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#151 2003-01-07 23:51:49

AltToWar
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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

On this island, can I be King?


If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them. -Henry David Thoreau

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#152 2003-01-08 09:34:55

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

You have as much a right to be King as I do.

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#153 2003-01-08 13:03:08

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

None of us know how we became shipwrecked, none of us know where we came from. We just make shit up to while away the time on the island.

Wow.  You really are grizzled.  tongue


"Some have met another fate.  Let's put it this way... they no longer pose a threat to the US or its allies and friends." -- President Bush, State of the Union Address

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#154 2003-01-08 13:42:55

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

I wonder what that means.

Here Fido... come here boy... that's a good wittle boy. Fido want a treat? Fido want everlasting peace? Yes he is such a good wittle boy. Extra doggy snack for woo.

tongue

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#155 2003-01-08 13:43:37

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

You have as much a right to be King as I do.

Zero? wink


Some useful links while MER are active. [url=http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html]Offical site[/url] [url=http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Web.html]NASA TV[/url] [url=http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/]JPL MER2004[/url] [url=http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/statustextonly.html]Text feed[/url]
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The amount of solar radiation reaching the surface of the earth totals some 3.9 million exajoules a year.

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#156 2003-01-08 13:50:25

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

*exactly*

Besides, if you have to ask to be King, then you obviously lack the qualities neccessary to be King. wink

I learned something last night. There is no word for a form of government where the "best citizens" govern. There is for a government of "worst citizens", but not for the "best".

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#157 2003-01-08 14:04:05

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

Maybe one day we'll have ourselves an island where no one is king.


Some useful links while MER are active. [url=http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html]Offical site[/url] [url=http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Web.html]NASA TV[/url] [url=http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/]JPL MER2004[/url] [url=http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/statustextonly.html]Text feed[/url]
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The amount of solar radiation reaching the surface of the earth totals some 3.9 million exajoules a year.

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#158 2003-01-08 14:13:19

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

Maybe one day we'll have ourselves an island where no one is king.

you forgot the rest of the quote:

...and everyone plays the fool.

wink

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#159 2003-01-08 14:48:35

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

Thank you for comparing my religion to your dog, clark.  That makes me feel good inside.


"Some have met another fate.  Let's put it this way... they no longer pose a threat to the US or its allies and friends." -- President Bush, State of the Union Address

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#160 2003-01-08 14:52:11

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

I remember you saying some rather offensive things about the pope. 

do you go to church every sunday?  attend every necessary church service?  know the bible front to back?

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#161 2003-01-08 15:02:42

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

I remember you saying some rather offensive things about the pope. 

do you go to church every sunday?  attend every necessary church service?  know the bible front to back?

What does that have to do with anything?  I said some things about the Catholic church and the actions of their priests, and everyone cuts loose.  Likening someone's religion to their dog is far worse than talking about credible evidence that the Catholic church knew about the actions of their priests.


"Some have met another fate.  Let's put it this way... they no longer pose a threat to the US or its allies and friends." -- President Bush, State of the Union Address

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#162 2003-01-08 15:03:38

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

Well, let's be fair Cal- I wasn't comparing your religion to my dog; no no no. I was comparing your reasons for your belief to my relationship with my dog. Glad I could make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I like to think that is how my dog feels when I pet him on the head.

big_smile

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#163 2003-01-08 15:08:09

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

You claim that it is your religion.  i am just gauging the credibility of your claim.

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#164 2003-01-08 15:15:44

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

You claim that it is your religion.  i am just gauging the credibility of your claim.

Are you saying I claim to be Catholic?


"Some have met another fate.  Let's put it this way... they no longer pose a threat to the US or its allies and friends." -- President Bush, State of the Union Address

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#165 2003-01-08 15:29:18

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Nope. You're parents are protestant, so that makes you a protestant.

Some people choose their beliefs, most just inherit them. Enjoy!

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#166 2003-01-10 15:25:23

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

Nope. You're parents are protestant, so that makes you a protestant.

Some people choose their beliefs, most just inherit them. Enjoy!

This is true, but I still find my parent's beliefs to be what I find true.  My parents are far less conservative than I am, if this is any indicator of how they raised me.

Funny how you rant on & on about religion, Cal, since you're not even a good Christian. You twist things around, your disrespectful to older people. Jesus was humble, you sure aren't.  Clark & Soph aren't buying your religious crapola. Neither is anyone else here. Get something through that thick skull of yours for once. Blah, blah, blah.....you just have to be the center of attention, like hearing yourself talk.  pppfffftt.

Hmmm... all this anger towards a complete stranger.  How do I twist things around?  When am I disrespectful to other people?  The rest of us can have civil debates, but you just have hatred and obscenities to spray.  Get a life instead of harassing some teenager that you've never even met.  I really regret telling anyone my age now, because you'd be singing a different tune if I hadn't.

And, like Jesus, I'm going to turn the other cheek and walk away George.  Have a great weekend!  big_smile


"Some have met another fate.  Let's put it this way... they no longer pose a threat to the US or its allies and friends." -- President Bush, State of the Union Address

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#167 2003-01-10 15:35:15

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

When people point how you twist things around and avoid questions, you get hostile.

Whether you are 13 or 50, your know-it-all attitude is annoying.  It seems you've become less and less receptive to being told youre wrong.

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#168 2003-01-10 15:54:32

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

Don't tell me that.  Clark has pretty much convinced me that affirmative action isn't so bad, and I was deathly opposed to it before.


"Some have met another fate.  Let's put it this way... they no longer pose a threat to the US or its allies and friends." -- President Bush, State of the Union Address

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#169 2003-01-10 16:00:11

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

Affirmative action is bad...at least in terms of the fact that we need it for minorities to get a fair shot.  We shouldnt need these types of programs for all people to be treated equally.

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#170 2003-01-10 16:04:07

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

I agree (and so does everyone else) that getting rid of all racial intolerance is the best thing to do.  But he got me to agree with the underlying concepts of what he was talking about.


"Some have met another fate.  Let's put it this way... they no longer pose a threat to the US or its allies and friends." -- President Bush, State of the Union Address

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#171 2003-01-10 16:08:13

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

I'm not whining about you, I was calling you out.


"Some have met another fate.  Let's put it this way... they no longer pose a threat to the US or its allies and friends." -- President Bush, State of the Union Address

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#172 2003-01-10 16:22:59

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

Oh, stop.  Cal, youre not jesus.  Thats a dramatization. 

Everybody just give it up.

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#173 2003-01-13 03:27:55

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

I found a really interesting quote. smile

I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. - Stephen Roberts


Some useful links while MER are active. [url=http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html]Offical site[/url] [url=http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Web.html]NASA TV[/url] [url=http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/]JPL MER2004[/url] [url=http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/statustextonly.html]Text feed[/url]
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The amount of solar radiation reaching the surface of the earth totals some 3.9 million exajoules a year.

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#174 2003-01-13 10:38:18

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

And then I will ask you for evidence as to how you came to realize that there is no god, then you might understand why I dismiss your claims.

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#175 2003-01-13 11:37:13

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Re: God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything.

?If you can dismiss all the other gods, I see no moral reason why I cannot dismiss yours in the same way. You should provide a reason why you dismiss all the other gods, and in that you will find the answer as to why I dismiss yours.?

Of course, I don't exactly agree with the crux of Stephen Roberts' quote (that there is no god), I just think it's an interesting tidbit. And probably the only real argument that atheists have.


Some useful links while MER are active. [url=http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html]Offical site[/url] [url=http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Web.html]NASA TV[/url] [url=http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/]JPL MER2004[/url] [url=http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/statustextonly.html]Text feed[/url]
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The amount of solar radiation reaching the surface of the earth totals some 3.9 million exajoules a year.

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