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#1 2017-10-11 17:21:40

louis
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Another great Space X success!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb7EShnLNqc

18th successful landing of the Falcon 9.  Almost becoming routine now...brilliant!


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#2 2017-10-11 18:36:15

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Re: Another great Space X success!

True but coming to an end soon as Space X will switch to working on the BFR.

SpaceX static fires Falcon 9 for Iridium 3, Vandenberg manifest realigns

SpaceX Falcon 9 successfully launches third set of Iridium-NEXT satellites

Falcon 9 conducts second launch this week with SES-11 mission

Still waiting to see what the Atlas replacement will be like for reuseability.

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#3 2017-10-12 01:33:57

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Re: Another great Space X success!

I think the run of successful propulsive landings though is very, very important as it will be so key to developing the BFR as a multi-purpose vehicle.

SpaceNut wrote:

True but coming to an end soon as Space X will switch to working on the BFR.

SpaceX static fires Falcon 9 for Iridium 3, Vandenberg manifest realigns

SpaceX Falcon 9 successfully launches third set of Iridium-NEXT satellites

Falcon 9 conducts second launch this week with SES-11 mission

Still waiting to see what the Atlas replacement will be like for reuseability.


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#4 2017-10-12 03:36:39

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Re: Another great Space X success!

Elon Musk, during his announcement this year. Talking about BFR:

It will literally land with so much precision, it will land back on its launch mounts.

That makes operation very practical, but landing with that much precision is very difficult. Expect this will take time. So far SpaceX has taken more time than Elon announced; expect BFR will be just as late.

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#5 2017-10-12 08:30:42

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Re: Another great Space X success!

I'm wondering where SpaceX will build the BFR? They didn't build a larger diameter rocket in Hawthorne due to transportation issues.

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#6 2017-10-12 10:57:22

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Re: Another great Space X success!

It has to be built at the launch site.  Makes me wonder what the new South Texas facility will eventually do,  since barge transportation with big things really is also feasible to Florida via the Intracoastal Canal.

There are no feasible sea transport routes from California to Texas or Florida,  except all the way down to the Panama Canal.  Nor is there a "good" way to get from Hawthorne to the coast with big things from the factory there.  Interplanetary vehicles will not launch polar from Vandenburg,  anyway.  That leaves Texas and Florida as feasible eastward launch sites. 

Has anyone noticed that if he starts launching any of his rockets from Texas,  that first stage landings on dry land in Cuba or Puerto Rico become feasible?  Barge transport back to Brownsville is also feasible,  too,  except when there are tropical storms about. 

There is another,  even-screwier idea:  refuel the first stage at its landing point (in Cuba?),  and fly it back to its launch point. 

GW

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#7 2017-10-12 11:25:37

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Re: Another great Space X success!

One reason for reducing BFR to 9 metre diameter is that it can be built at the SpaceX existing factory. It could also be built at Michoud. If built at Hawthorne, California, it would have to be towed by barge through the Panama canal to get to Florida. I believe he's planning to launch BFR from launch pad 39A at KSC. The one he's currently renting from NASA, where he intends to launch Falcon Heavy, and has been launching Falcon 9 since the explosion at launch pad 40.

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#8 2017-10-12 17:09:46

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Re: Another great Space X success!

The question of return to launch site after refueling could also include a new set of batteries as well to make that happen and sound to be more than possible for even the BFR as well as the Falcon 9.
AS for building the rockets it will come back to any place that costs the least to do as I am sure he is not funding workfare standing armies.

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#9 2017-10-13 14:45:14

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Re: Another great Space X success!

This is just a raw hunch or wild guess.  The BFR factory and its all-up ground test facilities go to Brownsville. 

He's already testing Raptor engines at McGregor,  but there's no feasible means to ship really big BFR items to McGregor. 

From Brownsville,  he could launch BFR,  or barge it to Florida for launch there. 

As I said,  a wild guess.  But I do guess good much of the time.

GW


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#10 2017-10-13 16:06:36

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Re: Another great Space X success!

As long he's building them in the USA, he will get the Trump stamp of approval I imagine, which is important.


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#11 2017-10-13 16:52:23

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Re: Another great Space X success!

Wandering close to politics.....

But yes to American jobs....

As to where it will be built expect the usual lobbying.....

Now I am wandering close as well....

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