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#1 2004-07-31 15:59:15

Palomar
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Re: Australia & Space Adventures Ltd. - ...Sub-Orbital Space Program

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*Pro-private and commercial spaceflight.  Buzz Aldrin is part of this.

"We, at Space Adventures, continue to strive to bring private space travel to all private citizens worldwide.  Selecting a viable location for our spaceport is another step in making commercial suborbital spaceflight a reality."   

--Cindy

P.S.:  I've got the X-Prize coming to my area, along with that new spaceport.  I think the folks at SAL should set up camp near Cairns!  Wouldn't that be an interesting coincidence as we New Marsians go?


We all know those Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

--John Sladek (The New Apocrypha)

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#2 2004-07-31 16:18:43

Rxke
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Re: Australia & Space Adventures Ltd. - ...Sub-Orbital Space Program

Going to Australia will have one big disadvantage: if they eventually want to go orbital, they're a bit far from the equator, so payload will be small...


ExoMars' launcher's 2nd stage is probably en route to Mars. Unsterilised... yikes

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#3 2004-08-01 07:08:03

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Re: Australia & Space Adventures Ltd. - ...Sub-Orbital Space Program

Hi guys!
    There have been plans off and on for decades about a spaceport north of Cairns on the Cape York Peninsula. It's pretty close to the equator and, being part of Australia, one of the oldest democracies in the world, is politically stable.
    The trouble is the local aborigines, in cahoots with the ultra-greenies and various backward-looking left-wing groups, have consistently stymied all attempts to proceed with the plans.  :bars2:

    When I finally take my rightful place as benign dictator of the world, the Cape York Spaceport, along with free strawberry daquiris, will be high on my list of priorities!  tongue   :laugh:


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#4 2004-08-01 08:09:07

Palomar
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Re: Australia & Space Adventures Ltd. - ...Sub-Orbital Space Program

...along with free strawberry daquiris....

:laugh:

*You remembered!   :;): 

--Cindy


We all know those Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

--John Sladek (The New Apocrypha)

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#5 2004-08-02 13:24:35

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Re: Australia & Space Adventures Ltd. - ...Sub-Orbital Space Program

Damn local aborigines, don't they know Australia belongs to the convicts now.  :laugh:

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#6 2004-08-03 08:50:30

Palomar
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Re: Australia & Space Adventures Ltd. - ...Sub-Orbital Space Program

Hi guys!
    There have been plans off and on for decades about a spaceport north of Cairns on the Cape York Peninsula. It's pretty close to the equator and, being part of Australia, one of the oldest democracies in the world, is politically stable.
    The trouble is the local aborigines, in cahoots with the ultra-greenies and various backward-looking left-wing groups, have consistently stymied all attempts to proceed with the plans.

*I suppose this may sound naive any way I try and phrase my questions, but here goes:

Why exactly are the aboriginal people in the area opposing this?  Do they reside on land reservations similar to the U.S. Native population?  Is the Cape York Peninsula near to one of their reservations, if so? 

Are they simply seeing this as an environmental situation/concern? 

Or is it more an issue of "this was our land originally" (the sins of the fathers shall be visited upon the sons)? 

Just wondering.

--Cindy


We all know those Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

--John Sladek (The New Apocrypha)

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#7 2004-08-03 10:33:22

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Re: Australia & Space Adventures Ltd. - ...Sub-Orbital Space Program

Covering an area of 14 million hectares, Cape York Peninsula in far north Queensland has miraculously survived the wave of destruction that has engulfed the environments of the east coast of Australia. It is one of Australia's, and the world's, great wilderness areas.

http://www.wilderness.org.au/campaig....kground

For the past decade, The Wilderness Society has been a leader in the campaign to protect the superlative wilderness of Cape York Peninsula. In that time, we have successfully campaigned for the addition of approximately one million hectares of wilderness to the National Park system and as Aboriginal freehold on Cape York.

http://www.wilderness.org.au/campaig....sandcyp

http://www.spacetoday.org/Rockets/Space … ralia.html

Meeting resistance. However, thousands of Aborigines who call tropical Cape York Peninsula home disagreed with the premier of Queensland. They campaigned against the proposed launch site, calling it a "second invasion" of their country.

The spaceport is backed by the government of Australia and the state of Queensland, but the Wuthathi and Kuku Yau communities of Aborigines said the launch site was planned in Tokyo, Moscow and Washington, without consideration for local land rights.

The local Cape York Aboriginal Land Council used legal means to stop the development. Wuthathi people are traditional Aborigine owners of the outlying land on the east coast of Cape York Peninsula.

Trade some trees for some stars?

Seems to me that the natives would prefer to keep the area as is, and gear the area more towards environmentaly friendly industry... like eco-tourism.

It also seems to be akin to some native tribes reverence towards the Black Hills, certain hunting grounds, etc- it has cultural significance and meaning related to how they live their lives.

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#8 2015-11-25 10:04:10

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Re: Australia & Space Adventures Ltd. - ...Sub-Orbital Space Program

Fixed another shifting topic..

So what's the status on the Australian spaceport?

I Registered: 2004-07-22 only days before the posting of this topic and had a win 98 machine with a 56k modem back in the Day.

Australian Space Research Institute

The Space Industry Innovation Council has just published its Strategic Roadmap on www.space.gov.au check it out!
http://www.space.gov.au/
Click here for the Space Industry Innovation Council or here for the Strategic Roadmap in pdf format.
http://www.space.gov.au/SPACEINDUSTRYIN … fault.aspx
http://www.space.gov.au/SpaceIndustryIn … 0Final.pdf

=http://www.space.asn.au/Space_Associat … ralia Inc.

Of course http://www.marsdrive.net/ which has restarted there efforts for space

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