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#101 2018-07-12 04:09:04

elderflower
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Re: Healthcare for all, not Trump or Obama care

What frequent power cuts are those, Terraformer? How many have you had this year? How long did they last? I can recall only one this year, where I live, and that was reconnected in a couple of hours. I am not a top priority customer.
Despite the lack of investment in recent years the UK still has one of the world's best power grids.

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#102 2018-07-12 06:58:05

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Re: Healthcare for all, not Trump or Obama care

It was a reference to the 70s. Hence the use of the term British socialism.

The British power companies still cut people off for not paying, though. I don't know if there is any country that has both a functioning power grid and doesn't expect people to pay for their electricity.


"I guarantee you that at some point, everything's going to go south on you, and you're going to say, 'This is it, this is how I end.' Now you can either accept that, or you can get to work." - Mark Watney

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#103 2018-07-12 17:55:30

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Re: Healthcare for all, not Trump or Obama care

Power can be a critical thing even when healthy let alone when one is so ill. Even solar if no batteries would have not helped once the sun went down.

TV commercials have been appearing for the cut rate plans which not much information is forth coming yet as its still early for the renew season.

Funding for the Obamacare connection advertising have been dropping as its being stripped away and is more up to the states to continue to inform the public.

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#104 2018-07-15 08:34:59

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Special Report: Starting in Arkansas, Trump-era Medicaid rules alter healthcare landscape

Gregory Tyrone Bryant left his last stable job at a meatpacking factory to fight a cocaine addiction eight years ago. When he returned to the workforce a year later, his options were limited: mostly temporary jobs without healthcare benefits.

Bryant, 48, had been out of work again for more than a year until late last month, when he got hired as a janitor in his local school district. On a 90-day probation period, he hopes the job will turn into full-time work. He had been living off a monthly short-term disability check from his last job assembling rear axles for Toyota cars.

Since 2014, he’s relied on medical coverage offered under Arkansas’ expanded Medicaid program for low-income households. It proved essential last June when he needed surgery to replace his right knee, and covers costly prescriptions for acid reflux and high blood pressure medicines.

If his job doesn’t pan out, his unemployment will pose a new threat to his healthcare coverage.

In June, Arkansas became the first U.S. state to require that many able-bodied Medicaid recipients do some combination of work, volunteer, job training or schooling a minimum of 80 hours each month to keep their benefits, a sweeping shift in healthcare rules that will soon be followed by Indiana and New Hampshire. Another eight states await approval from the Trump administration for similar work requirements...

This is the poverty line guidlines chart for the states which are not the same as the federal guidline numbers.

The goal, they say, is to encourage healthier residents to return to the employment track, or seek better jobs that could eventually bring benefits.

There are not that many to go back even if they want to work the jobs available for them are not there to qualify for any real change in medical care insurance based on income.

Kentucky alone, nearly 100,000 more people could be eliminated from Medicaid within five years than without the new measures, state estimates

Kentuckians who do not work 80 hours in any one month or fail to pay new premiums will be locked out for six months; beneficiaries could take a health or financial literacy course to reactivate coverage.

In Arkansas, those who fail to meet the work requirements for any three months will be locked out of health insurance for the remainder of the year.

Not any reason to change if you lose the coverage that is needed to stay even somewhat healthy.

Most states that have submitted proposals will require adult beneficiaries who are not disabled, pregnant or elderly to engage in some combination of work, volunteer, job training or school opportunities for at least 80 hours a month – or lose their benefits.

Such requirements create new hurdles to healthcare businesses in states that adopt them. Those businesses, including health insurers, hospitals and community clinics, say they’re moving to minimize the number of people who could lose their insurance.

Wow so being disabled is now nothing for being abled to work.

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#105 2018-07-29 23:07:02

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Re: Healthcare for all, not Trump or Obama care

US Senator Bernie Sanders took some American doctors to Canada to see a universal health care system up close. YouTube video, 3 minutes 22 seconds.
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Can't Go Home: Americans In Canada Share Healthcare Stories. 6:48
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Health Care: U.S. vs. Canada
Sen. Bernie Sanders asked a panel of experts to contrast the United States health care system with single-payer models throughout the world.
Date: 12 Mar 2014. Before the last Canadian federal election, references to Canada's Prime Minister is the past one.
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#106 2018-07-30 16:50:55

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Re: Healthcare for all, not Trump or Obama care

Gee an Insurance that can not make false claims for its charged premium in that it was collecting for those that did not have any and a hospital that was inflating the charges for care that were as well being claimed as amounts that were also with uninsured peoples use of there facility. Claimed rate fees for in network insurance use of the hospital or doctors with a hospital or doctor that still wants to charge you the overage amounts....

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#107 2018-07-30 18:33:35

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Looks like we have a number for the cost..
Study: 'Medicare for all' projected to cost $32.6 trillion over 10 years, according to a study by a university-based libertarian policy center.

All U.S. residents would be covered with no copays and deductibles for medical services. The insurance industry would be relegated to a minor role.

So what is that number?

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#108 2018-09-18 20:01:06

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Talk about collusion Behind your rising health care bills: Secret hospital deals that squelch competition

Last year, Cigna Corp. and the New York hospital system Northwell Health discussed developing an insurance plan that would offer low-cost coverage by excluding some other health-care providers, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

The actions were blocked rather than looking to be fore the people best interest....

Dominant hospital systems use an array of secret contract terms to protect their turf and block efforts to curb health-care costs. As part of these deals, hospitals can demand insurers include them in every plan and discourage use of less-expensive rivals. Other terms allow hospitals to mask prices from consumers, limit audits of claims, add extra fees and block efforts to exclude health-care providers based on quality or cost.

So much for fixed price and of it being known before you go to get service....

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