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#1 2017-05-16 09:59:01

Oldfart1939
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NASA's worst plan yet!

In a National Review article linked here: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/447644/, Robert Zubrin launches his tirade regarding NASA's latest idiotic proposal of construction of a Lunar orbiting satellite.

To quote the words of wisdom, attributed to that great American Thinker, Forrest Gump: "Stupid is as Stupid does."

What's the problem with NASA (non) leadership?

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#2 2017-05-16 11:27:09

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Re: NASA's worst plan yet!

...nasa's leadership is lacking James S. Martin Jr.
Currently;
- management has a belief system in scientists'
- scientists have departed the womb of science.
Science: that field of systematic knowledge of the physical world
gained through observation and experimentation by which
fact can be ascertained.
Nowadays, false premise is substituted for fact.

It's time to present "The State of Affairs" at the next Convention.

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#3 2017-05-16 13:26:11

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They have to justify the Space Launch System and its huge launch capacity. But it's so expensive, they can't afford more than one launch per year, maybe two at the most.

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#4 2017-05-16 14:20:54

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Re: NASA's worst plan yet!

So sad that NASA has lost its way like this.  It should focus on coms, science and outer-planetary exploration...leave Space X to do the rocketry, and exploration of Moon and Mars.

RobS wrote:

They have to justify the Space Launch System and its huge launch capacity. But it's so expensive, they can't afford more than one launch per year, maybe two at the most.


Let's Go to Mars...Google on: Fast Track to Mars blogspot.com

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#5 2017-05-16 18:30:42

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NASA has also become extremely "risk averse." They just cannot get the mind set beyond the  moon. Always justifying their decisions by needing easy emergency access to Earth.

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#6 2017-05-16 18:33:32

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I hope that the President makes a strong direction statement for NASA, similar to the famous Kennedy Rice University speech.

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#7 2017-05-16 18:50:26

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I think I have one up on the initial post as I saw that NASA’s Mars plans include a one-year mission to the Moon Program would cost an estimated $1 trillion, over a 25-year-span, according to the agency-funded non-profit Mars Institute.

Earlier this month, the agency revealed plans to build a new space station in cislunar orbit. That facility, known as the Deep Space Gateway, will be smaller than the International Space Station (ISS) and will be created from one of six deep space habitat concepts currently in development.

Current goal is to complete it in four crewed flights to deliver Deep Space Gateway infrastructure to the moon and a robotic arm to make the station more autonomous between 2018 and 2026. The first phase includes launching four manned vehicles to cislunar space — an orbit between the Moon and Earth — to transport building materials, a research module, a power source and an airlock. The first of three SLS launches required to fully assemble the DSG, which will not be populated year-round but will be maintained by astronauts, is scheduled for 2023.

Phase 2 would then begin in 2027, and would include the mission to deliver the Deep Space Transport vehicle.
The tube will be used to transport astronauts from the DSG to Mars, and in either 2028 or 2029, it will launch a crew to Mars – a journey which Science Alert noted will take about three years.

Furthermore, the website pointed out that the crew would be trapped in the tiny, tube-like craft for the entire 400-plus day trip, with no chance of escape should something go wrong, and they wouldn’t even get to step foot on Mars, as the proposed mission would not attempt to land. That part of the project will be reserved for Phases 3 and 4, the NASA report explained.

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#8 2017-05-16 19:59:17

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Can they get any more unrealistic? They expect to receive funding for this BS? Some heads need to roll!

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#9 2017-05-17 07:50:36

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It appears that this panel hasn't ever heard of the Mars Direct architecture?

http://www.space.com/36869-humans-to-ma … akers.html

Our best hope for ever getting to Mars seems to rest solely with Elon Musk. NASA leadership seems incapable of rational thought. We're down to saying to NASA: "Either lead, follow, or get the Hell out of the way."

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#10 2017-05-17 21:41:49

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Funding dead lines work but only when there is planned funding to go with them...
Nasa as a whole has to many projects and to many directions that it must put work into..
Its many sites appear to be duplicating engineering time when the same work only needs to be shared and done once.

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