large thing may also be a structure with fluffy tree's in front.

And now my favorite one, or one of the key reasons l keep doing this, to get a glimpse of the real mars.

TOp, left, overcast sky, left, more sculpture/trees, and lower down this cool one.

Mars rover, blue thing in the middle, left a tall plant or prickle, (CP shows strong grass green at its base, so it a a plant, and the rover ignores it, lol). Other ones more plants or prickles growing out of the rocks, with a blue mountain in the background.

Right a lot more blurrier or darker or probably being drenched.

Top with the red arrow, l would love to say, martian sculpture, but it is a reflection, (the rover is the mouth).

NASA paints Mars as a dead rock, reality paints Mars, as the second Earth like planet in our solar system, or back yard, lol.

Tmcom · 2019-11-09 03:30:49

Ok, tried distortion correcting the previous image, with three distinctive tree's appearing, (well, NASA colored two in).

The tree on the left is the most obvious.

And some of the landscape is misted or whitened out, which is either mist or rain, (probably mist, since the sun is setting.

But the tree does not seem to be a tall prickle, so this could be the first good example of a martian tree, or maybe pine tree.

PS l also looked into Viking but it also had rockets when landing, so not a good example of atmosphered drag, or lack theiroff.

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