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#1 2007-11-19 21:47:10

Dayton Kitchens
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Re: How Much Could A President Committed To The Space Program Do

I've always wanted to be president.

Lets say someone that was very heavily interested and committed to the U.S. space program was elected and was willing to fight with Congress to get the U.S. space program the resources it needed.

How much could a president actually do for our space program in 4 or 8 years.

I think a president, if they were willing to fight could get one major manned program approved by Congress and enough of the funding guaranteed to see it through.

And probably get approval for three or four major unmanned programs approve.

The key would be to get a manned program going that could have as many uses as possible

For example.

Start a manned Mars program that puts  U.S. astronauts on Mars every 26 months..........but where the primary hardware can be used for 1)long duration lunar missions 2) near earth asteroid landings 3) orbital missions to Venus.

And add to that the following unmanned programs

1) Mercury orbiter & Sample Return
2) Orbiter/Atmospheric Probe/Moon Lander to Uranus
3) Orbiter/Atmospheric Probe/Moon Lander to Neptune
4) Deep Space Thousand Astronautical Unit Probe

And finally, a serious advanced propulsion technology program that could power missions to the outer planets.

I think that is the most any president could do.

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#2 2007-11-22 12:05:52

Martian Republic
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Re: How Much Could A President Committed To The Space Program Do

For an American President to be able to do some of things that we want to do in space as you would like to do. You first have to understand the power structure inside the United States and throughout the financial sector of the world and primarily in Europe with this control of the private banking. An American President would have to retake the Central Banking to bring it back under the control of the US Government again. Which would put his life on the line and might get him killed like it did for John F. Kennedy when he gave the Treasury Department the power to generate credit. It was withdrawn about two to three months after his death. But, assuming that you don't get assassinated by this power structure, then you will have control over the Central Banking under either the Treasury Department or a Third National Banking System. Under the Authority of the US Constitution, the President could then direct that credit that would be needed to rebuild the United States and could also direct some of the credit to finance a New National Space Goal as a National Policy. In that situation, you could do your own John F. Kennedy Apollo Mission that sent us to the Moon. Not only that, you could super size your National Space Goals Mission.

You would be able to set several National Space Goals.

For example:

1. You could speed up the current return to the Moon program

2. Development of a Scam Jet/rocket to Orbit configuration for maybe 20 to 30 people.

3. Develop nuclear power space of either or both fission or fusion for going into deep space between the Earth, Moon, Mars and the asteroids.

4. Permanent base on the Moon and/or Mars.

Then show how you intend to pay for it and how it will benefit the American people and make the offer to the rest of the world to also participate in this great and mighty project that we American are committing ourselves to.

Larry,

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#3 2007-11-22 20:42:57

Tom Kalbfus
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Re: How Much Could A President Committed To The Space Program Do

The President of China can do alot more, he can just say, "I want to go to Mars because I think it would be fun. Get me there!" With a controlled media and a rubberstamp legislature, he would be limited only by the economic capacity of China.

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#4 2007-11-24 11:22:38

Martian Republic
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Re: How Much Could A President Committed To The Space Program Do

The President of China can do alot more, he can just say, "I want to go to Mars because I think it would be fun. Get me there!" With a controlled media and a rubberstamp legislature, he would be limited only by the economic capacity of China.

This is one of the few times, that I more or less agree with you.

But, don't let it go to your head Tom!

Larry,

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#5 2007-12-24 03:09:47

Ron Carlson
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Re: How Much Could A President Committed To The Space Program Do

How much could a president actually do for our space program in 4 or 8 years.

Look what Lyndon B. Johnson did.

He was really the man who was America's greatest proponent of space travel while he was Majority Leader of the U.S. Senate and President and pushed the Apollo program during the days of the "Space Race" with the Russians.

While Kennedy set the goal of sending humans to the Moon, it was Johnson who saw that the job got done despite increasing Congressional opposition during the Nam years and the years of civil unrest.

Ron Carlson

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#6 2007-12-24 05:23:29

cIclops
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Re: How Much Could A President Committed To The Space Program Do

Look what Lyndon B. Johnson did.

He was really the man who was America's greatest proponent of space travel while he was Majority Leader of the U.S. Senate and President and pushed the Apollo program during the days of the "Space Race" with the Russians.

While Kennedy set the goal of sending humans to the Moon, it was Johnson who saw that the job got done despite increasing Congressional opposition during the Nam years and the years of civil unrest.

Ron Carlson

How much of the Apollo success was really due to Johnson or Kennedy, weren't they just spokesmen for the real drivers of the space program - the military, industrialists, engineers and scientists? (not necessary in that order of importance)


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#7 2007-12-24 08:44:30

Ron Carlson
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Re: How Much Could A President Committed To The Space Program Do

Look what Lyndon B. Johnson did.

He was really the man who was America's greatest proponent of space travel while he was Majority Leader of the U.S. Senate and President and pushed the Apollo program during the days of the "Space Race" with the Russians.

While Kennedy set the goal of sending humans to the Moon, it was Johnson who saw that the job got done despite increasing Congressional opposition during the Nam years and the years of civil unrest.

Ron Carlson

How much of the Apollo success was really due to Johnson or Kennedy, weren't they just spokesmen for the real drivers of the space program - the military, industrialists, engineers and scientists? (not necessary in that order of importance)

The scientists, engineers, NASA and Big Aerospace wouldn't have had a single penny to work with had not the politicians in the House, the Senate and the Oval Office passed and signed the spending bills.

Ron Carlson

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#8 2007-12-24 09:01:44

Ron Carlson
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Re: How Much Could A President Committed To The Space Program Do

And finally, a serious advanced propulsion technology program that could power missions to the outer planets.

America (i.e., NASA) really needs to get on the stick and develop propusion systems that will run rings around our old chemical rocket technology.

It takes too long to get to Mars with chemical propellants and unnecessarily exposes our astronauts to deadly radiation from the Sun while en route as well as deadly radiation while on Mars.

We (i.e., NASA) really need to figure out a way to make interstellar space travel a practical reality so we can find and settle other Earth-like planets as Planet Earth is rapidly reaching it's maximum population carrying capacity.

Ron Carlson

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#9 2007-12-24 10:41:00

cIclops
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Re: How Much Could A President Committed To The Space Program Do

The scientists, engineers, NASA and Big Aerospace wouldn't have had a single penny to work with had not the politicians in the House, the Senate and the Oval Office passed and signed the spending bills.
Ron Carlson

Yes, but who persuaded the politicians to appropriate funding for such an ambitious program? Few politicians have any grasp of engineering or even appear to dream of spaceflight. It was Wernher Von Braun who pushed hard for a space program and when Sputnik happened the military wanted a crash program for reconnaissance satellites and launchers. The politicians as usual rode the media wave created by Sputnik and later by Gagarin, the stage was then set for them to approve the funding.


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