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From what I understand, here is the timeline of this incredible discovery:
1971, Apollo 15 takes footage of the moon surface. Images published from that, show (from far off) a huge 2 mile long cigar shaped object on the surface, at a crater.
1972, last official NASA mission to the Moon (Apollo 17).
1976, secret Apollo 20 mission to the moon, to explore above "object" - better, closer photos and film taken during that mission.
2007, a veteran member of NASA (an American or Soviet former technician, who worked as insider during the 70s on Space classified missions) breaks the silence and uploads material onto YOUTUBE to bring this discovery to the public.
THE CRITICAL ISSUES AT HAND NOW
The photos taken in 1971 (taken from far off) are genuine and accepted as such. But what the 2 mile long cigar shaped object on the surface at the crater IS, still remains in dispute (as NASA deny that there even was an Apollo 20 mission).
the new photos that emerged in 2007 and the new video showing closer detail of the object, are controversial.
the dimensions of the object are colossal, 2 miles long and as high as the Eiffel tower, this thing is big, pummelled by meteorites over millions of years, what it is, may already be known to the chosen few.
"The insider" alleges the age of the craft to be 1 billion years and asserts that when astronauts began to enter the craft to explore it, they discovered an earlier exploration had already occurred
These are the critical issues and however you feel about them, they deserve careful consideration
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hi Koeng, don't know if you saw the 2 minutes video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpTA9v7s34 it includes actual black and white photos from the 1971: Apollo 15 mission of the moon surface
The object seen is real (and huge) but whatever you believe it to be - there is a definite lack of discussion!
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Give us a break folks. It was only fantasy......Illusions of the Mind....
Vincent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndYEdGd8Gs4
Last edited by Vincent (2012-10-25 13:02:33)
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The Saturn-V boosters that might have supported these "Apollo 19 and 20" missions are pretty well accounted for at other sites on the internet. Most of the components (stages) have been on public display since the 1970's Apollo-Soyuz mission (supposedly "Apollo 18"). You still cannot launch to the moon without an adequate rocket today, and you certainly could not, back then. So, I think this stuff referenced here as "Apollo 19/20" is a fake, as is so much that I see posted on the internet.
Myself, I do not post fake stuff. Whatever you see that I put up there, is real. That would be on http://www.txideafarm.com, and http://exrocketman.blogspot.com. There's a bunch of how-to stuff for manned landings on Mars posted there on "exrocketman" in recent months. 60-ton-class manned Mars landers are very easily feasible, as long as you break out of the "rut" of prior hardware practices.
In particular, you must dispense with aero decelerators on Mars, and go straight to rocket braking for your landing, once you "pop out" of the high-heating hypersonics at about Mach 3 (local). There's no point to chutes or ballutes or any other aero-decelerator concepts: you "pop out" too low to use a chute at high ballistic coefficient, even at very shallow entry angles.
GW
GW Johnson
McGregor, Texas
"There is nothing as expensive as a dead crew, especially one dead from a bad management decision"
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