How much the return to the Moon and Mars-trip costs ?

cIclops · 2007-03-14 08:16:33

Lastly, the hardware being built for Ares-I can also be used for Ares-V later, reducing its development costs accordingly. The booster and EDS engines will be almost identical, similar if not identical avionics, A-I upper stage and A-V EDS might be similar, and so on.

Exactly. At yesterday's House appropriations subcommittee, Griffin once again explained that the Ares Lunar architecture is the basis for Mars. Ares I provides safe reliable crew launch and the critical components for Ares V that in turns provides the lift capacity needed for human Mars missions. He was pushed on a timetable for the Mars mission and he reluctantly said "in the 2020s we can begin developing systems to go to Mars, we can be on Mars in the mid 2030s" and that "we can do this with budgets we have today in constant dollars projected forward".

Yang Liwei Rocket · 2007-04-15 21:30:34

How much for a moon base?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16126918/
Don’t ask

that article just seems a little sensationalist

Yang Liwei Rocket · 2007-05-26 04:57:58

Plan B for Outer Space
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1210

It is a telling sign of the times that also during that same week, Elon Musk's SpaceX, an emerging low-cost launch company, test-launched their Falcon-1 rocket. Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin filed plans with the FAA for another round of launch and landing tests. Sir Branson's Virgin Galactic has booked 200 people for spaceflights planned to begin in 2009. New Mexico is getting ready to vote on building a spaceport to accommodate these commercial ventures. And there are others. This progress is just 3 years after Burt Rutan won the Ansari X Prize for the first private spaceflight. In step with the classic scenario, these upstarts are doing what the incumbent can't. This is likely to become the venue of future human spaceflight.

SpaceNut · 2015-12-24 00:09:19

Another great topic and one that we do need to come to grips with or we will never do either for very long....

louis · 2015-12-24 07:56:44

Well obviously Musk is moving along the road map towards humans being able to get to Mars on a one way ticket at a cost of $500,000 per person.

http://www.space.com/18596-mars-colony- … -musk.html

He seems to arrive at that figure working backwards from what was needed to establish a colony of 80,000 - a rather odd approach perhaps.

A launch figure of about $2000 per kg seems to be Space X's goal. So for $500,000 you would be lifting and transporting 250kgs per person.

Anyway, I prefer a slow burn model for colonisation that doesn't involve giant transporters at an early stage bringing any old Joe or Jane, but rather sees the colony develop its own infrastructure through ISRU - e.g. solar reflectors and concentrators made of polished Mars-made steel, to power the colony, habs made with Mars-made bricks and other materials and so on - whilst at the same developing revenue streams that provide huge per capita amounts, thus allowing the colony to grow and import essentials from Earth at zero net cost.

SpaceNut · 2015-12-24 20:42:06

If we used ISS costs and time durations of use we would end up with 100 billion over a decade plus to build and a life expectancy of possibly 20 years, after final building block is laid with reocurring costs of operations at about 3 billion not counting the Russian part of the totals.

That said we will not be building ISS on the surface of either and the costs while its construction which were partly shuttle use, would be on par with the SLS costs to use.

If we use Nasa for everything I would say that we are looking at about the same costs for the same durations and build.

I would rather leverage what we can from Nasa and do it by private coporate control.....

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