Advice to parents on school options

kbd512 · 2019-06-15 18:40:04

Louis,

It sends the message that we're all human and we're all petty about certain things, whether we think we are or not. There are no "enlightened" people amongst us and there never have been. However, there are some ideas that are better than others.

We have Democrats here who are insistent that their ideology is "right think" and that any other opinion is "wrong think". I'm one of the few dissenters here voicing a different point of view. Thankfully, those who run this forum still believe in some measure of freedom of speech.

The Democrats in our country want to transform America into another communist hell hole because someone didn't hand them everything they think they should have handed to them for free. Some of us very much oppose such ideas. Unfortunately, these people think they're going to "prove" to the rest of us that they're "right", even if they have to kill all of us to do it. That is always what true democracy / mob rule / socialism / communism devolves into, but these people think they're so "special" or "enlightened" that such a thing could never happen here.

Why do they think that?

Their arrogance knows no boundaries. They know what they believe and that's all they're interested in. Anything that disagrees with their ideology is studiously ignored, even if the result is killing millions of people. They're very creative, but not very conscientious. It's a recurring problem with creative types. Their infatuation with their idea supersedes all logic regarding the utility of the idea.

SpaceNut · 2019-06-15 19:27:50

The last time you visited the website it tracks what has appeared not that they are important by others with the session cookie so they show new posts being made.

Which says that space news is slow if all you see is these rather than complain about politics find space news to post about so we can talk about something new in it.

As for Bernie he is a no vote for actually that reason kbd512....oh just like last time also....

kbd512 · 2019-06-15 19:35:47

SpaceNut,

How do we design a website that only shows Louis what he wants to see?

Bernie received 13.2 million to Hillary's 16.9 million votes. I apologize if that doesn't inspire confidence that people claiming to be Democrats don't want to make America a communist / socialist country, especially when they keep teaching this nonsense in schools.

SpaceNut · 2019-06-15 19:59:37

The links for all are session related:

posted meaning topics that you have posted within,
new a new posting since last visit,
active with postings in the last 24 hr clock
and no response pretty much discriptive...

Not sure if any others are possible from the script library for the php install for the forum but can look...

SpaceNut · 2019-07-03 18:22:38

First steps taken but many more must follow Chicago Police Arrest 170, Seize 38 Illegal Guns In Pre-Holiday Crackdowns

three crackdowns were timed in part to get top-level gang members off the streets, it was important to “take them out of play” for as long as possible.

SpaceNut · 2019-08-03 16:59:15

Bad day in a Walmart that was 'at capacity' when shooting took place Official says at least 15 dead in El Paso attack El Paso shooting: Multiple people have been killed, a city official says

Many have reacted to this senselessness...

Beto O'Rourke reacts to El Paso shooting

'God be with you all': Trump pledges full support for El Paso shooting victims as lawmakers also grieve

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi – once again – called for an end to mass shootings.
"Our hearts ache for the families of those who were killed & the injured," she tweeted. "Action must be taken to finally #EndGunViolence."

Has there been any reason for the gun man indicated to doing this.....

SpaceNut · 2019-08-04 07:50:54

RobertDyck wrote:

Saw this on Facebook. I posted something similar before, but there was a mass shooting in El Paso today.

SpaceNut · 2019-08-04 07:52:42

kbd512 wrote:

Robert,
Mexico has about double the number of homicides per year as in the US and Brazil has nearly quadruple our homicide rate. Mexico set a record in 2018 regarding the number of homicide investigations opened by La Policia, at 33,341, as did Brazil at 63,800. Meanwhile, back in gun-happy America our homicide rates continue to decline and amounted to about 1/3rd of Brazil's homicide by firearm rate- in a country with more guns than people. Maybe the Mexicans and Brazilians just hack each other apart down there with machetes instead of shooting each other, but even I know that's a bunch of BS. In regressive ideology, I guess being cut up into little pieces and dangled off a highway overpass is preferable to being shot. That said, counting was never a strong suit of our regressives.
NPR Opinion: Brazil's High Murder Rate Could Get Even Worse If Gun Laws Are Relaxed by Robert Muggah
Many pro-gun arguments rely on sensationalist anecdotes rather than scientific facts. The truth is that robust firearm laws, when enforced, can help deny access to guns to people who should not have them.
Many people who aren't completely brain dead morons realize that people claiming to be "progressives" or "Democrats" have no intention of ever enforcing the laws, seeing as how they're generally the first to ignore the laws whenever it's politically convenient. The evidence would be all those bodies you see piling up in regressive Democrat-run cities, both here in America and abroad.
The debate today is not whether or not there ought to be rules to regulate firearms, but rather how comprehensive they should be. This is the minimum to ask of citizens who, ultimately, have the privilege — and not the right — to own firearms.
No, dingbat, firearms ownership is not a privilege in America. Nice try, though. If it is, then freedom of speech is also a privilege. Here in America, our regressives have tried and gloriously failed to regulate both out of existence.
Brazil already registers among the highest per-capita homicide rates in the world and features the largest absolute number of gun deaths on the planet.
No derp, Sir Derps-a-lot. And yet, they also have some of the most stringent "gun control" laws on the planet. How did that work out? Oh right, we already know the answer to that since you told us. If it's a crime to have a gun, then only the criminals will have guns. Surprise! Not.

SpaceNut · 2019-08-04 08:22:08

There is a difference between crime murder counts and mass muders or in this case what we are calling terrorism these days.

Texas Elpaso dead count is still rising and rests At least 20 in the shopping center shooting

George P. Bush denounces 'white terrorism' after El Paso shooting

This is a first in Trump condemns 'hateful act' in El Paso

2020 Dems call for action after El Paso shooting

So how will McConnell block any legislation passed from the house that might even lessen these events from happening?

Dust has even settled and in Dayton, Ohio Shooting: Nine dead, 26 injured; suspected gunman killed, police say

kbd512 · 2019-08-04 13:19:39

SpaceNut,

A criminal commits a crime and Democrats want to use their power to punish everyone else who did not commit a crime, merely because they own a gun. In places where they were successful at doing that, like Chicago for example, the murder rate skyrocketed to levels above the active combat zones that the US participated in, such as Iraq and Afghanistan. It's pretty easy to understand why, if you can table your ideology for just long enough to do some critical thinking. After establishing the entire city as a "gun free zone", the Democrats never did a thing to enforce the "gun free zones" that they created. Some sort of magic was supposed to happen after they made a declaration, wherein criminals were obligated to start following the laws against murder. Once again, the "evidence" for that would be all those bodies piling up in cities like Chicago. That's why their legislation is being blocked.

The gun that the criminal used didn't walk itself into Walmart and shoot all those poor people, yet somehow the gun gets blamed for human behavior, as if it was the only device capable of mass murder or that mass murder was even a significant problem, except in the minds of ideologically motivated people who want to disarm everyone to commit future acts of mass murder against them. The one and only reason that one person with a gun is particularly effective at mass murder is when everyone else who follows the law leaves their gun at home and the Police don't provide effective armed security for the locale in question. When you walk into a Walmart, even here in Texas, you'll see a sign posted that carries the force of law that forbids patrons from entering with their firearms. The criminals don't care about the sign- never did and never will, the law abiding gun owners know and obey the law, and thereafter it's only a matter of time before the law abiding are the ones who get slaughtered. For some sick reason, regressive Democrats absolutely love establishing safe havens for criminals so those criminals can prey upon their victims without fear of reprisals. Either that, or we have abject morons elected to political office who think signs are magic totems that cause criminals, people who definitionally do not follow the law, to start acting like decent human beings.

A young man with a twisted ideology did something horrible and that's a real shame. Whether he did it with a gun or a truck or a poison or an explosive device makes no difference to the dead people because they're still just as dead, either way. Since this evil clown didn't save us the trouble and kill himself when he was done murdering people, the Great State and Citizens of Texas will do that for him. Here in Texas, when it's painfully obvious that someone possesses no redeeming qualities, we put them in the ground along with all the people they've murdered. While that can't bring back the murder victims, it does ensure that that particular criminal will never kill again. That's another part of the justice system that our criminal-loving Democrats routinely try to overturn, with the predictable result that more murder will ensue if the criminal in question has another opportunity to kill again. Killing the murderer ensures that that will not happen again. We don't care if it deters other people from murdering or not, since we already know that it can't and won't, but we do know that it reduces the population of criminals who commit heinous crimes in the State of Texas. The more murderers we execute, the fewer murders that will occur. The number will never be zero because we don't live in airy fairy fantasy land.

kbd512 · 2019-08-04 13:37:53

Everyone Else,

Regarding "safety" from the following link that SpaceNut posted in Post #159:

Dayton, Ohio shooting: Gunman's sister among nine killed by Connor Betts

From the article:

DAYTON, Ohio – A lone gunman in body armor opened fire early Sunday in a "very safe" entertainment district, killing at least nine people and igniting chaos in the crowded outdoor area before he was fatally shot by police seconds later, authorities said.

What does a "very safe" entertainment district actually mean?

Is it one where everyone there who follows the law is completely unarmed and a perfect target for a mass murdering lunatic?

If it was "very safe", then 9 people wouldn't have been murdered there, would they?

Regressive Democrat media personalities don't have the mental capacity to differentiate between what goes on in their mind and the objective world outside of their minds.

The concept of "safety" is a 100% human brain-created belief / thought construct that never was, never is, and never will be applicable to any situation that exists in the objective world, or what the rest of us call "real life". Safety can never exist anywhere else outside of your brain. People who claim to be capable of higher logic and reasoning or to have the best interests of others in mind when they make laws would accept this without question and prepare themselves for the possibility of running into a murdering lunatic. Those who can't accept that, better known as Democrats, make laws that create more environments where mass murderers can murder with impunity.

In the real objective world, we have a handful of destructive murdering lunatics. The vast overwhelming majority of people are not murdering lunatics, but that doesn't have any bearing on how destructive a single murdering lunatic can be when nobody is there to stop that lunatic. Those who cannot accept reality will bitterly cling to their fantasy notion of "safety" and demand more victim disarmament, which in turn will create more murder victims at the hands of murdering lunatics, who definitionally do not care at all about whether or not you're capable of defending yourself from their criminal assault or not.

GW Johnson · 2019-08-04 15:19:48

Kbd512:

What you say about not abdicating your personal safety to the government is quite true, and I quite agree with you about that. That is why I keep recommending that we adequately defend our gun-free zones the way we did in the mid-to-late 19th century. Undefended gun-free zones are sitting-duck targets for crazies and terrorists, no one can argue that point. Yet there are perfectly good reasons to have some gun-free zones, such as free exchange of ideas in a classroom, for but one of many examples.

I would remind you that for every evil you attribute to Democrats, there are corresponding evils attributable to Republicans. That is why I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican, but a fierce inveterate independent. I don't believe in either party's agenda. And so far, I have found the third parties even less credible. Party agendas make terrible public policy. That is why debate and compromise are so crucially important. The founding fathers knew that, which is why it is emphasized so much in their writings.

As for murdering lunatics, we have always had them, and we always will. In a society that is disarmed, you see fewer of their effects, that is true. That is not a society I care to live in, because such are rarely actually free. In our society, we are still free, so far at least, traceable directly to a sufficient fraction of our population being armed. That implied threat of armed revolution is the ONLY thing between us and dictatorship, as the writers of the Second Amendment knew so well.

The guns are already out there, and no law is going to change that. What I would recommend is that gun proficiency and gun safety be required courses taught in every grade from 4th grade to graduation, and demonstrated performance be a requirement for graduation, leading to far more concealed-carry permits than now, and more deservedly so. There would be a lot fewer accidental shootings if we did things that way.

Actually the same thing applies to driver's education and training. For the same reasons. What we have now is piss-poor at best, and it was that way 50+ years ago when I graduated high school. Kinda shows, don't it?

I have noticed something in the last 2-3 years about mass shooters. They are no longer nearly all crazies who were not denied access to guns. Now there seems to be an increasing percentage of right-wing extremists who become domestic terrorists at a very young age. This is quite the new phenomenon (racist terrorism is not, dating back before the founding of the country). I am as yet unsure as to what we might do about this. But it threatens us all.

GW

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kbd512 · 2019-08-04 16:35:08

GW,

The problem with "properly defending" gun free zones is that at least 50% of the people in society would need to be Police Officers. If we knew when and where a crazy person would show up to act out their lunacy, then sure, we'd just have someone waiting right there for them to take them away to the funny farm. Unfortunately, we don't have anything like that. We have people who are equally crazy, just not nearly as violent, who believe in the human brain fantasy construct called "safety". Much like that "god" concept that they lambast at every opportunity, they're equally guilty of believing in non-existent things that they can't throw in a bucket. Why? Because they want to believe in it, all evidence to the contrary, and it really is that simple.

100% agree that ideological agenda nearly always translates into bad public policy, but the overwhelming majority of people subscribe lock, stock, and barrel to ideological agendas. Some are less destructive than others, which is why I will choose to support the less destructive public policy agendas. In this country, as it presently is, having an armed citizenry is far less destructive than having a disarmed citizenry. If human nature changed or politicians (of any party or ideology) were elected who actually devoted the resources required to enforce the laws, then I would change my opinion about owning a gun. Since I've seen less than zero evidence of that, I'll keep my guns and people who disagree can go pound sand.

If it were up to me and I could concoct a firearms education and training policy that would deny firearms to those unqualified to use them, for whatever reason, or simply a policy that wouldn't get me shot by my own side for violating their rights, then I would implement that and the number of needless deaths would go down. Unfortunately, our regressive leftists constantly make false equivalency arguments about this issue. We don't license people to exercise their freedom of speech, either. When we go down that road, this country is finished.

I have to simultaneously contend with clowns like Sir Derps-a-lot, who despite having a PhD, isn't smart enough to figure out that he literally outlined the failure of his ideologically motivated beliefs in blood red ink in the very article he tried to use to justify the obscene numbers of murders caused by victim disarmament / strict gun control. You'll have to forgive me if I think that someone who is supposedly so intelligent, but can't figure out that his ideation about the way the world works isn't congruent with the objective world, might just be an evil clown advocating for more mass murder. I don't care about his inability to deal with reality, only the results.

Regarding the right-wing extremists, what do the new numbers amount to? 10 people now out of a country of 400 million instead of 2 or 3 before? Problem? Sure. All murder is a problem. Racially-motivated murdering isn't a new problem at all, as you correctly noted. The Democrats were and still are trying to racially divide America, ever since my fellow Republicans took their slaves away from them. They refuse to stop and it's at least 50% of what they talk about lately. Our media cretins have an unhealthy fascination with destroying our Republic through the politics of division, merely because we won't allow them to own slaves. I actually think our media is hoping to start another civil war. If that's not exactly what they're trying to do, then it has a scarily opposite effect of what they claim they want.

Anyway, radical leftist regressive criminals like Bill Ayers were blowing up people with mail bombs in the 1960's. Ayers is just another pathetic geriatric regressive socialist nutter now, much like Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, but he expressed no remorse about his murderous activities whatsoever and said he wished he'd committed more murders. If criminals like him get invited to the White House to spew their screed to fellow regressives, them I'm not overly concerned about this latest batch of murderers. Last but not least, all the right-wing racists in this country haven't even managed to kill a significant fraction of the people killed by the 9/11 hijackers. However, if this is what left-wing extremists in America want to focus on, then so be it. Like I said before, they love destruction and can't get enough of it.

As far as what realistic actions we could take to counter the right-wing extremists, identifying and monitoring their activities would be a good start. All the radical left-wing extremists who were busy spying on our President and lying their sorry rear ends off about their reasons for doing it could've been gainfully employed monitoring people who were real threats to American citizens. Instead, they were more enamored with living out their ideology, to the detriment of everyone else in our society. Anyway, you already noted what happens when ideology overtakes reason.

SpaceNut · 2019-08-04 18:05:23

Here we go again putting labels on whom is using them wrongly and those that free we need to protect ourselves with them versus those that feel we do not need them if the cops do there jobs...

Residents of Star Creek neighborhood are surprised the 21-year-old suspect in El Paso Walmart shooting was from their upscale Dallas suburb I guess they did not really know the gentleman after all..

Who is the El Paso shooter? Investigators search for links, motive in anti-immigrant screed

Attack highlights challenge of pursuing Domestic extremists

In the wake of two more hate-fueled mass shootings, when do we call it domestic terrorism?

SpaceNut · 2019-08-04 18:45:58

'racist' rhetoric seems to being called out as Beto O'Rourke says Trump's rhetoric in part to blame for El Paso mass shooting

James Comey to Donald Trump after shootings: 'You owe us more than condolences sent via Twitter'

They are not the only words being said about the shooting as Mexico vows to take legal action against U.S. after deadly El Paso shooting

It appears that we do have hero's just not enough of them when we need them most... An off-duty soldier is being hailed as a hero after he saved the lives of several children during Saturday’s mass shooting at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas. Army PFC Glendon Oakley Jr., a 22-year-old automated logistical specialist assigned stationed at Fort Bliss,

well done sir, well done...

Motive for the Dayton shooting Suspect, nine victims killed in shooting in Dayton, including sister Megan Betts, 22 The gunman was armed with .223-caliber "assault-style" rifle and had body armor and extra magazines capable of firing up to 100 rounds.

kbd512 · 2019-08-04 19:27:43

Do we really need to participate in the intersectionality politics special olympics that the Democrats trade in so heavily, in order to condemn cold-blooded murder?

If white people murder other white people, or black people murder other black people, do we not all still agree that it's still a major problem?

Democrats Are One Hundred Percent Wrong about Racism

The Article:

To say that the Democrats are obsessed with race these days is the equivalent of saying the sky is blue.
I'm a racist. You're a racist. Donald Trump's a racist. Nancy Pelosi was a racist until she attacked Trump for racism. Your neighbor's a racist. Your insurance broker's a racist. Your dentist's a racist as well as your periodontist. All white males are racist. Some white females are racists, especially those married to white males. Everywhere a racist.
Never mind that many of those people have no history of racism. It doesn't matter. Never mind that their families came here in 1923 to flee the Armenian Holocaust or mass starvation in Ukraine, they owe reparations for slavery. It's all about racism—yours.
The Dems' presidential campaigns are based around proving the other man or woman is more of a racist and vice versa, or about showing you're not so racist as people say you are, even if you are or even if you pretended to be a race you weren't. And don't you dare criticize Ilhan Omar or you're a triple-racist even if her ideas are more racist than anyone else's. Got it?
And above all, and never forget this because it is of paramount importance—otherwise we should all check ourselves into those concentration camps on the border and subsist on toilet water—what this country needs most of all is a CONVERSATION ABOUT RACE.
WRONG! (I would have put ten exclamation points but it would have seemed vulgar.)
It's exactly the opposite. There is only one way at this point to end or diminish racism and that is to shut up about it. Otherwise, what you really want, whether you admit it or not, is to perpetuate racism for your own advantage—like Al Sharpton (and many others, obviously, some of whom want desperately to be in the White House).
But don't believe me. Believe Morgan Freeman. Let's roll back to the Early Paleolithic Age (2005), when the great black actor was on 60 Minutes with Mike Wallace:
MIKE WALLACE, CBS`s "60 MINUTES": Black History Month, you find...
MORGAN FREEMAN, ACTOR: Ridiculous.
WALLACE: Why?
FREEMAN: You`re going to relegate my history to a month?
WALLACE: Come on.
FREEMAN: What do you do with yours? Which month is White History Month? Come on, tell me.
WALLACE: I'm Jewish.
FREEMAN: OK. Which month is Jewish History Month?
WALLACE: There isn`t one.
FREEMAN: Why not? Do you want one?
WALLACE: No, no.
FREEMAN: I don`t either. I don`t want a Black History Month. Black history is American history.
WALLACE: How are we going to get rid of racism until...?
FREEMAN: Stop talking about it. I'm going to stop calling you a white man. And I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. You're not going to say, "I know this white guy named Mike Wallace." Hear what I'm saying?
Stop talking about it. Interesting idea, isn't it? I doubt Cory Booker would approve. "The Squad" would doubtless go apoplectic. Nevertheless, it's the only way to end racism—stop talking about it. We already have laws against it, for a long time now, as we should. And they should be strictly enforced. But the rest of the blah-blah has got to go. It only makes people hate each other. It creates racism rather than solves it.
Unfortunately, not long after the sane comments by Mr. Freeman, Barack Obama was elected and what seemed at first to be the end or diminishment of racism went the other way. The scab kept being picked, by Eric Holder and Obama himself. They couldn't let go of it. Soon enough, Morgan Freeman walked back what he said under the sadness of peer pressure.
And now we are where we are—in the land of AOC and Omar—every one of us racists until we die. The revolution eats its own.
Roger L. Simon — co-founder and CEO emeritus of PJMedia — was a civil rights worker in the sixties (something of which he is proud). He was also a donor to the Black Panther Party in the seventies (something of which he is not).

Hey, Democrats. Just like the ideology held by the racists, your incessant stoking of racial tension also absolutely sucks. That's why we relegated racism to the trash bin of history. Some people still haven't received the message, but we're not going back to the way it was. It's over. Period. Try your best to move on with the rest of your lives.

GW Johnson · 2019-08-05 11:48:43

Responding to kbd512's post 163 above "The problem with "properly defending" gun free zones is that at least 50% of the people in society would need to be Police Officers."

That's not the experience of the 19th century frontier towns. These would be population a few hundred, with a sheriff and a deputy or two. That's closer to 1% "police officers" than 50%.

These were towns a few blocks long along the one main street, and of little dimension transverse to it. The sound of a disturbance could bring the sheriff and/or deputy at a dogtrot to the scene in 60 seconds. And that fast response, plus being at least as well armed as the problem, is how this worked.

It worked quite well to declare the saloon vicinity a gun-free zone. It was convenient and secure to check your guns at the sheriff's office when you entered town, and to retrieve them there when you left.

It's a lot harder to do this today. You need a lot of substations to achieve the 60 second response time, and the officers need to be armed with better than revolvers, simple rifles, and shotguns. We're talking several hundred officers at several dozen substations in towns of several hundred thousand. Still nearer 1-2% than 50%.

Nobody wants to pay for the extra men and substations, that's the real problem. And it is why people are dying as sitting ducks in undefended gun free zones.

Nothing hard to understand about that.

GW

PS -- last night I had call to use one of my guns. Angry rattlesnake. Self defense does not always involve other humans. In fact, it rarely does (never at all so far for me). But then, I live way out in the country.

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kbd512 · 2019-08-05 15:39:48

GW,

If they adequately defended their "gun free zones", I wouldn't really care. It's blatantly obvious that they're not and all those bodies would be the evidence of that, as if we needed more. Can you name off a single example where a "gun free zone" hasn't been proven, with multiple dead bodies, to be nothing of the sort? If not, then my point stands. I'm not going to die waiting for the Police to fail to fulfill some regressive Democrat fantasy land idea where there are no evil people and nothing can ever hurt you. Criminals don't obey the laws and that includes laws about what weapons they can or can't have. Nothing but little kid thinking is going on there, not adult thinking. It's why they keep losing this issue. Logic is most definitely not on their side here. Until little kid thinking ends and practical solutions take root, I see no reason to budge an inch on this issue.

According to the news media, more than 50 people were shot in Chicago over the weekend. Very little mention of those mass shooting victims in the news, but they're still just as dead as the people who were murdered in El Paso and Dayton. I don't give a rat's rear end about what they were doing at the time they were shot, what color their skin happened to be, who shot who over what, or even why they shot each other. It happens every weekend in Chicago, a model of liberal regressive Democrat "gun control", because Democrats pay lip service to enforcing the laws. There aren't any Republicans in Chicago. Chicago hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1931, Republicans don't hold any state offices in Illinois, and only a handful of seats in the legislature. So yes, this is 100% the fault of the Democrats.

I've met one old timer from HPD who carried a revolver. I'm not aware of any department in the country that presently issues revolvers to its officers. The rest have semi-automatic handguns and carbines. The SWAT team has fully automatic weapons, armored vehicles, and helicopters. Every so often, half the department (OK, 20 cruisers or so, the SWAT team, and a helicopter) shows up on our street to arrest someone from the apartment complex across the street. Put another way, they have plenty of manpower and firepower if they decide to use it. The only problem seems to be the response time. It takes awhile and their local substation isn't that far from here.

RobertDyck · 2019-08-05 15:43:30

In Canada, very few people own a handgun. To own a handgun you have to get a Possession and Acquisition Licence (PAL). This has to be renewed every 5 years. To get one you must have passed a Canadian Firearms Safety Course. When transporting a firearm it must be unloaded, and have a trigger lock, and stored in a sturdy non-transparent container (gun case), and obtain authorization to transport (call a special phone# for RCMP, Canada's federal police). If you leave it in a vehicle unattended, the gun must be in a locked trunk or similar locked compartment.
RCMP: Storing, Transporting and Displaying Firearms

You can't use the handgun for self defence. It's for target shooting at a registered gun range only. Effectively only police are armed.

Wikipedia: Winnipeg Police Service

The service has 1442 officers of which approximately half are on the front lines, known as "general patrol" (uniform operations). The WPS also has over 510 civilian workers.

Census Canada: Census Profile, 2016 Census: Winnipeg, City, Manitoba and Canada
Total population: 705,244

What proportion of the population are police officers?

So far in 2019, all of Canada has had one mass shooting, and it was an individual who shot 4 family members in their home. The United States has had 249.

SpaceNut · 2019-08-05 18:38:28

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/citie … li=BBnbcA1

Which indicates just how many are registered plus not so much.
Many areticles say that they are mentally ill which happens to be the say excuse given for the living in poverty and homeless so what would an IQ test reveal here is they really are not low in value.

There are an estimated 393.3 million civilian-held firearms in the United States -- or about 121 for every 100 American citizens, the highest gun ownership rate of anywhere in the world.

10 states are given for homicides versus suicide numbers

https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-owners-pe … ns-3325153

There's no way to get a precise account of gun ownership in the United States on a state-by-state basis. That's due in large part to lack of national standards for licensing and registering firearms, which is left to the states and their varying degrees of regulation.
According to the Washington Post, there are more than 350 million guns in the U.S. That figure comes from a 2015 analysis of data from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF). But other sources say there are far fewer guns in the U.S., perhaps 245 million or even 207 million.

problem to be addressed so at least we know where the legal guns are....

The article goes on to give a table / Rank / State / # of guns per capita / # of guns registered

Not what I had expected for where the violence has been

SpaceNut · 2019-08-06 21:18:29

Disney fires back at company selling Avengers and princess-themed bulletproof backpacks Only in America would ot be more important for copy right use of images for something that might save a childs life if they had one...

The Walt Disney Co. said the Houston-based manufacturer of the “Ballistic Shield,” bulletproof backpacks by Tuffypacks, needs to “stop using our characters or our other intellectual property” to sell the product. according to the Hollywood Reporter in a piece published Tuesday.

why not make a deal that for the use of the image that a donation is made for current victims....

tahanson43206 · 2019-08-06 22:14:15

For SpaceNut re #171 ....

My understanding is that Trademark law is quite strict ... if you register a trademark with the government, you have to defend it, or you lose it.

Your suggestion of licensing a trademark is a good one, but (I believe) the deal has to be struck BEFORE the product is placed on sale.

This gives the trademark owner the opportunity to decide it they want to be associated with a given application.

The need to defend trademarks often leads to (what appear to be) ridiculous situations.

(th)

RobertDyck · 2019-08-06 22:37:22

Looked up the backpacks: TuffyPacks
The insert is rated IIIA.

Wikipedia: Performance standards:

Type I: .22 LR, .380 ACP
Type IIA: 9×19mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP
Type II: 9mm +P, .357 Magnum
Type IIIA: .357 SIG, .44 Magnum, 10mm Auto, 7H21
Type III: Rifles, 7H31, Lehigh .45-70, 5.7x28mm SS190, including the ubiquitous AK-47 round
Type IV: Armor Piercing Rifle, including .30-06 Springfield M2 armor-piercing (AP) bullets

First, sending your child to school with a bulletproof anything is ridiculous! However, is this even useful? If the backpack has a hard insert that's supposed to be bulletproof, shouldn't that stop an AK-47 round? That means type III, so type IIIA is not quite good enough.

Terraformer · 2019-08-07 02:32:53

Aren't most school shootings done with handguns? I don't know if America's ever had a mass shooter who used an AK-47.

RobertDyck · 2019-08-07 05:11:20

Ok, let's see...

Columbine (1999): Harris had a Hi-Point 995 Carbine with thirteen 10-round magazines and a Savage-Springfield 67H pump-action shotgun. Klebold used a 9×19mm Intratec TEC-9 semi-automatic handgun with one 52-, one 32-, and one 28-round magazine and a Stevens 311D double-barreled shotgun. Harris's shotgun was sawed-off to around 26 inches (0.66 m) and Klebold shortened his shotgun's length to 23 inches (0.58 m), a felony under the National Firearms Act.

Virginia Tech (2007): Glock 19 pistol, Walther P22 pistol
Sandy Hook (2012): Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle, Glock 20SF handgun
Parkland, Florida (2018): AR-15 style semi-automatic rifle (Smith & Wesson M&P15 Sport II)
Santa Fe (2018): 12-gauge Remington 870 shotgun, Rossi .38-caliber snub-nosed revolver, Explosives, Molotov cocktail
Roseburg, Oregon (2015): Semi-automatic pistols (Smith & Wesson M99; Taurus PT24/7; Hi-Point CF-380; Glock 19), Revolver (S&W M642-2), Semi-automatic rifle (Del-Ton DTI-15; not used)
Red Lake (2005): Semi-automatic pistols (Glock 23 and Ruger MK II), Shotgun (Remington 870)

I could go on, there are too many. These are all the school shootings with 10 or more fatalities. There were also...

Stockton, California (1989): Norinco Type 56 AKM-type semi-automatic rifle (Chinese copy of AK-47), Taurus PT92 pistol, Arson fire
John McDonogh High School, New Orleans (2003): AK-47, semi-automatic pistol. Two men shot and killed one student, shooting him at least 20 times.

The following are not schools...

Las Vegas shooting (2017) was not a school. He had an arsenal of 24 weapons: 14 .223-caliber AR-15-type rifles, 8 .308-caliber AR-10-type rifles, .308-caliber Ruger American bolt-action rifle, .38-caliber Smith & Wesson Model 342 AirLite TI revolver

El Paso (last Saturday): AK-47-style assault rifle and extra magazines
Dayton, Ohio (last Sunday): AR-15 style pistol using .223 Remington with a 100-round drum magazine

I guess I was thinking of Stockton.

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