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#901 2017-07-01 15:03:46

GW Johnson
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I wouldn't count on Mr. Trump's Space Council for anything substantive.  To him,  the outcome doesn't matter,  neither does who gets hurt,  or what operations get destroyed.  Only that there is a "win" to point at. 

Amazing how quiet this discussion thread has gotten since Mr. Trump has so thoroughly discredited and embarrassed himself (in full public view) in recent months. 

And yet his core supporters still seem to rabidly support him,  in spite of the damage he is so clearly doing to them.  Until that situation shifts (and sooner or later it will),  no punitive actions for Mr. Trump's misbehaviors or his illegalities is possible. 

GW

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#902 2017-07-02 22:04:09

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The beat of this drummer is getting louder after his call for voter personal information as part of the voter fraud investigations for all states.

The requested information includes the “full first and last names of all registrants, middle names or initials if available, addresses, dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen information.”

Marches across U.S. cities call for Trump's impeachment

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Seems since the Federal government can shutdown thats its nw time fr the states to do so as well rather than work for the people.  There were 46 states that needed to pass budgets by July 1, but nine failed. Now services are at risk and Maine and New Jersey have begun partial government shutdowns.

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#903 2017-07-03 09:36:48

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There are only 3 distinct grounds for impeachment that I can think of.  (1) incompetence that prevents doing the duties of office,  (2) obstruction of justice and similar crimes committed while in office,  and (3) treason.  Item (1) has never been used.  Item (2) has been.  Item (3) is defined in the Constitution as either "making war upon the United States" or "providing aid and comfort to the enemy".  It requires at least 2 witnesses to the actual act,  or a confession in open court.  Charges are brought by the House (articles of impeachment),  and the court where the case is tried is the Senate,  with the Chief Justice presiding,  not the VP.  It takes a 2/3 majority to convict.

Because there is no precedent,  Item (1) would be very hard to define and prove.  Item (2) may or may not be indicated by the ongoing investigations.  In any event,  those outcomes are months to years away.  To me it looks like the strongest case can be made for Item (3) treason,  but with the House and Senate controlled by a GOP that still supports him, impeachment seems unlikely,  conviction even less likely.  They need him to sign what they do pass,  as they have no hopes to override vetoes of anything truly toxic.   

Consider that Mr. Trump's words and actions have damaged not only our NATO alliance but most of the other alliances and relationships in Europe,  this continent,  and Asia.  That is something the Russians have tried to do without success for 70+ years now,  and he went and did it for them in a matter of months.  No reasonable person would classify Putin's Russia as anything but an adversary,  synonym for enemy.  Millions witnessed this in the mass media.  How is this damage to our alliances anything but "giving aid and comfort to the enemy"?

Strong case,  that is.  Now,  how do we get the House and Senate to work for us instead of those who bought their jobs for them?  Vote the silly bastards out in 2018 and 2020.  But pay attention to the primaries, so you have somebody decent to vote for.  The 2016 primaries were rigged by the rich/powerful to give us nothing but a choice between the slightly-lesser of two very great evils. 

GW

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#904 2017-07-04 16:41:02

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The case has been filed in federal court three times, once in California, and now twice in New York. This is not fake news but an attempt to not let it be quashed by the Trump lawyers.....
Sworn Testimony From Trump Rape Case Released, And It’s Bad News For Trump accused of raping a 13 year old girl back in the 90s. Now some of the court documents have been released. With Recording Surfaces, Exposing Trump Praising and Defending Statutory Rape
Donald Trump Rape Lawsuit: When Is the Next Court Date? Reminder: Donald Trump due in court after Election Day on child rape and racketeering charges

http://theproudliberal.org/sworn-testim … for-trump/

http://theproudliberal.org/chilling-new … e-scandal/

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#905 2017-07-04 16:48:41

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The continuing of those that have taken jobs under Trump have begun to jump ship Team-Trump Ethics Official Quits Because White House Refuses to Meet Its Own Standards

Hui Chen, who was the compliance counsel in the fraud unit of DOJ’s criminal division, published a post to LinkedIn on June 25th in which she disclosed her reasons for departing. According to Chen she could no longer remain in her position as the Trump administration failed to meet the even ethics standards expected of corporations.

The Russian ivestigation is digging deep Team Trump Republican Operative/Michael-Flynn Associate Tried to Work with Russian Government to Undermine Hillary Clinton’s Campaign something to which before his exist President Obama Hand Delivered Documents Linking Trump/Russia to Senior Intel Officials Before Leaving Office even when Officials Break Silence on Sen. McConnell’s Threat To Obama If He Exposed Russia Before The Election

Of course the real reason for trying to stop the investigation has to do with Mueller probe could draw focus to Russian crime operations

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#906 2017-07-04 20:56:55

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More states are responding to the voter fraud with nyet to requests (included in this List of 29 states outright refusing to cooperate with Trump’s pointless “voting fraud” commission and status of what others are complying with) that would cause real damage if allowed as collecting all this voting data in one location, as opposed to having it dispersed throughout 50 separate states, will make it a HUGE hacking target for cyber attacks. All of which have been targetted plus when you count all of the other break ins which have happened in the last few years accross the nations from retail to ferderal and medical data bases it really shows how dangerous that would be.
My own situations have come with 4 different hacks to data bases that contained Personal Information...

Soon if not already you will have seen the Founding Fathers' descendants unite 241 years later to re-create iconic painting
In which company ancestry was used to follow up the 56 men in 1776 that signed "The Declaration of Independence,".

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#907 2017-07-04 21:31:00

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I know how my touch is registered on the touch screens of tablets and banking so no wonder this is being called into question.... Lawsuit seeks to void Georgia congressional election results

Georgia's electronic touchscreen voting system is so riddled with problems that the results of the most expensive House race in U.S. history should be tossed out and a new election held, according to a lawsuit filed.
The lawsuit claims Georgia's touchscreen voting system has severe security problems, lacks verifiable paper ballots and cannot be legally used for elections. The new lawsuit comes weeks after the publication of a classified National Security Agency report describing a sophisticated scheme, allegedly by Russian military intelligence, to infiltrate local U.S. elections systems using phishing emails. The suit cites the work of private cybersecurity researcher Logan Lamb, who discovered last August that a misconfigured server had left Georgia's 6.7 million voter records and other sensitive files exposed to hackers. The complaint also notes that seven months after Lamb made that discovery, another researcher was able to do the same.

If I recal religious persecution is one of the ways to gain assylum so the partial ban that has gone into effect until heard is catching a few in its net from the banned country list....After Backing Trump, Christians Who Fled Iraq Fall Into His Dragnet

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#908 2017-07-05 15:38:19

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Well this explains the stupidity.... Trump commission: American voters don’t have right to ‘informational privacy’

President Trump’s voting integrity commission fired back at critics Wednesday, saying the Supreme Court has never recognized a constitutional right to “information privacy” that would prevent the panel from collecting and studying voter registration data from all 50 states.

So when someone pretends to be me and runs up bills...then no foul as its got to be another me...
oh and that birth certificate is fake so your not american....

Stupid followers..... PII is how we are identified and this needs to stay protected using the data for criminal activity under the guise of law enformcement to find illegals, naturalized citizens, immagrants that have commited a crime at sometime just to make it easy to deport.....

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#909 2017-07-05 16:02:08

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Direct impact due to deportations, illegal crackdown has caused Over $13 Million Worth Of Crops Have SPOILED, All Because No One Is Willing To Work Jobs Vacated By Migrants

This is the beginning of what will cause rising food prices....so the days of arm over production and subsidise are on the way out causing food prices to rise some more.

Currently, Santa Barbara County has a labor deficit of 26%. Growers, therefore, must leave produce to rot in the fields. An approximated $13 million of strawberries, broccoli, leafy greens, and other unharvested crop were plowed under last year, up from five years ago when damages amounted to an assessed $4.4 million.

California growers do not receive government support for reaping unpicked berries and vegetables as Midwestern gardeners do for destroying wheat or barley. Some area farmers have insurance for losses from heat waves or pests but not for lack of laborers.

Just another duh moment..

One of the main reasons why there are no workers is Donald Trump. Under the Trump administration, immigration detentions climbed by nearly 40$ in three months compared to the same time last 2016, Homeland Security recently reported.

Both Georgia and Alabama have dealt with similar problems in the past after passing an anti-immigrant bill:

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#910 2017-07-05 17:23:36

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The DOJ sent the letter to 44 states last Wednesday, the same day the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity sent a letter controversially requesting personal voter information. The DOJ letter requests that election officials respond by detailing their compliance with a section of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA), which covers 44 states and was enacted to help people register to vote, but also specifies when voters may be kicked off the rolls.

Other names for this act are the "Motor Voter Act" or real id... which only covers for use for voting ....not so....as many do not drive are forced to get this picture identification for other reasons and its not to vote....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_ … ct_of_1993

I guess they forgot that this act was updated by President Bush, signed it into law on May 11, 2005

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_ID_Act

A Real ID-compliant form of identification requires the following pieces of data:

    Full legal name
    Signature
    Date of birth
    Gender
    Unique identifying number
    Principal residence address
    Front-facing photograph of the applicant

To get a real ID you will need

    A photo ID, or a non-photo ID that includes full legal name and birthdate
    Documentation of birth date
    Documentation of legal status and Social Security number
    Documentation showing name and principal residence address

Digital images of each document will be stored in each state DMV database

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#911 2017-07-06 09:05:21

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More crimes are being uncovered in the Russian connections....
Russian Mafia-Linked Trump Associate Could Blow Lid Off ‘Dirty Money’ In US Real Estate Market to which associate who pleaded guilty to taking part in a mafia-related stock fraud scheme is cooporating

‘They Committed Treason’: CNN, Washington Post Have Damning Documents Of Bannon And Kushner

“We have seen and have copies of transcripts of calls between Kushner, Bannon and high level Russian official.” Documents prove there was a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia to hack the 2016 presidential election.

Classic redirection Trump insists 'nobody really knows' who meddled in election, points the finger again at Obama

President Trump Thursday again appeared to cast doubt again on the U.S. intelligence community's conclusion that Russia interfered in the 2016 election, saying in Poland ahead of a major speech there that there could have been other actors involved and that “nobody really knows for sure.”

"I think it was Russia, but I think it was probably other people and, or countries, and I see nothing wrong with that statement. Nobody really knows. Nobody really knows for sure," Trump said in his first press conference overseas as president.

The president also again placed blame on his predecessor,


There was so much backlash about this that its been corrected Gambia robotics students granted US visas after rejection to robotics competition is being held July 14-16.

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#912 2017-07-06 10:37:41

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I will agree that healthinsurance is screwed up and that when I ask for a policy for oneself that you would expect it to cover the person as a whole and not make up rules for pieces of the body for this reason or of others.
The premium for coverage are out of line with what gets paid and the care giver, hospital ER ect.. are still charging to much and are not cost controlled. I would also agree that penalty for not having health insurance should not be but also not giving a rebate or refund not part of a scheduel as a credit for paying the hugh premiums are also not right for those that do get coverage.
So if a base level of coverage is all that is required we start calling for measured health care or what is the realm of the standard HMO....and if so this should be a very low cost to the individual.
So I do not find the request by the RNC asked Hillary Clinton where her health care plan is - and Clinton responded in a Better Care Reconciliation Act (BCRA)

So lets make health care that is right for all...

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#913 2017-07-06 11:59:09

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This is par for the Trump administrations use of ethics as Voter fraud commission may have violated law

Experts say the failure to submit the request to states through the Office of Management and Budget’s Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) violates a 1980 law known as the Paperwork Reduction Act (PRA).
Experts interviewed by The Hill said they believed that the commission did fall under the Paperwork Reduction Act, a 1980 law that requires federal agencies to seek public input, including through a comment period, before making a request for information.

So procedure for information was not followed?

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#914 2017-07-07 19:30:20

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I thought that I was being kind with the one liner and image post of the VP at nasa so here is a copy of what was on nasawatch

Vice President Pence Voids NASA Hardware Warranty (Update)
By Keith Cowing on July 7, 2017 3:26 PM. 19 Comments

Keith's update: Official NASA response to the Pence "Do Not Touch" Photo: "The 'do not touch' signs are there as a day-to-day reminder, including the one visible on the titanium Forward Bay Cover for the Orion spacecraft. Procedures require the hardware to be cleaned before tiles are bonded to the spacecraft, so touching the surface is okay. Otherwise, the hardware would have had a protective cover over it like the thermal heat shield, which was nearby."

So in other words "do not touch" means "you can touch". Only at NASA.

I will let those that want to read the comments follow it up....

Mike Pence Was Against Ares 5/Orion Before He Was For SLS/Orion

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#915 2017-07-08 12:40:44

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G-20 summit 2017 protests prompt police to call in reinforcements

Wrong place and time for this as Ivanka Trump sits in for president at G-20 meeting

White House official said that Ivanka Trump’s time sitting in for her father was brief and that the topic under discussion at the time was relevant to her advocacy role on a women’s economic development initiative with the World Bank.

Nearly a year has passed and we are still finding voter fraud as Iowa woman charged with voting twice for Trump pleads guilty for voting twice for Donald Trump

Trump's voter fraud panel to meet as state refusals mount in effort to prove, his unsupported claim that millions voted illegally for Hillary Clinton will convene this month.

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#916 2017-07-08 18:46:16

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The deportation regardless of status in life has been done under a complete blanket and this one is why its not quite right to judge everything based off from entry into this nation especially after sever amesty events and the lack of any US action to further these entries into being put through legalizational status for entry.

Coffee Farmer in Hawaii Loses Deportation Battle, Returns to Mexico

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The 43-year-old was smuggled in to the U.S. when he was 15 in order to join his mother.

“President Trump has claimed that his immigration policies would target the 'bad hombres,'" Reinhardt said. “The government decision in the immigration case shows that even the 'good hombres' are not safe.”

most crimes have statutes of time of 20 years but this seems to be a never exoiring clock...
The sad part about this is

It could be up to 10 years before Ortiz is allowed back in the country,

His family will be all grown up and gone before he can come back even thou he is legally married...

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#917 2017-07-10 13:50:16

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Re: Politics

GW Johnson wrote:

I wouldn't count on Mr. Trump's Space Council for anything substantive.  To him,  the outcome doesn't matter,  neither does who gets hurt,  or what operations get destroyed.  Only that there is a "win" to point at.

Should we just keep doing the same things and expect a different result?

Do you have a crystal ball that the rest of us can look into to tell us what fictional destruction the Space Council has caused thus far?

GW Johnson wrote:

Amazing how quiet this discussion thread has gotten since Mr. Trump has so thoroughly discredited and embarrassed himself (in full public view) in recent months.

It's quiet here because liberals love their echo chambers.  After the lies and bloviating were exposed for exactly what they were, I guess the reverberations are all you have left, so we Republicans thought we'd let liberals enjoy their temper tantrums in solitude.  I can just as easily respond to any nonsense posted, if you wish.  I think the silliness here is mostly a waste of time.  Pitching a fit won't change anything.

GW Johnson wrote:

And yet his core supporters still seem to rabidly support him,  in spite of the damage he is so clearly doing to them.  Until that situation shifts (and sooner or later it will),  no punitive actions for Mr. Trump's misbehaviors or his illegalities is possible. 

GW

Liberals have already moved on to "punitive actions" for claims made by liberal media propaganda?  Who needs a trial?  We should just move to the sentencing phase.  After all, the media convicted him in the court of liberal opinion.  Who needs evidence when liberals will just make things up?  What's it like living in a world where no amount of evidence or lack of evidence ever matters?

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#918 2017-07-10 14:17:07

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SpaceNut wrote:

The deportation regardless of status in life has been done under a complete blanket and this one is why its not quite right to judge everything based off from entry into this nation especially after sever amesty events and the lack of any US action to further these entries into being put through legalizational status for entry.

It's absolutely terrible that breaking the law has consequences.  People should be free to do whatever they want, wherever they want to do it, whenever they want to do it, without any consequences whatsoever (unless it offends liberals, in which case we should skip any trial and just move right to the sentencing phase).  Snapping back to reality here, if I walk across the border into Mexico, then I'll be put in a Mexican prison if the Federales catch me.  We're so "cruel" here in America that we let this illegal alien go back to Mexico (and probably paid to do it) instead of dumping him in a federal prison.  Oh, the horror.

Whether or not you're 15 or 51, breaking the law in America has consequences and that should be the takeaway from his ordeal.  If Mexico is such a bad place to live that women are smuggling their children into America, then you'd think that eventually the people there would get sick of their government and elect officials who actually care about their own people, upholding their laws, and ensuring the prosperity of their own people.  The solution to all of life's little problems isn't running away.  That's little kid logic for solving difficult problems.  When millions of adults are using little kid logic to solve life's problems, what does that say about the country?

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#919 2017-07-10 20:40:01

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First barrel of the smoking gun... Trump Jr. Was Told in Email of Russian Effort to Aid Campaign

Trump Jr. hires lawyer while downplaying meeting with Russian attorney something and honest man would not need to do....

Vice Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee Mark Warner, D-Virginia, said Monday that the public has now seen "clear evidence" of the Trump campaign meeting with Russian officials in an attempt to meddle with the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

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#920 2017-07-10 22:57:55

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I never claimed any of the things Kbd512 accused me of,  in his post 917 above. I am neither a "liberal" or a "conservative" in the sense he uses for those words.  I deplore the "echo chambers" that both stereotypes live in.  Both groups end up believing in their own propaganda because of the classic "big lie" effect.  But,  repetition does not confer truth.

Personally,  I think it is high time everybody ditched all the ideologies,  and just looked objectively at "what is,  and what is not" for making decisions.  That does require at the very least a recognition that there is only fact and there is lie.  There are no "alt facts".  They are but lies.

Mr Trump needs no help from anybody else to seal his own fate,  whether it be by incompetence or by treason.  He will do himself in.  I just hope nobody tries to bail him out like the giant banks did in the 90's at his last bankruptcy,  because of the damage it will do to the rest of us.  They did it back then for their own maximum profit,  not any sort of justice.  His current bankers are nearly all Russian oligarchs to whom he owes the best part of a billion dollars,  or didn't you know that?

Neither does a GOP need any help to destroy itself,  when it is self-dominated by its minority extremist "right" wing.  Unfortunately,  the Dems are no better.  Both sold out to "big money" decades ago.  They only differ in the ways they try to deny it.  I haven't seen anybody worth voting "for" in decades,  only "against".

GW

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#921 2017-07-14 16:42:17

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A statement made by GOP member that he does not care how many die fromTrumpcare as long as its passed is a pretty sad individual....

One another not more smoke out of the GUN Republican donor kills himself after talking about working with Russian hackers to get Hillary Clinton's emails

Peter Smith killed himself days after an interview with The Wall Street Journal in which he said he sought out Russian hackers to try to retrieve some 33,000 deleted Clinton emails and pass them to Michael Flynn, then a campaign adviser to Donald Trump.

Followed the titter rant from Trump I am sure but its means of death that says foul play...

"asphyxiation due to displacement of oxygen in confined space with helium"

A cause of the rich trying to get richer is that the bottom of the wage earners can no long even keep there head above water... Minimum-wage workers can't afford their 1-bedroom apartments

The percentage of American full-time minimum wage workers who can afford to rent a one-bedroom apartment in any U.S. state without being what the government calls "burdened" is so vanishingly small — less than one percent — that it rounds down to zero.

The federal minimum wage is $7.25. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, "minimum wage workers tend to be young" and unmarried and often live with parents or otherwise share housing.

How much of the wage is to be used for that rent?

Researchers define "afford" by people's ability to pay 30 percent of their income or less on the cost of housing, which may include their mortgage, insurance and taxes. Those who are severely cost-burdened must use 50 percent or more of their income just to cover housing.

"more than 76 percent of renter households reside in a county or metro area where it takes more than 60 hours per week of full-time, minimum-wage work to reasonably afford even a one-bedroom unit. In California, the nation's most populous state, it would take 92 hours. In Virginia, it would take 109."

The National Employment Law Project reports, "forty-two (42) percent of U.S. workers make less than $15 per hour." The average U.S. renter makes only about twice as much at $16.38 an hour and even at that wage would have trouble affording housing.

http://www.nelp.org/content/uploads/Gro … ollars.pdf

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#922 2017-07-15 03:42:29

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The percentage of American full-time minimum wage workers who can afford to rent a one-bedroom apartment in any U.S. state without being what the government calls "burdened" is so vanishingly small — less than one percent — that it rounds down to zero.

Compared to this, everything else is a trivial irrelevancy. Seriously. We need massive deregulation (NOTE: I'm not talking about building code, I'm talking about zoning rules and minimum lot sizes which are designed to make housing and transportation more expensive) to ensure people in the Western world (it's not just an American problem) can afford a roof over their heads, and their families heads. Since the Boomers grew up and bought their houses, things have got massively out of hand, and it's the driving force behind the increased inequality we're seeing. Of course, the required correction would involve very large price drops, so existing homeowners have an incentive to vote against them - never mind the fact that it's screwing over the next generation and wrecking the country. America needs to clone Scalia nine times, put them on the Supreme Court, and have them find zoning in violation of the takings clause.


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#923 2017-07-15 08:40:57

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Really as it is to affect the development and conservation of the land. It is the states that are authorized to adopt laws to protect the public health,safety, morals, and general welfare of the people.   Land Use Law Center of Pace University School of Law

Perhaps the most significant land use power that the state legislature has delegated to local governments is the authority to adopt zoning laws. These laws divide land within the municipality into zones, or districts, and prescribe the land uses and the intensity of development allowed within each district.

This is where the troubles start with the inequity of law.... to which "Legal Doctrines That Help Balance Property Rights against the Public Interest "

There are several legal doctrines which protect landowners’ interests by limiting the government’s authority to regulate land use.
„Substantive Due Process:
Requires that land use regulations serve a legitimate public purpose. 
„Procedural Due Process: Requires that the administrative process by which regulations are adopted and enforced must follow the prescriptions of state statutes and meet fairness requirements.
„Equal Protection: Localities must avoid improperly discriminating among similar parcels or against types of land users in violation of equal protection guarantees of the state or federal constitution. 
„Authority: Since local governments in New York can exercise only those powers delegated to them by the state legislature, land use regulations cannot be beyond the local authority. 
„Taking of Property: Local land use regulations must not effect a taking of private property for a public purpose without just compensation in violation of the "takings" provisions of the state and federal constitutions. 
„Vested Rights:  Limits the authority of municipalities in certain cases to impose significant new regulations on existing investments in land, such as completed structures or projects under construction.

Which means you have the power to change what you do not agree with.

Why is zoning important

The corruption of greed in many of the boards is why you are seeing these events and the trip of power over others....

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#924 2017-07-15 21:00:11

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The current version of the health care will cause less people to be insured and those that do will have a lesser version of quality of care under tiered approach which will be as good as a creation of the death list for some with the chronic health issues.
But no fear to the other issues to come as Social Security on track for 'large, abrupt' cuts in 17 years unless Congress acts

who would have known 2 problems solved by just 1.....

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#925 2017-07-17 20:00:55

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Re: Politics

SpaceNut,

Americans are not supposed to have minimum wage jobs for the rest of their lives.  Not attempting to do anything further with one's life is not the fault of the rich, the poor, or anyone else but the people who made the decision to sit on their hands.  $7.25/hr is what I would pay a high school student for unskilled labor and oddly enough, my first civilian job after I left the Navy didn't rate much more than that.  I think I made between $9/hr and $12/hr stacking fiberglass trays and boxes for shipment in a factory, but it was a computer factory and I was interested in computers.  Getting a high paying job doesn't generally happen overnight, but if you're willing to commit your time, your brain, and your money, you can pretty much do anything you want in this country, which is still the land of opportunity.  The notion that everyone in America is going to be a self-made millionaire by age 20 is outright laughable, but opportunities abound for anyone willing to do the work and make a few sacrifices.  Decide what you want to do with your life and what you're willing to sacrifice to get it.

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