The Real Mars

Tmcom · 2019-07-20 03:27:30

More damp soil and raindrops today, but first...

The first shows NASA's orange filter everything lie, and the second what Mars really looks like, and Viking before NASA's spooked officers got at em.

And this, top, showing damp sand, middle image showing water droplets, (pure water droplets from passing rain clouds) bottom, more of the same.

Obviously the rover went through a recent light shower, but not sufficient enough for the sand to cling to the rovers wheels.

And unfortunately NASA has updated its site, so finding these images is much harder now, with a good chance of me missing some, since the frickin site keeps going back to the top of the search results, when tracking back from downloading a new image.

And their click here to download button is garbage.

Probably getting nervous that people like me are finding too much, if they want to keep the herd happily chewing their cud til the big announcement.

Or over 14 years away.

And l have just started with Sol 603 image set, mast cam, (probably have to type that in twice on NASA crappy new site).

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Tmcom · 2019-07-22 04:24:41

First, just to show how bad JPL technicians fiddling with true color is getting.

Second, this looks like the sort of thing, we would see in a TY video, with commentary and a good 10 minutes of analysis, but it is the rovers reflection only, although the background reflection of green things and a strong blue mountain range behind that is more compelling.

Next, what l believe to be another martian prickle, (CP shows traces of green). Left NASA one, Right my one after correcting their nonsense.

Here is some more, left theirs, right my one or the real version.

Clearly they are trying to fiddle with these to make them look like dustdevils, but the green CP patches and the fact that the one on the right has roots, dismisses this idea overall.

Tmcom · 2019-07-27 03:42:25

Been slim pickings as of late, but l did find this one.

Looks like a distant house? Two story's, with a door, windows or the martian equivalent of a mansion.

The bottom half is reflective, but the top, makes no sense at all if this was a distant reflective rock only.

I have been trying to convince myself that the dark is just the sky, but other rocks in the area, do not show a very dark, blue sky?

So this is leaning more towards an martian, two story mansion, but made of shiny, silver type material, with the roof a darker color.

louis · 2019-07-27 08:59:40

Very interesting Tm...

Wonder what it could be?

Did remind me somewhat of this find:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptEJK0urHEw

Perhaps you should send a link to Joe White at Art Alien TV - he's pretty good at enhancing images, using various photo-analysis tricks.

Tmcom wrote:

Been slim pickings as of late, but l did find this one.
https://i.imgur.com/1RD7L73.jpg
Looks like a distant house? Two story's, with a door, windows or the martian equivalent of a mansion.
The bottom half is reflective, but the top, makes no sense at all if this was a distant reflective rock only.
I have been trying to convince myself that the dark is just the sky, but other rocks in the area, do not show a very dark, blue sky?
So this is leaning more towards an martian, two story mansion, but made of shiny, silver type material, with the roof a darker color.

SpaceNut · 2019-07-27 19:09:31

love the rover images in post 801 just showing how beat up it is....

Tmcom · 2019-07-28 07:35:26

louis wrote:

Very interesting Tm...
Wonder what it could be?
Did remind me somewhat of this find:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptEJK0urHEw
Perhaps you should send a link to Joe White at Art Alien TV - he's pretty good at enhancing images, using various photo-analysis tricks.
Tmcom wrote:
Been slim pickings as of late, but l did find this one.
https://i.imgur.com/1RD7L73.jpg
Looks like a distant house? Two story's, with a door, windows or the martian equivalent of a mansion.
The bottom half is reflective, but the top, makes no sense at all if this was a distant reflective rock only.
I have been trying to convince myself that the dark is just the sky, but other rocks in the area, do not show a very dark, blue sky?
So this is leaning more towards an martian, two story mansion, but made of shiny, silver type material, with the roof a darker color.

Yees, but l am pretty sure l have access to the same tools as he does on Photoshop, so l can run it past some filters, (already used contrast/brightness, not available on Current and cs2 clouds versions). I will run it past some more to see if anything shows up.

SpaceNut wrote:

love the rover images in post 801 just showing how beat up it is....

Lol, yes if l am not mistaken it has been there for 5 years or so.

Tmcom · 2019-07-29 03:49:55

Ok, revisited the house today, that is probably a reflection of some kind, (have seen similar dark blues in other rocks) but still.... and the usual.

Top, left, what looks like a snail trail, but since it appeared and disappeared, probably a giant worm.

Top, left, martian sunset, next one down, looks like a crumbling still door, but l believe that it is reflecting the rover back to us, although the shadow just doesn't fit in with that idea?

Next on the left, martian or probably human footsteps, which is no surprize since Mars is earthlike, we would already have a base there, and probably clean the rovers lenzes from time to time.

Last two, martian plants of prickles dotted the landscape.

And now the mansion. Ran every filter l had, and the last one, or inverse, gives us a clue as to what this is, which l suspect is a rock reflecting the blue hillside back to us. Can't win e'm all.

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Tmcom · 2019-07-31 03:17:18

More plants or maybe fungus.

louis · 2019-07-31 05:54:18

Yes, definitely could be some type of fungus or ground-anchored organism. It is odd, if not impossible, to have such projections (and it sure looks like an angled projection owing to the shadow shape below) out of the ground on a surface which is supposedly dead, not subject to earthquakes or other violent weather events but which has been weathered for hundreds of millions of years by wind.

It would be great to get a close look at these objects (there have been many with that palish pigmentation).

Tmcom wrote:

More plants or maybe fungus.
https://i.imgur.com/aC3nww4.jpg

Tmcom · 2019-07-31 10:26:02

louis wrote:

Yes, definitely could be some type of fungus or ground-anchored organism. It is odd, if not impossible, to have such projections (and it sure looks like an angled projection owing to the shadow shape below) out of the ground on a surface which is supposedly dead, not subject to earthquakes or other violent weather events but which has been weathered for hundreds of millions of years by wind.
It would be great to get a close look at these objects (there have been many with that palish pigmentation).

Tmcom wrote:
More plants or maybe fungus.
https://i.imgur.com/aC3nww4.jpg

True, the lower part is a ref, rock showing the setting sun, behind the rover, (square blob), but the shadow and possibly the white things growing out of the rock, (top part) show that there is something that is most likely organic in nature.

I doubt that we will get a closer look, but who knows.

Tmcom · 2019-07-31 10:46:07

Did a quick search, but there are only a few for Sol 603 for ground based images, but...

I did find this, or a real look at a Martian sunset. No blue anywhere, apart from the sky, and a yellow sun, with clouds catching the fading sunlight, the all blue sunsets are another lie, one of many.

louis · 2019-07-31 15:36:26

Fungal growth on Mars...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku9X7_cUzns

Certainly, on the face of it, a more reasonable explanation than that rocks on Mars (but not on Earth) look remarkably like mushrooms.

Tmcom · 2019-07-31 21:55:52

louis wrote:

Fungal growth on Mars...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku9X7_cUzns
Certainly, on the face of it, a more reasonable explanation than that rocks on Mars (but not on Earth) look remarkably like mushrooms.

Yes, nice one, and l like her or NASA's see spot run explanation, "we are committed to finding life in the solar system" well, close enough and full of it, or BS to put it in a nice way.

They should be saying, "We are committed to pulling the wool over everyone's eyes, to the fact that Mars is every bit as Earth like as Earth is".

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Tmcom · 2019-08-02 04:09:55

Ooooh, l love days like this, or l have hit the jackpot today, but more of that later, for starters.

Mars sunsets, theirs and mine from the top, and even with their BS filter it still shows a bluish sky and white sun.

Ones below that with the arrows, right, still trying to figure that one out?

Left, what looks like a martian plant.

The one on the right, as cleaned up as much as l can push it, and there appears to be something there, the reverse one below that shows that something is there.

A close up of a martian cotton plant, but whatever this is it is not the rover, and has white flowers.

And now for the biggie, l know l have been trying to find something solid to show that Mars has or once had intelligent life living on it now, or in the past, here you go.

A hollow martian steel or brass pipe!

Obviously manufactured as the end shows with perhaps another silvery pipe partially hidden by the dirt underneath, but harder to confirm that one.

But the first or pipe pretty much a slam dunk.

There is a mirror or flat component nearby, that is probably part of this, with some of the elements supporting that looking suspicious, (not natural) but this, (the pipe) is most likely part of something, (sewing machine, part of a small cabinets support frame, etc).

It is pretty obvious now that Mars had an intelligent race on its surface in the distant past!

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Tmcom · 2019-08-02 04:30:14

Phew, almost missed this...

There are some silver latches on this mirror, (they are real, not the rovers wheel, reflections) and have a pattern of silver balls with a hollow part in the middle, (most likely depicting a flower).

These are also directly above the peculiar shape on the other side, so most likely you pull these and some hatch opens?

This must have originally been a desk or more likely a woman's mack-up table?

Mars had intelligent life in the past, no doubts.

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Tmcom · 2019-08-03 03:42:18

Not much today, but still a good look at its sky.

Some clearly rain bearing, lol, so much for a dead rock.

Tmcom · 2019-08-05 03:43:12

Looks like martian artwork, since l cannot figure out what this is?

Another look at the real mars, with blue hills, setting sun, and plants with thin stems and thick, whatever up top, dotting the landscape, (CP shows strong green, except the first one).

PS almost through Sol 603.

SpaceNut · 2019-08-05 21:43:12

This would explain the images in some parts of mars
An ancient Mars crater likely spawned a devastating mega-tsunami

Tmcom · 2019-08-07 04:44:37

SpaceNut wrote:

This would explain the images in some parts of mars
An ancient Mars crater likely spawned a devastating mega-tsunami

Yes, but unlikely that the pipe l have found could survive for half a billion years on the surface with wind and rain, and sure a civilization could have been there way before we showed up here, (the dinosuars put a lid on our evolution).

This could explain why the oceans are more akin to large inland lake systems, but for the artifacts l have recently found, a more along the realms of 12.000 years, since at 500,000 years brass or steel would be a rusted mess.

It seems that mars may have been clobbered two times, while Earth got hammered once, (dinosaur extinction) although the second time an asteroid may have grazed the atmosphere and made it uninhabitable, for a while.

PS finished with Sol 603, but found nothing more.

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Tmcom · 2019-08-12 04:16:13

More plants today than ancient ruins, but l have found some of that as well.

Definitely something green growing from this rock, probably moss.

Top, left and bottom show the real mars at sunset, green landscape, scattered clouds and blue sky and whitish sun.

And bottom, left image may be showing tall, grass, (arrow) but l couldn't get any green on the CP, well very little, but the sun shining through grass is going to have color issues, so l will stay with grass.

More storm clouds.

Another artifact, which looks like a flexible piece of metal, cool.

And this, which is a very reflective sheet of metal, (arrows show the edge).

And l looked into this one further, and it might be an entrance to something?

The distant blob, (arrow) is the rover.

So most likely a reflective, rectangular panel behind this rock, which appears to have a sign on it, (which we can't see) which going by the reflection is possibly a face, with a handle, (arrow) growing out of its nose. So going by this the most likely grays have a thing for Gothic architecture.

Entrance to a residence, but either way a large panel of metal isn't natural, and the rover ignores it.

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Tmcom · 2019-08-14 03:12:37

A plant day today.

The one on the right is closely resembling a rose or tulip, although JPL staff have already removed it from the top of the rock.

This one shows water flows, which looks clear, and most likely the area went through a recent downpour.

Left more wild, tulips or bulb type plants, maybe even a prickle bush, everywhere, and right, a better look at our tulip, shadow that doesn't exist on the actual rock.

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