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#1526 2021-08-25 18:06:15

tahanson43206
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Re: Housekeeping

For kbd512 re #1525

Thanks for the update.

Best wishes for success with the new injectors for the Charger.

The script you wrote seems to have worked reliably over the range you chose previously.

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#1527 2021-08-25 18:31:04

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Re: Housekeeping

tahanson43206,

Give me a range of Test IDs you'd like taken care of tonight, or by default I'll run the script over the next 1,000 Test IDs to make up for lost time.

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#1528 2021-08-25 21:34:56

tahanson43206
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Re: Housekeeping

For kbd512 re #1527

SpaceNut is our client in this situation .... I am in a place to admire your handiwork!

For SpaceNut ... WBA completed a run to 15,600 this evening.  The Internet was smooth as glass!

Text direct from Clipboard in Step: 34 ojijigdanep

Completed Sequence for ID: 15600

Total Command Lines found: 112
Total input Lines in script: 341
  Total input Lines in data: 1730

  Number of ID's processed: 100

Starting Number: 15501

Last Number of Run: 15600

Summary for Web Automation Report for 08-25-2021 at 23:31:26
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:01:29
12 Date Exceptions were recorded.

Total time of Processing: 02:30:41

Total time Program was Active: 02:45:53

Update at 9:05 next day local time:

Verify Users Table run will start shortly.

Update at 10:19 there were several usernames not found in the Users table:

Missing: oraks3, oroxozhoqunon, oscarco2, Osvaldorom

These names will be removed from the list of candidates with zero posts.

Verify Bans table starts now ...

The verify Bans script turned up three usernames from the Users table that SpaceNut has chosen to keep for another day.

The first 100 usernames confirmed as in the Bans table will be given to WBA for tonight's run to 15,700.

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#1529 2021-08-26 14:39:10

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Re: Housekeeping

For RobertDyck re updates in Large Ship topic ...

Thanks for taking the time to write about your experiences attempting to assist the United States.

I am disappointed to learn of the mind set of at least one individual in the United States who blocked your offer to help.

I am disappointed but not surprised. 

***
It is good to learn that you do have update capability to the Mars Society web site.

It is ** not ** necessary that anyone else have update privileges.  All that's needed is for you to find the inspiration to publish the specifications for a line of space craft that will adhere to whatever you decide is best.

I'm looking for a standard to become established.  Standards are social conventions.  They rarely are based upon the physics of the Universe, but in your case they ** would ** be.  The meter started out as an attempt to establish a standard based upon the Universe, and the precision of the standard has increased over time, but it is my understanding the actual standard is as close to the original as modern science can get.

Your specifications for basic features of the Large Ship have come across to me as compelling.  They ** should ** stand up well to competitive ideas and suggestions, but you need to be ** out there ** first and loudest!

As far as as protecting your IP ... my advice is a heartfelt ** forget it ** !!! The idea is to become the goto expert in a field, so that giant corporations find it cheaper to hire your services than to develop expertise in house.

If you insist on hiding your IP, then (of course) no one will know about it, so it will never get used.

When someone else does what ever it is, you can complain they stole your idea, but if you never published it, you won't have much of an argument.

Please note the example of Elon Musk ... he's developed (or rather, he's led teams that developed) vast amounts of IP, but it is my understanding he has released all of it for public use.  That eliminates the entire cost item of lawyers to deal with IP.  His example is to simply become so good at developing and using your IP, everyone else is forever playing catch up.

Right now, you have the Mars G spacecraft field to yourself, but you need to get going with publishing your specifications as far and as wide as is possible.

The upcoming Mars Convention is an opportunity.

You need to have your specifications published in an easy-to-find reliable location, and broadcast the location far and wide.

There is an opportunity to "sponsor" the convention.  You can do that, and I would imagine you might be able to negotiate a $1 (US) investment, if you ask.

What you ** want ** (it seems to me) is wide adoption of your standard, and such recognition as you can secure by being first and loudest.

Above all, please do NOT mention your hare-brained idea of flying through the atmosphere of Mars with a ship full of passengers.  This will immediately brand you as not serious or worse.

Good luck!

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#1530 2021-08-26 18:09:39

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Re: Housekeeping

kbd512 wrote:

tahanson43206,

Give me a range of Test IDs you'd like taken care of tonight, or by default I'll run the script over the next 1,000 Test IDs to make up for lost time.

There is no problem as its up to you for how much time or effort that you want to put in.
The scripts are working fine from what I have seen.

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#1531 2021-08-26 20:23:14

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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re ID Recovery ...

WBA had another flawless run on glassy Internet seas ...

Text direct from Clipboard in Step: 34 otisavaqu

Completed Sequence for ID: 15700

Total Command Lines found: 112
Total input Lines in script: 341
  Total input Lines in data: 1623
 
  Number of ID's processed: 100

Starting Number: 15601

Last Number of Run: 15700

Summary for Web Automation Report for 08-26-2021 at 22:20:32
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:01:29
14 Date Exceptions were recorded.

Total time of Processing: 02:30:45

Total time Program was Active: 02:33:59

Verify runs will be scheduled tomorrow.

Update at 10:33 ... All 120 usernames with Zero Posts were found in the Users table

The Bans check will start shortly ...

Update at 15:33

SpaceNut has saved one of the 120 candidates to live another day ...

100 of the remaining 119 found in the Bans table will be updated this evening.

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#1532 2021-08-27 15:20:39

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Re: Housekeeping

This is for SpaceNut ....

In the past, (and not all that long ago) you provided a hint that Google can be used to search inside a web site ...

I didn't follow up at the time, but I ** did ** make a mental note, and that note popped up just now ...

I am slowed down (at present) when trying to update the Plotmaster, because I have to export the text to a third party tool (an editor) to find text.  The method is cumbersome at best.  I'm wondering if Google can look inside a specific post in a web site.  That may be too much to ask, but I thought I'd let you know about the problem.

In the present case, I'd like to find out what's been stored in the Plotmaster for solar dish technology.  I just found a section in "Beyond Oil" that covers the subject in some detail.  I'm constantly impressed by the depth of knowledge accumulated by the authors, and by their skill in presenting that knowledge in the text.

Because of Louis' fascination with solar power, I've become more sensitized to the potential of the technology involved than I would otherwise be.

This next item is a branch from solar dishes, but since this is Housekeeping, it can start here and then relocate as appropriate ....

Solar dishes appear (as nearly as I can tell) to be an application of parabolic mirror physics.  Manufacture of a high precision parabolic mirror on Earth is (apparently) a non-trivial exercise.  An exception to manufacture of a hard parabolic surface is to rotate a pool of mercury, and (I gather) there is at least one observatory on Earth that uses this technique.  However, such a mirror is (of course) limited to viewing the sky immediately overhead, and no tracking is possible.

The idea I'm considering is to use 3D printing to make very precise parabolic shapes.

** How ** precise such a shape might be is not clear.  The familiar plastic extrusion 3D printer familiar to most readers of this forum is NOT what I think might be possible.

The goal would be to direct photons from Sol onto a focal point on Mars in sufficient volume to melt materials placed there.

Update at 17:22 .... consider an LED TV or computer monitor .... The light generating surface of the device (appears to me to be) the top of a column of atoms dedicated to the task of producing a desired shade of light at a desired intensity and addressable by location on the screen by external hardware driven by software that can be configured to achieve desired display results.

Now consider a similar flat plane containing columns of atoms that do not emit light, but instead reflect light (photons) at an angle specified by software.

This concept might allow simulation of a parabola by a flat surface.

If this is possible, then (presumably) the cost of manufacture of reflecting devices for solar heating applications might be reduced, both on Mars, and elsewhere in the Solar System.

Since this idea may qualify as Intellectual Property, I hereby release it to all, in hopes it may swiftly move from idea to commercial reality.

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#1533 2021-08-27 16:23:41

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The registry contains some solar but the issue for what we are terming is the creation of energy from the sun...

https://www.electronicshub.org/solar-energy-facts

Types of Solar Energy:
* Solar Thermal Energy – In this system of energy generation solar thermal collectors are used to collect the heat energy and this collected energy can be utilized to heat water or warm up houses during winters.
* Solar Photovoltaic Power – Photovoltaic power is employed to transform the rays of sun into electricity by making use of solar panels. The energy produced is dependent on the amount of sun rays solar panel is receiving.
* Passive Solar Energy – Passive solar energy is basically the heating of buildings or home with the help of architectural design.

The Sun is not going anywhere nor is it going to run, it’s the only free & infinite energy source. So let’s open our minds & think about more & more ideas to use this infinite source effectively & optimize the use of other finite earth resources. So plan a new way to bring your own sun home.

The last is reflective concentrating....

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#1534 2021-08-27 21:46:34

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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re ID recovery ...

WBA had another flawless run this evening.

Text direct from Clipboard in Step: 34 pattijq4

Completed Sequence for ID: 15800

Total Command Lines found: 112
Total input Lines in script: 341
  Total input Lines in data: 1522
 
  Number of ID's processed: 100

Starting Number: 15701

Last Number of Run: 15800

Summary for Web Automation Report for 08-27-2021 at 23:38:51
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:01:29
10 Date Exceptions were recorded.

Total time of Processing: 02:30:45

Total time Program was Active: 02:55:38

***
Thanks for thinking about My Hacienda and several kinds of Solar Power.

Reminder: I asked recently if there is a way to ask Google to search inside a post.  There may not be.  Google can do a lot, but that may be asking too much.

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#1535 2021-08-28 09:28:46

tahanson43206
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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re ID recovery ...

The Verify in Users Table run showed the next 120 candidates are present.

The Bans Verify run will start shortly ...

Update at 12:44 ... All 120 candidates were found in the Bans table.

The first 100 of these will be turned over to WBA this evening, for a dash to 15,900.

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#1536 2021-08-28 11:56:12

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Re: Housekeeping

Serviceabj, stopped by and is now banned ready to convert.


Have completed the letter S zero post banning's as a closing of the door.


Next will be clearing those ghost posts when I get a few minutes to reset them to zero.

The final wave will be to lock inactive accounts.

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#1537 2021-08-28 12:30:57

tahanson43206
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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re #1536

Congratulations on catching that little rascal ** live ** !!!

Good to see your progress through the "s" group!  WBA is still working on the "O" group but will get there soon enough.

***
I seem to have found a topic from 2003 that needs repair:

why scientists need to worry about society issues

I posted about a 2020 book, and now can't read the post.

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#1538 2021-08-28 17:00:48

SpaceNut
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Re: Housekeeping

All 40 posts have been corrected in the topic which showed the conversion software artifacts.

most are seen as text of the old commands of color, bold, italics ect with the quote command doing the shifting and more depending on how many appear on a post and page. Ignore the * as thats needed so as to post the commands

The issues are with how the BBC commands are now seen in which moderators can edit all posts excluding the admin's

for the color open and close *[*color=#000000:post_uid0]* *[*/color:post_uid0]* between the * just remove them from the post using the edit.

For the quote close command *[/quote:post_uid0]* the :post_uid0 needs to be removed within the command where the 0 may be other numbers. These were part of the ranking structure data that is no longer used.

For the italic command open and close *[i:post_uid0]* *[/i:post_uid0]* remove the :post_uid0 as with the quote

For the bold open and close *(b:post_uid0]* *[/b:post_uid0]* remove the :post_uid0 as with the quote

These are the common but there are more...

Edit:

To get to the edit
highlight a word in the post and use the tab key to move the window over so that the edit shows.

When a search engine does not turn up a topic such as AI (as its to short to process) or artificial Intelligence one can go to the user topic post for a user id and search for whom might have put it into a topic such as I just did for 5 which we already had for discusion....

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#1539 2021-08-28 17:47:09

tahanson43206
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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re #1538

Thanks for the tips .... It should be possible to make those repairs if the topic is accessible.

I'll set a marker now and come back to it.  Some of those repairs could be automated safely.

SearchTerm:Repair tips per SpaceNut old topics

I'll be starting WBA shortly ...  a bit early but hopefully it won't be a problem for anyone.

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#1540 2021-08-29 00:40:24

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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re ID Recovery....

WBA had a flawless run last night ... Jupiter is in opposition and is shining brightly East of Saturn.

Text direct from Clipboard in Step: 34 phoebean3

Completed Sequence for ID: 15900

Total Command Lines found: 112
Total input Lines in script: 341
  Total input Lines in data: 1422
 
  Number of ID's processed: 100

Starting Number: 15801

Last Number of Run: 15900

Summary for Web Automation Report for 08-29-2021 at 02:30:35
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:01:30
5 Date Exceptions were recorded.

Total time of Processing: 02:31:36

Total time Program was Active: 06:40:11

Verify scripts for tonight's dash to 16,000 will be scheduled for after sunrise locally.

Update at 10:01 All 120 usernames submitted for today's run were found in the Users table.

The Bans table check is in progress now...

Update at Noon+ local time ... all 120 candidates were found in the Bans table.

The first 100 will be turned over to WBA for tonight's Round Number run to 16,000.

WBA completed a smooth run this evening...

Text direct from Clipboard in Step: 34 rachellemo11

Completed Sequence for ID: 16000

Total Command Lines found: 112
Total input Lines in script: 341
  Total input Lines in data: 1322
 
  Number of ID's processed: 100

Starting Number: 15901

Last Number of Run: 16000

Summary for Web Automation Report for 08-29-2021 at 22:59:35
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:01:29
12 Date Exceptions were recorded.

Total time of Processing: 02:30:46

Total time Program was Active: 03:00:12

Update at 10:07 local time ... Verify of 120 candidate usernames completed - all are still in the users table.

Bans check will start now...
Update at 11:20 local time ... the Bans check passed all 120 candidates.
The first 100 of these will be turned over to WBA for tonight's climb to 16,100.
We still have 12 days of (hopefully) smooth sailing ahead, before the current list of candidates is exhausted.

Update at 23:24 local time ...

Text direct from Clipboard in Step: 34 RebProf

Completed Sequence for ID: 16100

Total Command Lines found: 112
Total input Lines in script: 341
  Total input Lines in data: 1222
 
  Number of ID's processed: 100

Starting Number: 16001

Last Number of Run: 16100

Summary for Web Automation Report for 08-30-2021 at 23:25:54
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:01:29
11 Date Exceptions were recorded.

Total time of Processing: 02:29:16

Total time Program was Active: 02:40:56

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#1541 2021-08-29 07:56:34

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This is for SpaceNut ...

Dr. Johnson has agreed to support an initiative to put a Landing Site Probe on Mars, with launch September of 2022.

This is almost entirely a social challenge.  All the technology needed exists.

As Senior Administrator for this forum, you have a critical role to play.  You won't have to do much, but the specific actions for which you are responsible can be carried out by no one else.

Before I suggest the first action you might take, I'd like to be sure you are in agreement with the initiative.

Do you have questions you need answered before we put ourselves forward?

Please review the excerpt from GW Johnson's email this morning, posted in Recruiting.

*** Update at 15:52 local time ...

Dr. Johnson sent two files which I am ready to forward to Mr. Burk.

Please advise Mr. Burk of our initiative, and to invite him to contact Newmarsmember at gmail.com, so I can forward the files.

These are needed as enclosures for a request for support by Dr. Zubrin.

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#1542 2021-08-30 20:21:16

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Re: Housekeeping

Apologies for not being available lately, but I'm currently stuck in a home and automotive repair nightmare.

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#1543 2021-08-30 21:24:26

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Re: Housekeeping

For kbd512 re #1542

Thanks for checking in!  Best wishes for resolution of all those challenges sooner rather than later, and with success if possible.

At least (I hope) it's not a hurricane you're dealing with, but it might feel like it.

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#1544 2021-08-31 07:18:48

tahanson43206
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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re ID Recovery ...

This post is reserved for notes on today's run from 16,200 to 16,300

Verify scripts will start shortly ...

Update at 10:30 local time ...

119 of the 120 usernames were found in the Users table.

One (rezavia) was reported as missing, but it was found to be present.

This event tells me that the Verify Script can fail, but it does so in a way that allows for manual checking.

All 120 usernames will now be given to the Bans Table check script ...

Update at Noon local time ... all 120 usernames tested are in the Bans table.

The first 100 will be turned over to WBA for tonight's run to 16,300.

Update next day at 6:37 local time .... WBA hit heavy seas on the Internet last night.

Only 33 ID's were completed.  Restarting ...

***
Thanks for finishing the remake of TestID10900
***

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#1545 2021-08-31 17:50:54

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Re: Housekeeping

For kbd512

I've used TestID10900 to set up FriendOfQuark1

Tonight, I'll recreate TestID10900, so when you get around to working on the Bans again (after home and car are taken care of) please start at TestID10900.

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#1546 2021-08-31 19:54:09

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Re: Housekeeping

ID is ready for use TestID10900
communications have begun for project details for future release as GW  directs.
files have been forwarded but I am sure there is more still yet to do....

Kbd512, I do hope that you can come out of the car issues soon as I have been without multiple times for periods of a week to months and still was able to get to work each day with a journey of 30 plus one way miles rain or shine. So I know what you are going through all to well.

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#1547 2021-09-01 13:19:15

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Re: Housekeeping

For SpaceNut re ID recovery ...

There's a gap between 16100 and 16200 ...  I gave WBA the wrong starting number last night.

I'll correct that this evening:

Text direct from Clipboard in Step: 34 RichardNeini

Completed Sequence for ID: 16300
 
Total Command Lines found: 112
Total input Lines in script: 341
  Total input Lines in data: 1088
 
  Number of ID's processed: 67

Starting Number: 16234

Last Number of Run: 16300

Summary for Web Automation Report for 09-01-2021 at 15:15:41
Average time of Loop from Main form: 00:01:29
6 Date Exceptions were recorded.

Total time of Processing: 01:41:00

Total time Program was Active: 08:33:01

Update at 16:36 local time .... all 120 candidates with Zero Posts are still in the Users table.
Bans check will start shortly ...
Bans check showed all candidates are in the Bans table
Update to fill in the gap between 16100 and 16200 will start now ...

Update at 20:35 local time ... the Fill-in-Gap run completed without a hitch.

ID's are processed and ready for kbd512 through 16300.

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#1548 2021-09-01 15:06:10

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Re: Housekeeping

From NewMars Portal ...

Dr. Johnson requests that we (SpaceNut and RobertDyck) study the proposed letter to Dr. Zubrin.

Please confirm that you want me to use the email addresses you have on file!

***
For kbd512 ....

I am opening a pathway for you to communicate with us .... Your position calls for you to be involved, but you were not included in the list of support team members by GW Johnson.

It is entirely possible that was an oversight, or it could be just saving your talents for later.

In my role as coordinator for fast moving developments, I want to hear from you. 

The immediate task is to review the draft documents prepared by GW Johnson.

(th)


Recruiting High Value members for NewMars.com/forums, in association with the Mars Society

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#1549 2021-09-01 16:05:20

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Re: Housekeeping

Oh. Ok, send it to me.

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#1550 2021-09-01 17:20:38

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Re: Housekeeping

For RobertDyck re #1549

Thanks for your confirmation.

Timing is tomorrow.  I've planned to visit NewMarsMember around 10 AM local time.

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