This is your last chance to stop ISPs from messing up your Internet.

EdwardHeisler · 2017-11-22 13:15:42

The FCC just announced its plan to slash net neutrality rules, allowing ISPs like Verizon to block apps, slow websites, and charge fees to control what you see & do online. They vote December 14th. But if Congress gets enough calls, *they* can stop the FCC.

What is net neutrality? Why does it matter?
Net neutrality is the principle that Internet providers like Comcast & Verizon should not control what we see and do online. In 2015, startups, Internet freedom groups, and 3.7 million commenters won strong net neutrality rules from the US Federal Communication Commission (FCC). The rules prohibit Internet providers from blocking, throttling, and paid prioritization—"fast lanes" for sites that pay, and slow lanes for everyone else.

We are Team Internet. We support net neutrality, freedom of speech.
Nearly everyone who understands and depends on the Internet supports net neutrality, whether they're startup founders, activists, gamers, politicians, investors, comedians, YouTube stars, or typical Internet users who just want their Internet to work as advertised—regardless of their political party.

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kbd512 · 2017-11-22 14:57:12

Is there a specific law, statute, regulation number, etc we're supposed to reference when we call them?

Is it Senate Bill 993 or something else?

I'm not really into demonstrating or other such childish activities. If I have issues I wish to bring up with my representatives, then I call their staff and write to them.

Terraformer · 2017-11-22 15:28:35

As I understand it, this isn't a legislative matter. It's a... do you call them reserved powers in America? Powers that the government can exercise without having to consult Congress.

JoshNH4H · 2017-11-22 18:11:42

Net neutrality currently exists because of an FCC regulation which classifies broadband internet as a utility and thus allows it to be regulated under some act or another related to utilities, which gives the government more power to regulate them than it otherwise would have. This happened after the telecom companies sued, claiming that net neutrality was illegal because they were not at the time regulated as utilities.

Presumably the Trump administration wants to un-classify broadband internet as a utility in order to deregulate them so they can make more money. Congress could pass legislation enshrining net neutrality into law but because it has not done so explicitly the decision is currently in the hands of the executive branch.

SpaceNut · 2017-11-22 18:24:09

But that also now would allow states to charge taxes across state lines even when getting the item from a tax free state. This is about revenue generation for the federal government and for the states.

elderflower · 2017-11-23 04:09:35

Revenue generation is quite likely a major consideration for governmental bodies as well as for individuals and corporations. Expect heavy lobbying on this account. However a more worrying possibility is that some people will control content, undermining free speech and giving great power to control information or disinformation supplied to electorates.

sunpraiser09 · 2017-11-24 08:28:14

It's about time.

Antius · 2017-11-24 08:50:49

Sounds like a slippery slope. From a selfish UK perspective, how long will it be before we have a government controlled 'Internet standards authority' that 'requires' ISPs to block or slow access to any sites that do not promote Marxist values? If the practice of neutrality is dropped in the US, this sort of censorship would occur quite rapidly in the UK, because it is not a constitutional democracy in the way that the US is. There are all sorts of oppressive laws controlling what an individual can say and do that would be unimaginable to people living in the USA. These people would like nothing more than to control internet content.

Maybe it's time to get a VPN?

SpaceNut · 2017-11-24 15:32:11

With all the data bases that have been hacked and this new effort to release the ISP's we are looking at a further level of hacking that will endager the honest people even further as more magic credit card fraud will be perputrated. It will be easier to corrupt election data as it travels from city to city on the net.

If I buy a product from Amazon you have no means to tell from where its shipped which now means all internet orders will be taxed no matter what state free taxation status it has...

SpaceNut · 2017-12-09 20:26:33

'Parks and Recreation' actor hits FCC chair over net neutrality repeal

Pai announced last month the FCC would vote in December to roll back Obama-era net neutrality rules that require internet service providers to treat all web traffic equally.
As part of the proposal, regulation of internet service providers would also be turned over to the Federal Trade Commission.
Pai has ignored calls from Democrats and advocacy groups urging him to delay the vote and rejected a request from the New York attorney general’s office to investigate fake comments spamming the public comment period for the proposal.
Pai has also lashed out at celebrities for criticizing his plan to end the net neutrality rules, accusing them of using their “large online followings” to “give them outsized influence in shaping the public debate.”

FCC rejects NY AG's probe into net neutrality comments

Earlier this week, Schneiderman joined a growing list of Democrats who have called on Pai to cancel the FCC’s Dec. 14 vote to repeal the rules. They argue that the rulemaking process has been tainted by what appears to be a campaign to spam the public record with fake comments.

I keep hearing Fake News.....must be a connection to the same group that is causing the fix to go in....

SpaceNut · 2017-12-10 17:53:44

Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers must treat all data on the Internet the same, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of communication. For instance, under these principles, internet service providers are unable to intentionally block, slow down or charge money for specific websites and online.

The FCC plans to repeal net neutrality this week — and it could ruin the internet

The FCC will vote to repeal its net neutrality rules on December 14. On December 14, the agency will vote to repeal the net neutrality rules it put in place in 2015. With Republicans commissioners who oppose the rules outnumbering Democrats who favor them three to two, the outcome of the vote isn't in any doubt. The outcome is a foregone conclusion.
The repeal of the rules likely won't mean broadband providers will block your access to Google or slow Netflix so it's unwatchable. But the move likely will mean the providers will charge internet companies tolls to be able to send their content or services to you.
Big companies like Amazon, Google, Facebook, and Netflix will be able to afford those tolls. But smaller internet companies could be boxed out.

CalvinSteen · 2017-12-15 06:28:36

The repeal went on, but the war isn't over. We must reach out to Congress in order to stop its full implementation.

SpaceNut · 2018-01-06 17:56:33

But now its about the GOP making money....

The end of net neutrality: What it means for your internet, cable and phone bill

SpaceNut · 2018-01-12 19:03:01

The latest battle ground for your money is in a Bid to collect internet sales tax gets top US court review

State and local governments could have collected up to $13 billion more in 2017 if they’d been allowed to require sales tax payments from online merchants and other remote sellers, according to a report from the Government Accountability Office...

SpaceNut · 2018-09-30 21:22:51

The continued battle to not be taxed by those outside of a states borders U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions said the California Legislature has enacted an extreme and illegal state law attempting to frustrate federal policy,California's tough net neutrality bill prompts US lawsuit requiring internet providers to maintain a level playing field online.

Advocates of net neutrality hope the new law in the home of the global technology industry will have national implications by pushing Congress to enact national net neutrality rules or encouraging other states to follow suit.
A free and open internet is a cornerstone of 21st century life: our democracy, our economy, our health care and public safety systems, and day-to-day activities,"
"Rather than 50 states stepping in with their own conflicting open internet solutions, we need Congress to step up with a national framework for the whole internet ecosystem and resolve this issue once and for all,"

Well Well we did have one and then there was Trump with his mighty pen....

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