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louis

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GrowMars

Have people heard about these proposals...a rather interesting combination of ideas, sounding in part a bit like Void's inverted cylinder and my artificial gorges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FSC02nUPZ4

Key is the creation of bio plastics, which can then be formed into bricks for construction.

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SpaceNut

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Re: GrowMars

Plastic pollution from traditional, petroleum-based plastic has become a global problem for earth but for other places we need the plants to create the building blocks to make oils...Growing crops to make bioplastics comes with the usual environmental impacts of intensive agriculture, including greenhouse emissions from the petroleum needed to fuel farm machinery, and water pollution caused by runoff from land where fertilizers are used in industrial quantities.

https://www.growplastics.com/

Growing Plastics That's what we do. We create sandwich panel structures in bioplastics. This engineered structure allows us to use 30-50% less material than comparable technologies. The bioplastics we use generate 60% less CO2 during production than the plastics often used to make red party cups (GPPS).

https://bioplasticsnews.com/2019/08/08/ … row-by-20/

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-rele … -2025.html

https://www.mobius.co/

At mobius, we believe that There’s Wonder in Waste. We’re developing a platform of naturally biodegradable and compostable plastics made from lignin, a waste product of the paper and biofuel industry, for applications in agriculture, horticulture, food service packaging, and beyond.

https://www.agro-chemistry.com/news/mar … wing-fast/

PLA, starch blends, cellulose, and other bioplastics achieve significantly higher growth rates than conventional standard plastics made of fossil oils.

The global bioplastics production capacity is set to increase from around 2.05 million tonnes in 2017 to approximately 2.44 million tonnes in 2022. Innovative biopolymers such as PLA (polylactic acid) and PHAs (polyhydroxyalkanoates) are the main drivers of this growth in the field of bio-based, biodegradable plastics.

https://www.bioplasticsmagazine.com/en/ … uccess.php

Bioplastics: a growing success Currently, bioplastics represent about one percent of the about 320 million tonnes of plastic produced annually. But as demand is rising and with more sophisticated biopolymers, applications, and products emerging, the market is continuously growing.

https://www.mordorintelligence.com/indu … ics-market

The usage of bioplastics is the highest in the packaging sector, which is increasing due to the growing environmental concerns across the world; The global packaging industry is growing across the world. Asia-Pacific has the largest manufacturing capacity of bioplastics, with around 45% of the global capacity.

One must assume that certain plants are better than others for this purpose and that does not mean we will be making use of an edible crop...

Void

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Re: GrowMars

Ha Ha,

It is probably fantasy, but I recall recommending something like that article for Earth, as a solution to CO2 build up.

Not very long after, the echo-freaks started obsessing about "PLASTICS" in the environment.  Probably co-incidences, but the anti-humanists who I believe Dr. Zubrin has a beef with, seem to need a unsolvable crisis at all times.  And their solutions quite often require social regulations, and then a jobs program for alpha types who inhabit ivory towers.  From environmental activist to highly paid bureaucracy.

There are really 4 quadrants.  Some have community with individuality.  Some have hierarchy with lots of individuality anyway.

The other two generate people like Hitler and Stalin.  Not types we want in this country unless we can employ them as dog catchers, and garbage collectors.  (Not humans as garbage either).  I think I see a pattern where these trouble makers come more from areas where more ancient civilization existed.  Can we name someone from the Atlantic coast of Europe?  Cromwell perhaps.  Some of the kings, and religious authorities.   But much lesser entities than Napoleon, Hitler, and Stalin.  (Napoleon named, because the Mediterranean may be a pathway where the old world types get into more western Europe easier).  So, that is my claim, my suspicion.  You are not required to credit it.

But still I think it is a crime to not do what we can for the Oceans especially.  But that mostly involves garbage from ships and perhaps the two coasts, and maybe the Mississippi drainage system.

My idea was to be done in the great basin, so plastic would not go to the oceans from there except by the wind.  That should be controllable.

For Mars, I am not at all sure that with all the other hostile aspects of the planet, we should be overly concerned.

Sorry I am so much trouble for you Spacenut, but those are my current beliefs.

Done

Last edited by Void (2020-06-15 05:38:30)

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SpaceNut

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Re: GrowMars

I think we have been saying want not for recovering of waste and converting to a storable fuel in many a topic.
We have also talked about reuse of plastic waste as well for other uses.

https://www.designboom.com/design/silic … 6-15-2020/

india-based company, rhino machines has launched the ‘silica plastic block’ – a sustainable building brick made from recycling foundry dust/ sand waste (80%) and mixed plastic waste (20%). the ‘silica-plastic block’ or SPB attempts to confront the massive dust waste and overall pollution production in india which has created a severe environmental hazard.