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That is Griffins position. Cowing and his band of jerks are trying to kill that in favor of the lousy EELV nonsense.
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Bumping an old thread. Where is NASA's manned architecture now?
Since this thread was made flying on Mars, to scout on Mars by air has become a thing.
Heavy Lift has also arrived from NASA using the Space Launch System or SLS an American super heavy-lift expendable launch, by Aerojet Rocketdyne, Northrop Grumman, Boeing and United Launch Alliance, Musk and Space-X might come soon and the Chinese might also arrive.
Mars helicopter Ingenuity soars between Red Planet airfields on 46th flight
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/mar … 38840.html
4 flights in 10 days!
https://twitter.com/NASAJPL/status/1630989945186979840
Over the weekend, the MarsHelicopter completed Flight 46. Ingenuity traveled 1,461 ft or 445.3 m across the Martian surface for 135.86 seconds at a max. altitude of 40 ft (12 m).
First will be looking at samples back on Earth before any 'Architecture' or building is made will the the goal of achieving a sample return, it seems China may get there first for bragging rights but the NASA / European mission is more complex and will achieve more science.
China's two plans to return Mars samples, both require two launches of Long March 5 in 2028 and will return in July of 2031.
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/statu … 7961435137
The return orbiter will launch in November of 2028 in both cases. The lande r/ ascender will launch in Dec or May.
This is from a speech of Sun Zezhou
Some critics want an O'Neill spinnig station instead
LOFTID is an EDL demonstrator for large Mars surface payloads
https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/15 … 0229395456
Economics after landing?
https://twitter.com/DrPhiltill/status/1 … 8066247682
'when building a civilization on Mars, it is wrong to think that we should ship goods to/from to Mars only when the planets are aligned once every two years. That trajectory is the optimum to a *different* economic problem than starting a city on Mars.'
Heavy Lift
Teams at NASAMichoud “flipped” the engine section for the first crewed #Artemis mission from a vertical to a horizontal position in preparation for final integration to the SLS core stage.
https://twitter.com/NASA_SLS/status/1625273660662480896
For now NASA is look at Architecture on the Moon not Mars.
Last edited by Mars_B4_Moon (2023-03-09 09:02:08)
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