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#76 2007-10-21 14:11:00

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Re: Is the 'VSE' getting dimmer ?

Tom, this thread has drifted a long way from the topic of the VSE, please bring it back asap smile


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#77 2007-10-21 23:04:58

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Re: Is the 'VSE' getting dimmer ?

Tom, this thread has drifted a long way from the topic of the VSE, please bring it back asap smile

Its about assigning blame for who's fault it is that VSE is getting dimmer isn't it?

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#78 2007-10-21 23:25:59

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Re: Is the 'VSE' getting dimmer ?

Tom, this thread has drifted a long way from the topic of the VSE, please bring it back asap smile

Its about assigning blame for who's fault it is that VSE is getting dimmer isn't it?

The premise is questionable given that NASA is now reorientated towards reaching the goals of the Vision and the program is moving ahead faster and faster.


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#79 2007-10-29 10:37:02

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Re: Is the 'VSE' getting dimmer ?

NASA's plan to cut the Moon rover and other cuts have mostly been ordered to stop.

[url=http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/070416_business_monday.html]Lawmakers Rebuff NASA's Plan to Kill Robotic Lunar Lander
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Maybe the are going to forget the robotic one and move directly to a manned version

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/explo … cture.html

but lack of funding will become a serious problem for the VSE

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#80 2007-10-29 11:07:13

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Re: Is the 'VSE' getting dimmer ?

NASA has two robotic lunar missions in development, LRO and LRCROSS - both are on schedule for launch next year. The LPRP program has suffered from a lot of politics and its status is unclear. NASA is working with the UK on a an impactor mission. Yes, more funding would make more happen sooner.


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#81 2007-11-23 03:47:11

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Re: Is the 'VSE' getting dimmer ?

Looks bad...any time you want to go for that whole space Commonwealth thing we can have a thousand colonists on the Moon by 2020AD.

Funny how that date keeps slipping
Mars by 2037 ?
"In 2057, the centenary of the space era, "we should be celebrating 20 years of man on Mars," Griffin told an international astronautics congress in this southern Indian city where he outlined NASA's future goals. "

At the 58th International Aeronautical Congress (IAC-2007) NASA administrator Michael Griffin says “Our long-term game-plan is to put man on Mars by 2037

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#82 2007-12-08 19:59:09

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Re: Is the 'VSE' getting dimmer ?

http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?a … ef=rellink

With only seven months left before NASA moves forward with a program to develop the launch vehicle meant to send Americans back to the moon -- and, eventually, to Mars -- Congress' watchdog agency has expressed concerns about the program.
The Ares I program is a key element of NASA's $230 billion 20-year plan to implement President Bush's Vision for Space Exploration.

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#83 2007-12-09 04:45:49

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Re: Is the 'VSE' getting dimmer ?

That $230 billion number is an inflated GAO estimate, not a NASA planned cost.


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#84 2007-12-10 01:03:05

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Re: Is the 'VSE' getting dimmer ?

I'm not exactly thrilled about this:

Talk on extending shuttle past 2010

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#85 2007-12-10 09:58:19

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Re: Is the 'VSE' getting dimmer ?

I'm not exactly thrilled about this:

Talk on extending shuttle past 2010

If Congress fund it and take responsibility for the risk of continuing to fly, it's one solution. NASA have said it will cost about an extra $3 billion a year to keep Shuttle flying to provide crew access to ISS, so that will be about $12 billion more until Orion is ready. The minimum would be about two flights a year to provide crew access to ISS, that's an expensive ride.


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#86 2007-12-10 12:55:56

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Re: Is the 'VSE' getting dimmer ?

I'm not exactly thrilled about this:

Talk on extending shuttle past 2010

If Congress fund it and take responsibility for the risk of continuing to fly, it's one solution. NASA have said it will cost about an extra $3 billion a year to keep Shuttle flying to provide crew access to ISS, so that will be about $12 billion more until Orion is ready. The minimum would be about two flights a year to provide crew access to ISS, that's an expensive ride.

It would be, and I wouldn't suggest for them to fly anymore than that.  Hell if they fly the shuttle may as well bring the crew roster up to 4 if not six while it's running.

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#87 2007-12-17 10:13:35

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Re: Is the 'VSE' getting dimmer ?

Rep. Dave Weldon to Announce S.P.A.C.E. Act

We'll see what happens. Of course an announcement doesn't mean passage.


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#88 2007-12-17 10:29:11

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Re: Is the 'VSE' getting dimmer ?

Hell if they fly the shuttle may as well bring the crew roster up to 4 if not six while it's running.

ISS is scheduled to have six crew in about 16 months from now (Apr 2009), these extra flights would start after the retirement date in Sep 2010.


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#89 2007-12-17 23:48:05

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Re: Is the 'VSE' getting dimmer ?

U.S. urged to keep space shuttle flying past 2010

Now, if we plan on re certifying the Shuttles now, will it be easier.


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