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soph

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Registered: 2002-11-24

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Re: I herd there gonna start drafting - the draft

I just saw an estimate that we have some number like 8 million+ illegals living in this country, without a hitch! 

They did renew their visas.  Our government simply didnt take the time to fill out their end of the paperwork.  Judging by the way things have gone, i wouldnt be surprised if theyd renewed their visas the day after they got here, and they still hadnt been filed by the government.

Josh Cryer

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Re: I herd there gonna start drafting - the draft

I wouldlove to see whether or not that number includes people whoare in processing and so on. Most people want to be legal, without a doubt. When you're legal you can get much higher paying jobs.

The INS is just way too bloated.

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Roark

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Re: I herd there gonna start drafting - the draft

Holy smokes, I agree with you.  The INS is one of many incompetent and totally ineffective government institutions that should be completely scrapped and rebuilt from the ground up.  Quite a few could even be scrapped and left at that.

Josh Cryer

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Re: I herd there gonna start drafting - the draft

The US just needs to loosen their immigration policies, and let more people immigrate.

It's the only solution, without making the INS bigger than it already is.

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Roark

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Re: I herd there gonna start drafting - the draft

Here's a quick example from my hometown of how well the INS works for you, Josh:

From the Bonner County News at http://www.ruralnorthwest.com/bonner/ne … 020716.htm

Oldtown teen killed in two-vehicle crash: Tesia Parris, 15, Oldtown, was killed in a two-vehicle collision July 2 in Spokane as her family was on their way home from Tesia?s last basketball game. As her father, Harry, who was driving, pulled into the intersection of Francis and Monroe after the light turned green, the pickup was broad sided by a Mitsubishi 3000GT at a high rate of speed. According to the Washington State Police, Abdulwahad Al Jazairy was traveling between 65 and 70 miles per hour in a 35 mile per hour zone when he struck the Parris vehicle. The force of the collision ejected Al Jazairy from the Mitsubishi and the car rolled, landing on top of him, but he suffered only minor injuries. He is now in jail in lieu of $1-million bond, charged with vehicular manslaughter. In addition, he is wanted by the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service for violating terms of his student visa, which allowed him to come to the U.S. from Saudi Arabia in 2000. Harry Parris was transported by ambulance to Sacred Heart Medical Center while his wife, Celeste, and Tesia were taken to Deaconess Medical Center. Their younger daughters, Tawny, 14, and Tori, 12, suffered only minor injuries. The following day, Tesia, who would have celebrated her 16th birthday July 16, was pronounced dead.

Al Jazairy went through the intersection 20 seconds after the stoplight turned red.  He also had several hundred dollars in unpaid traffic fines.  The INS is worthless, and this story proves it.

On a more positive note, it should be noted that Al Jazairy is now being charged with first degree murder for this accident.

CalTech2010

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From: United States, Colorado

Registered: 2002-11-23

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Re: I herd there gonna start drafting - the draft

Letting more immigration happen is not the option.  I agree with the last post in that we need to deport more people who have caused problems, but at the same time slow immigration to the US, particularly student visa issuing.

I don't know if anybody's looked at the numbers, but many of our American universities have had nearly the same enrollment numbers since the 1980's, and our country has grown a bit since.  I saw a poll on CNN the other day that said 48% of college freshmen had "mostly A's" in high school.

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PaganToris

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Re: I herd there gonna start drafting - the draft

i have a idea if i get drafted ill just take a hbunch of PCP and ill go at it with the damn iraqis it would be verry cool

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CalTech2010

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From: United States, Colorado

Registered: 2002-11-23

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Re: I herd there gonna start drafting - the draft

Don't get too comfortable, Pagan.  The most likely draft age would be 18-25 

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soph

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Re: I herd there gonna start drafting - the draft

So the American identity should die?  We have grown as a melting pot, not as a place where the ladder is kicked behind the first waves of immigrants...to end this would be to destroy what America is.

CalTech2010

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From: United States, Colorado

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Re: I herd there gonna start drafting - the draft

I said to slow immigration, not end it all together.  It really cheeses me off when students come to the US for an education and then turn around and leave.

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