New Mars Forums

Official discussion forum of The Mars Society and MarsNews.com

You are not logged in.

Announcement

Announcement: This forum is accepting new registrations by emailing newmarsmember * gmail.com become a registered member. Read the Recruiting expertise for NewMars Forum topic in Meta New Mars for other information for this process.

#1 2017-05-17 20:09:17

Dave_Duca
Member
From: Oconto, WI usa
Registered: 2017-03-15
Posts: 92

Dichotmy and Newton's Cradle

In the case for Mars' demise,

Three years ago, Christopher McKay sent me a White Paper on
Maria Marinova's presentation of the Mega Impact which has obviously
destructed an entire planet.
Leaving two small remnants we see today, called: Phobos & Deimos.

]http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 … 07070.html
Otherwise, google up: "Dichotomy Mars Mega Impact"

What's equally fascinating is how the Hellas Basin on one side the planet
and the Tharsis Rise on the exact opposite were created by
the Newton's Cradle effect at a time when the Planet was still soft inside
during its early stages of development.

As evidenced by the magnetometric photo map from nasa, the dominant south pole
was disturbed and upsetting it's axis nearly 51 degrees.
]https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA02059.jpg

Now, if we can only get the assistance to a Laboratory's Super Computer and
Back-Date the time-line to the moment of impact.

That would be nice, yes?

Last edited by Dave_Duca (2017-07-11 17:58:15)

Offline

#2 2017-08-23 13:00:07

RobertDyck
Moderator
From: Winnipeg, Canada
Registered: 2002-08-20
Posts: 7,934
Website

Re: Dichotmy and Newton's Cradle

The idea proposed in this paper is not consistent with accepted ideas of Mars. Most scientists now accept that the northern hemisphere had an ocean. The northern depression is rimmed by an escarpment. On Earth, weight of ocean water depresses crust into the mantle, causing the underside of ocean floor crust to melt, becoming thinner. Total thickness of crust plus water is roughly equal to continental crust. It's about weight floating on hot magma. The belief is the same occurred on Mars, when Mars was still hot. The weight of water causes the crust to subside, which causes a depression that collects water. That causes water to collect into an ocean basin, rather than spreading evenly over the surface. Obviously there's a limit; when the ocean crust becomes too thin, heat will conduct to the water, which will cool the crust preventing further melting. That will limit depth of the ocean basin. This occurred on Earth, and still occurs. Mars is too cold now, most likely the planet has cooled so that sort of crustal movement no longer happens.

Hellas Basic is different. That's clearly a giant impact crater. And Tharsis is exactly the opposite side of the planet. Obviously whatever impacted Mars caused a shock wave so intense that it caused volcanoes to erupt on the opposite side: Olympus Mons, etc.

The abstract for the linked paper doesn't mention the moons of Mars. Telescope spectra are consistent with carbonaceous chondrite asteroids (C-type), so scientific belief is both moons of Mars are captured asteroids. Earth's moon (Luna) has the same crustal elements and same isotopes as Earth's crust, which is why scientists believe Earth's moon is the result of impact. But Mars moons are different. Why would they be the result of impact?

Offline

#3 2017-08-23 16:01:45

SpaceNut
Administrator
From: New Hampshire
Registered: 2004-07-22
Posts: 29,431

Re: Dichotmy and Newton's Cradle

The Mars moons could have been created from volcanic eruption since mars gravity is so low and a sudden burst would have propelled massive amounts of magma towards orbit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_ … _eruptions

220px-VEIfigure_en.svg.png

Volcanic Eruptions Rocked Mars' Huge Canyon Valles Marineris, Study Finds

Offline

Board footer

Powered by FluxBB