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#1 2007-10-28 20:38:11

mystic_knight
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Re: Is Earth the new Mars?

A idea sprung to me during the adverts of a TV program. (the ad was on global warming)

well in this advert they showed a graphical image of what the earth would look like if we could see the pollutants.


well this is what struck me
What if the Earth is slowly developing into a barren dead planet like Mars. What if Mars once had life and the same thing happened.

If this is true then it would possibly mean that history is repeating itself.

Post your views here. or email me.

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#2 2007-10-28 22:43:33

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Re: Is Earth the new Mars?

The real threat of climate change is not that the Earth will become a hot, barren desert. Its that it will disrupt the unusually (geologically) temperate climate the we have enjoyed over the the bulk of the history of human civilization. Whether this is our fault or not, or if we can even stop it either way is up for debate. Certainly there is much we can do to limit our contribution, but the Earth is more than capable of shouldering the load.

The inconvenient truth is that we may very well be on borrowed time.


"Yes, I was going to give this astronaut selection my best shot, I was determined when the NASA proctologist looked up my ass, he would see pipes so dazzling he would ask the nurse to get his sunglasses."
---Shuttle Astronaut Mike Mullane

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#3 2007-10-29 00:49:59

mystic_knight
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Re: Is Earth the new Mars?

it is very highly unlikely that climate change will happen in thousands of years.

i have read reports that calculate the tempeature change from the past three thousand years and according to those it only gets 1oc hotter every thousand years however that report does not account for the fact that global warming is happening a hell of a lot faster than it ever has.

it will most likely take hundreds of years not thousands.

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#4 2007-10-29 08:28:14

Tom Kalbfus
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Re: Is Earth the new Mars?

How quickly did the climate change when that KT Asteroid struck the  Gulf of Mexico 65 million years ago, the one that wiped out the Dinosaurs? I think mankind's presence has been considerably less disasterous than that.

How about when the Planet Thea impacted with the Earth and created the Moon. I think the climate change the Earth experienced then was considerably greater than the climate change now, and it occured much faster than it is now.

You see we're a part of Earth's ecology, it created us. Earth has created other creatures before and each time it has had disruptive effects on the ecology. The creation of humanity and the effects on the climate is still playing itself out. A warmer Earth is a more habitable Earth, don't believe me, try living in Antarctica sometime. Since I was in grade school I was taught that the Age of the Dinosaurs was a warmer lusher environment when the World had no ice caps and North America was dominated by a great inland sea - that doesn't sound like hotter and drier to me. I think the left-wing global environmentalists like to emphasize only the negative effects of global warming and deemphisize the positive results, its as if they want us to take certain action to prevent it from happening, but I think the picture they are presenting is far from balanced. They don't want us to think about "tropical breezes and palm trees" they want us only to think about desertification.

I don't think the water is going anywhere if the Earth warms up, I think more of it will be liquid and less of it will be ice, I don't view it necessarily as a bad thing, and I don't think water will refuse to evaporate off the oceans or when it does so, only to form hyper-hurricanes and so forth. I think those who want to portray global warming as bad have an agenda to get us to accept more government regulation and higher taxes. I think the costs of moving to a higher elevation to avoid rising sea levels may be less that doing something drastic to curtail greenhouse gas emisions. I don't think the Global Environmentalists are being honest or truthful in presenting the entire picture about what a warmer climate will bring. And I do think fossil fuels will eventually become obsolete as various forms of nuclear energy due to E=mc^2 tend to be more energetic.

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#5 2007-10-29 08:37:32

Tom Kalbfus
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Re: Is Earth the new Mars?

A idea sprung to me during the adverts of a TV program. (the ad was on global warming)

well in this advert they showed a graphical image of what the earth would look like if we could see the pollutants.


well this is what struck me
What if the Earth is slowly developing into a barren dead planet like Mars. What if Mars once had life and the same thing happened.

If this is true then it would possibly mean that history is repeating itself.

Post your views here. or email me.

I'm Sorry, I didn't realize that Mars is a "hot house planet"!

If you ask me, I'd say Mars could use some global warming, the problem is it hasn't got enough of it. I also think its a long way to Venus. Venus is a lot hotter and drier than Earth and it doesn't resemble Mars.

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